How could Bernie, The Chairman of the Budget Committee not know?

[sheshe2]

The Chairman of The Budget Committee had no clue what his committee was doing.

How can a Chairman not know what his team was working on? The team came up with rules to help all Americans with the IRA. The most progressive agenda: Senate passes Democrats’ sweeping health care and climate bill

The Senate on Sunday afternoon passed Democrats’ $750 billion health care, tax and climate bill, in a significant victory for President Joe Biden and his party.

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The sweeping bill – named the Inflation Reduction Act – would represent the largest climate investment in US history and make major changes to health policy by giving Medicare the power for the first time to negotiate the prices of certain prescription drugs and extending expiring health care subsidies for three years. The legislation would reduce the deficit, be paid for through new taxes – including a 15% minimum tax on large corporations and a 1% tax on stock buybacks – and boost the Internal Revenue Service’s ability to collect.

It would raise over $700 billion in government revenue over 10 years and spend over $430 billion to reduce carbon emissions and extend subsidies for health insurance under the Affordable Care Act and use the rest of the new revenue to reduce the deficit.


Senate Democrats, with a narrow 50-seat majority, stayed unified to pass the legislation, using a special, filibuster-proof process to approve the measure without Republican votes. Final passage came after a marathon series of contentious amendment votes known as a “vote-a-rama” that stretched nearly 16 hours from late Saturday night until Sunday afternoon.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/07/politics/senate-democrats-climate-health-care-bill-vote/index.html

Thank you all for your hard work and determination to protect us and give us some hope for the future.

[sheshe2]

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Lol~

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[sheshe2]

5. You are still here?

[Rhiannon12866]

7. Not anymore...

[sheshe2]

38. Thank you 😊

[niyad]

35. Darn! Did I just miss another troll?

[sheshe2]

39. They were spamming 🤪

[niyad]

44. And were dispatched in short order! Blink, and we miss all the fun!

[sheshe2]

45. :)

[SunSeeker]

2. K & R

[sheshe2]

4. Thank you, SunSeeker.

[Cha]

6. It's Pres Biden's BFD along with All

the Dems who made it happen and I Profoundly Thank Them!

He didn't know?

[Hortensis]

26. :) +1000 to profoundly thanking those who made this happen.

[betsuni]

8. Heh.

[grantcart]

9. You mean the "so called Democrat?" (Sanders called it the "so called inflation and

Health Care and Climate. . .)

[Johnny2X2X]

14. News agencies already parroting Bernie

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/inflation-reduction-act-whats-in-the-now-sinema-approved-bill-aimed-at-lowering-costs-for-americans-205141884.html

"The so-called IRA — which still has plenty of hurdles to overcome before it becomes law — is a far cry from some early Democratic ambitions..."

I've defended Bernie a lot on DU, I've been a fan of his ever since he started coming on Thom Hartman's radio show every Friday when he was in the House, but he's just missing the point now. Yes, Bernie, more needs to be done to help the middle class, maybe if we hold both houses and get the Senate to 52-48 at least that can be done. But there's a time and a place for everything and the floor of the Senate Saturday wasn't the time and place to point out every flaw of the bill you intend to support. Bernie has become this super hero in his own mind, he thinks he's the only one in his party fighting for working people and he wants to make sure everyone knows that at all times. So he made it about him by crapping on the bill (that he intended to support). I'm going to view him differently now, really think he's turned the page somehow and is less about really helping and more about standing himself up as a super hero.

I was sickened to check Facebook Saturday and hear from several Bernie supporters there about how, "See, this is why you can't trust Biden and the Dems, they're the same as Republicans..." "I'll never vote for another Democrat again." "I feel so betrayed by Biden." That's the effect Bernie had, and I believe he knew it.

[grantcart]

18. Best he could do was say it was a "baby" step

[Nixie]

23. +++++++++++++++

++++++++++

[Cha]

47. Pres Biden & VP Harris are Actually Helping to SAVE OUR

DEMOCRACY!

