There is more to this raid than meets the eye.

[fightforfreedom]

The risk of raiding Trumps home was off the charts. It would be a catastrophic disaster if they raided Trumps home and found nothing.

Believing Trump still had documents would not be good enough for the DOJ to take such a big risk. They must of had in the moment intelligence, evidence, documents or something else was there. How would they know Trump did not destroy the evidence a week ago, 2, 3 days ago? They had to have solid proof evidence was there.

For some reason phone taps keep coming to mind.

[EYESORE 9001]

1. It occurs to me

that rump is the sort of miscreant who would get satisfaction from showing classified documents to members of his execrable golf club. Perhaps one of them has a vestige of patriotism and couldn’t remain silent, dropping a dime on Cheeto Benito. This is pure speculation on my part.

[Quakerfriend]

2. I have a hunch they have hard evidence of

espionage.

Someone on the ‘inside’ must have told them what to look for.

[Novara]

10. I agree

We know he's got a serious cash crunch with several major loans coming due and no one willing to loan him money anymore. Imagine how much money he could get for selling classified documents to the Saudis, for example.

[Quakerfriend]

13. Yup- as always, looking for the next grift.

Who knows how many national secrets he’s already sold.

[imanamerican63]

11. You're spot on!

[newdayneeded]

3. This is similar to my OP

I agree, they wouldn't of done just because donny was spouting his bullshit. they would've needed solid proof.....period!

[Richard D]

4. My question . . .

. . . is who are his secret service detail loyal to? The United States or trump?

[Novara]

8. Secret Service aren't SUPPOSED to be loyal to anyone

It's a job of protection of a person. There isn't supposed to be any question of loyalty, says a former SS person.

[mopinko]

9. at least it was only the b team.

[Arkansas Granny]

5. They might have a reliable informant. It's funny the raid happened on the same day

that the toilet pictures were published. Coincidence?

[Irish_Dem]

6. For a judge to sign the warrant, there had to be hard evidence presented.

In the FBI cases I have read about, yes there has been wire taps, direct surveillance, etc.

And the warrant has to list items being searched for.

So yes they knew what they were looking for and had hard evidence to support the search.

[Novara]

7. It isn't a raid, so let's stop calling it that

They didn't break the door down and storm the place. This was a quietly executed search warrant.

But you're right about it being much bigger than the classified documents. The legal experts are saying that this was predicated by likely FRESH evidence of an ONGOING CRIME and that it had SOME URGENCY. Otherwise they'd have negotiated with him instead of taking the unprecedented step of getting a search warrant for a former president's SAFE. This is a really big fucking deal.

I suspect he sold classified material to the highest bidder. He's got a lot of big bills due soon and no way of paying for them. Nobody is loaning him money anymore. He's got a serious cash crunch. This might be related to some sort of major illegal grift, and involving national fucking security.

[getagrip_already]

12. Please, it's ridiculously simple.....

The doj knew documents were there because (a) they saw them in June, (b) they have been in touch with trumps lawyers who likely confirmed they were still there.

Trump was unwilling to return them.

It would be a slam dunk to get a warrant to search and seize based on those conditions.

It's really simple. It's not political. It's a pedestrian physical crime.

[dalton99a]

14. The search warrant application was scrutinized and approved at the highest levels