Politico: Dems lose a chunk of their drug bill...

[allegorical oracle]

Senate Parliamentarian ruled that 60 votes would be needed to pass the provision that provided penalties to drugmakers who raised prescription prices higher than inflation. Affects 'scrips from private insurors and Medicare.

(Who said Senate majority leaders makes the rules?)

(2 hours ago)

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/dems-lose-key-piece-of-health-agenda-in-spending-bill/ar-AA10nwSG?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=421681d31c134753bc9d798815582212

[onecaliberal]

1. Fuck that. Do it anyway.

[Phoenix61]

4. My thought exactly. There's absolutely no reason not to.

Call is pay back for the bs the repukes pulled putting Barrett on the USSC weeks before the election.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

11. Two wrongs make a right?

Interesting political philosophy there.

[Phoenix61]

12. Do you think they would let the parliamentarian stop

them from passing legislation? I’m not saying fire her which is what the repubs did. “In 2001, Trent Lott fired Robert Dove, the Senate parliamentarian, after Dove refused to allow Republican spending measures under the Byrd Rule.” https://www.governing.com/context/the-history-of-congressional-parliamentarians-and-why-they-matter

[AZSkiffyGeek]

13. I believe that we should follow the rules we set out

And I think it’s hypocrisy to criticize Republicans for doing it if we do it when convenient.

[Phoenix61]

15. I'm tired of treating them like a political party that has

any interest in governing. The are obstructionists. They don’t want to participate in the process fine. We’ll do it without them. The parliamentarian is an advisory position. I think a polite, thank you for you opinion, then pass what we want. What we have been doing is rewarding them for bad behavior. It’s like giving a two year old a cookie every time they tantrum then whining that they are always throwing tantrums.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

18. So you want authoritarians

Who ignore rules and do what you want. Got it.

[Phoenix61]

21. If you don't understand the difference there's nothing I

can do about that.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

23. The only difference is that Dems are in power

Was Lott right to fire the Parliamentarian to force his bill through? If not, why should Dems do it.

[Phoenix61]

24. Like I said, if you don't understand the difference there's

nothing I can say that will help you to.

[Deminpenn]

26. +1000

Well said, especially the point about the parlimentarian being an advisory position. The only drawback might be if one of more Dem senators felt ignoring the parlimentarian would be against the "traditions" of the Senate.

[AZProgressive]

17. Have the VP overrule the Parliamentarian

It is rare but it is in the rules.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

19. Ah you want a leader like Trent Lott

Excellent role model there.

[AZProgressive]

20. I voted for Bernie in the primary

Who campaigned on picking a VP to overrule the parliamentarian to give you an idea of who my political role models are.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

22. Bernie had firing the Senate parliamentarian

As a campaign point?

[kcr]

25. You are awfully aggressive in your opposition

I mean, if you insist, but this isn't a two wrongs don't make a right situation. This is a fight or roll over and die situation. If that's okay with you, you can speak for yourself and be comforted in the fact that at least you stuck to your principles while the world burns. But know that eventually you will be moved out of the way.

[triron]

7. Agreed.

[dalton99a]

2. Who elected this person supreme ruler?

[former9thward]

5. The Senate.

She was appointed by Majority Leader Harry Reid.

[Irish_Dem]

3. Saves taxpayer money and helps people, but cuts into corporate profit.

Had to go.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

10. Doesn't fall under reconciliation so it had to go

Fixed it for you.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

6. Damn it

[AZSkiffyGeek]

8. Cue everyone who complained about Turtle ignoring rules

To start screaming for Dems to do the same.

[duckworth969]

9. Here we go...

[jalan48]

14. Another check on Democracy like the Electoral College, filibuster and a Senate that is not

based on the population.

[budkin]

16. No

Fuck the “parliamentarian.”

[LetMyPeopleVote]

27. I am glad that the Senate Democrats tried for this provision