Link to tweet

[shrike3]

29. Those people are hopeless.

Everything is the Democrats' fault.

[Cha]

46. I never was.. even less now.

Focus!
Please Fight to Save Our Democracy💙 in 2022 & 2024!

[sheshe2]

40. Yep 🙂

[calimary]

10. He didn't know? How'd that happen?

What am I missing?

[867-5309.]

11. I'm not following

Where does the article say Bernie didn't know?

[Emile]

13. +1

[Hortensis]

17. Bernie Sanders is not mentioned in articles about the bill itself, but leads

mention along with the Republicans in articles criticizing and opposing.

Don't know what the OP refers to, but just grab a statement and find something. This is Bernie Sanders' (Budget Committee Chair!) own statement prepared for the press to copy. He distances himself from what "may be" accomplished with passage of this bill, but "understands" it may be coming to the floor. (Not his fault if it does?) That's from the first sentence. The lead's the theme, but I'd check out more recent statements for more up-to-date dissociations.

PREPARED REMARKS: Sanders Says Inflation Reduction Act Doesn’t Meet Needs of the American People
August 3, 2022
WASHINGTON, Aug. 3 – Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) Wednesday on the floor of the U.S. Senate gave remarks on the Inflation Reduction Act, calling on his colleagues to study the bill thoroughly and to come up with amendments and suggestions as to how to improve it in order to meet the needs of the American people.

Sanders’ remarks, as prepared for delivery, are below and can be watched here.

M. President: My understanding is that the so-called “Inflation Reduction Act” may be coming to the floor in the coming days. ...

https://www.sanders.senate.gov/press-releases/prepared-remarks-sanders-says-inflation-reduction-act-doesnt-meet-needs-of-the-american-people/

[867-5309.]

20. Eh, that's a stretch

At that point the exact date may not have been known so this was just an expedient description.

He didn't oppose the bill, though he criticized it. Of course, his concerns were far different than those of the GOP. The Democrats could not have passed this without him.

[Hortensis]

33. That last is true. In fact, after months of accelerating public criticism,

he virtually always votes for whatever the Democratic senators have prepared, then immediately returns to bitter criticism. SOP. Strange model, but it gets him reelected while getting Democratic legislation passed for 30 years now.

It also tends to dissuade people who believe him from voting for Democrats, but, hey, if not him, they'd be believing someone else.

Maybe someday we'll all look back at him nostalgically, 2016 and its horrific sequelae safely in the past and in the history books. I could support those who wanted to rename those two post offices for him as a memorial.

Itm, an appreciation note to Senator Sanders for being among those who wanted more in this bill, much more, rather than less. All of us too.

[lapucelle]

30. Isn't that common knowledge at this point? Didn't Senator Sanders call it a "secret deal"?

“By Monday [July 18] [Schumer and Manchin] ran into each other again. [Manchin] said, ‘Are you still upset?’ [Schumer] said, ‘I’m very discouraged.’ I said, ‘Well, you shouldn’t be. Something positive could be done if we all want to work rationally,’” Manchin said, recounting the key moment.

He said their staffs started working together in earnest the next day, July 19. Manchin said his staff and Schumer’s staff picked up the things they were working on before and “started restructuring that.”

They finally hashed out a deal on Tuesday evening, recognizing they had to announce the package on Wednesday if it had any chance of passing before the scheduled start of a lengthy summer recess on Aug. 6.

“By Tuesday night [July 26] , everyone — there wasn’t that many of us —those of us who might have had some disagreements, finally come to agreement,” he said. “We had the text pretty much lined up in that arena. That’s why the text was finished on Wednesday. Wednesday morning it was confirmed that it was a go.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3578689-inside-the-secret-manchin-schumer-deal-dems-shocked-gop-feels-betrayed/

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On August 2, Senator Sanders tweeted this:

Link to tweet

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Then on Wednesday, August 3, Senator Sanders opened with this in his prepared remarks:

M. President: My understanding is that the so-called “Inflation Reduction Act” may be coming to the floor in the coming days.

https://www.sanders.senate.gov/press-releases/prepared-remarks-sanders-says-inflation-reduction-act-doesnt-meet-needs-of-the-american-people/

[867-5309.]

