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Celerity

(54,333 posts)
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 12:53 PM Aug 2022

"We need to take away children."







The secret history of the U.S. government’s family-separation policy



https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/09/trump-administration-family-separation-policy-immigration/670604/

https://archive.ph/klfCn



As a therapist for children who are being processed through the American immigration system, Cynthia Quintana has a routine that she repeats each time she meets a new patient in her office in Grand Rapids, Michigan: She calls the parents or closest relatives to let them know the child is safe and well cared for, and provides 24-hour contact information.

This process usually plays out within hours of when the children arrive. Most are teens who have memorized or written down their relatives’ phone numbers in notebooks they carried with them across the border. By the time of that initial call, their families are typically worried, waiting anxiously for news after having—in an act of desperation—sent their children into another country alone in pursuit of safety and the hope of a future.

But in the summer of 2017, Quintana encountered a curious case. A 3-year-old Guatemalan boy with a toothy smile and bowl-cut black hair sat down at her desk. He was far too little to have made the journey on his own. He had no phone numbers with him, and when she asked where he was headed or whom he’d been with, the boy stared back blankly. Quintana scoured his file for more information but found nothing. She asked for help from an Immigration and Customs Enforcement officer, who came back several days later with something unusual: information indicating that the boy’s father was in federal custody.

At their next session, the boy squirmed in his chair as Quintana dialed the detention center, getting his father on the line. At first the dad was quiet, she told me. “Finally we said, ‘Your child is here. He can hear you. You can speak now.’ And you could just tell that his voice was breaking—he couldn’t.”

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An astonishing feat of reporting
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"We need to take away children." (Original Post) Celerity Aug 2022 OP
Another grain of sand on the beach of evidence Jerry2144 Aug 2022 #1
Future slave labor for Republicans. LakeArenal Aug 2022 #3
Age makes no difference when our conservative Christians call them animals. keithbvadu2 Aug 2022 #2
I read the whole thing yesterday - it's very long but worth the time - Ocelot II Aug 2022 #4
+1 2naSalit Aug 2022 #5
I absolutely agree with your theory. MontanaMama Aug 2022 #7
It's sickening. 2naSalit Aug 2022 #9
Yes, I will never forget the chill Quakerfriend Aug 2022 #11
K&R spanone Aug 2022 #6
Betsy DeVoss!! gibraltar72 Aug 2022 #8
Bookmarking liberalla Aug 2022 #10
K&R Solly Mack Aug 2022 #12
The whole excuse that all these extra babies that will result from forcing women to have babies Lonestarblue Aug 2022 #13
They are so obsessed with pedophilia and child trafficking- they are the guilty ones. NBachers Aug 2022 #14
Projection...it's what they do...nt Wounded Bear Aug 2022 #18
I'm still reading it, barbtries Aug 2022 #15
Yesterday on MSNBC not fooled Aug 2022 #16
The unimaginable cruelty of Sophie's Choice is right wing policy now. alphafemale Aug 2022 #17

Jerry2144

(3,265 posts)
1. Another grain of sand on the beach of evidence
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 01:01 PM
Aug 2022

That the Christofascists are ducking evil. There is no need to be that evil. How dangerous is a three-year old anyway?

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
2. Age makes no difference when our conservative Christians call them animals.
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 01:25 PM
Aug 2022

Age makes no difference when our conservative Christians call them animals.

Trump ramps up rhetoric on undocumented immigrants: 'These aren't people. These are animals.'

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/05/16/trump-immigrants-animals-mexico-democrats-sanctuary-cities/617252002/

Ocelot II

(130,436 posts)
4. I read the whole thing yesterday - it's very long but worth the time -
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 01:27 PM
Aug 2022

and posted it yesterday in the editorials and other articles forum, which I don't think anybody looks at. https://www.democraticunderground.com/1016328703 You really have to read this - we thought it was horrifying at the time, but it was even worse than we thought. They didn't just lose the children; they wanted to take them away. Some people tried to prevent it but were either unable to get through the bureaucracy or were too chickenshit to stand up to TFG and Steven Miller; others, including some people we hadn't even heard of, wanted to do it and set out to do it from the very beginning.

The extent of the evil of the Trump administration is being revealed more and more, and it's as clear as gin that if any of these monsters achieve power again we are well and truly fucked.

2naSalit

(102,622 posts)
5. +1
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 01:53 PM
Aug 2022

Last edited Mon Aug 8, 2022, 02:25 PM - Edit history (1)

I think they were planning to sell them, quite frankly.

This is another facet of what could amount to the biggest RICO case ever.

Those assholes need to burn on earth before they get to burn in hell.

MontanaMama

(24,718 posts)
7. I absolutely agree with your theory.
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 02:20 PM
Aug 2022

Similarly, the current trend of white fake Christians on social media who say "we'll adopt your baby" to pregnant women will either sell the kids or traffic them. These people know no bottom.

Quakerfriend

(5,882 posts)
11. Yes, I will never forget the chill
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 02:50 PM
Aug 2022

that ran up my spine as I watched the news-
little girls in shorts and flip flops being escorted at 1am to god knows where- moving them around from Tx to Philadelphia- for what purpose????

to sell them I thought- plain as day.

Lonestarblue

(13,460 posts)
13. The whole excuse that all these extra babies that will result from forcing women to have babies
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 03:15 PM
Aug 2022

will be adopted is a lot of distraction and lies. Here are the numbers of children in foster care from 2020:

Published by Statista Research Department, Feb 9, 2022

“In 2020, there were 175,870 white children in foster care in the United States. This is compared to 92,237 Black or African American children and 88,111 Hispanic children who were in foster care.”

I saw another statistic recently that only 2% of families in this country adopt, and while some do take children from another race many will not. Nor will they sign up for those who are physically or mentally challenged. Obviously, perfect white babies will be adopted first. The white evangelicals just don’t talk about all the others left to wither in foster care, much of which is abysmal in the US. I wish the media would challenge some of the people claiming that all these babies will be adopted with these statistics and ask them why these children have not been adopted. I won’t hold my breath waiting for that to happen.

barbtries

(31,300 posts)
15. I'm still reading it,
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 03:48 PM
Aug 2022

but thank you for posting. I have shared and signed up for the ZOOM on the 12th.

It shames me as an American that this atrocious policy was even considered let alone enacted. It is a Crime Against Humanity. Will there be consequences, ever?

not fooled

(6,670 posts)
16. Yesterday on MSNBC
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 04:16 PM
Aug 2022

there was a show about Latino voters. Many are turning to vote puke*. One woman interviewed said that the republican party "better aligns with her Christian values." I wish the interviewer had brought up the separated children and babies and asked her how that registers on her scale of Christian virtue.



*the reasoon is probably the rise of RW talk radio in Spanish. The 666koch(s)666 know what they're doing.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
17. The unimaginable cruelty of Sophie's Choice is right wing policy now.
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 04:19 PM
Aug 2022

And they chortle about it.

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