34. Sounds like he was referring to Schumer and Manchin's agreement

They and perhaps a few others knew what it contained while Bernie and most Democratic senators weren't involved since their votes were considered in the bag. In the end, Bernie won't withhold his vote on something like this, hence little or no negotiating power.

[lapucelle]

37. Senator Sanders was talking about the Inflation Reduction Act.

The text of the bill was ready to go on Wednesday, July 27 with no input from the Budget Committee chair.

As late as August 3, Senator Sanders stated:

My understanding is that the so-called “Inflation Reduction Act” may be coming to the floor in the coming days.

Senator Sanders was still deriding one of the bill's short titles (Inflation Reduction Act) on Saturday, August 7.

[mcar]

12. Good question

[Sympthsical]

15. I feel you

I get bored sometimes too and throw a bit of yarn across the floor to see if my kittens will fight over it.

The kerthunk sound as they tackle one another and roll across the living room is highly amusing.

[Arazi]

16. !

[betsuni]

19. Populist/revolution/movement yarn across the floor for kittens to fight over!

LOL

[Sympthsical]

21. It is too early in the morning

To make that kind of attempt.

Trapeze gotta be limber. "All net" depends on context.

[betsuni]

25. It's not early in the morning where I live. What "attempt"?

What are you talking about?

[Sympthsical]

27. Speaking of

So the other day I finished a week-long work project and my last final of summer semester. I was just totally beat. So it was a very flop on couch and watch a movie I don't have to think about kind of evening.

Beetlejuice is on HBO Max now. It reminded me of how this works.

If someone just goes, "Berniejuice, Berniejuice, Berniejuice!" it's like *poof* And then you just have to work down the attendance list like the world's most bored teacher who idly hates their job.

Things shouldn't be that effective.

So I started wondering what I could be summoned by. What's something, if someone says the word aloud, I will knock over small children in a frantic rush to be a part of.

I came up with key changes in the choruses of famous songs.

Think about a song like My Heart Will Go On. Even if you're heartily sick of it, when you hear that beat with the E major shift into A flat major, you will burst into the room fist pound on chest whether you want to or not.

Bernie Sanders is this place's key change for some.

[betsuni]

28. Like, I totally bought two houses and a boat because Soros paid me to be nice to Democrats on DU.

"If you write a best-selling book, you can be a millionaire too."

[Nixie]

22. +1, some yarns are so much more understandable!

Those poor kitties get so confused!

[betsuni]

31. +1

[progressoid]

36. +1

[Voltaire2]

42. This.

F’ing transparent.

[lapucelle]

24. Under normal circumstances, the debate would have opened with the Chair of the Budget Committee

framing an argument in favor of the bill and the Ranking Member making the argument against.

Instead, the first six words we heard were

"The so called Inflation Reduction Act..."

It was unconscionable.

[betsuni]

32. +1

[Cha]

41. Mahalo For this.. I get it

now.

Focus!
Please Fight to Save Our Democracy💙 in 2022 & 2024!

[Voltaire2]

43. Back in the day at least a dozen mahalos.

Sad.

[Cha]

48. PJB & VP Harris are Actually Helping to SAVE OUR DEMOCRACY!

Link to tweet

[sheshe2]

49. I love these, Cha!!!

[Cha]

50. Right! At least we have two Dem Leaders

at the TOP of the Ticket Who are Working For the American People.. Not Grandstanding for themselves. and Dissing a Dem WIN! .

Focus!
Please Fight to Save Our Democracy💙 in 2022 & 2024!