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Novara

(6,115 posts)
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 06:43 AM Aug 2022

Why the Trump search warrant is nothing like Hillary's emails

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/09/why-the-trump-search-warrant-is-nothing-like-hillarys-emails-00050691

This is rch:

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In the absence of more detailed information about the investigation, it’s unclear what potential crimes DOJ is probing. Notably, Trump — after a fierce campaign against Clinton in which he called for her to be jailed for her handling of classified material — signed a law in 2018 that stiffened the penalty for the unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents from one year to five years, turning it into a felony offense.


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Why the Trump search warrant is nothing like Hillary's emails (Original Post) Novara Aug 2022 OP
Perfect questionseverything Aug 2022 #1
Shit tends to backfire on the motherfucker, doesn't it? Novara Aug 2022 #2
"Hoist with his own petard" as it were. IrishAfricanAmerican Aug 2022 #3
IIRC Hilary has only three emails that were classified, and those with the lowest level. Lonestarblue Aug 2022 #4
The goverment's server was awful...her server was not hacked...and they all use private email Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #12
Of course the media ignored that. triron Aug 2022 #18
It is like a looney toon cartoon The Jungle 1 Aug 2022 #5
God works in mysterious ways, doesn't he? sop Aug 2022 #6
His will Traildogbob Aug 2022 #9
The biggest difference is this Johnny2X2X Aug 2022 #7
She was the Secretary of State, senate confirmed bottomofthehill Aug 2022 #13
Thanks Johnny2X2X Aug 2022 #14
Did I read that they found 6 "classified" emails in Hillary's files? kentuck Aug 2022 #8
Three, I believe, not six. niyad Aug 2022 #11
That is also my understanding. triron Aug 2022 #19
He'd release the search warrant, orthoclad Aug 2022 #10
The media never bothers to explain the US system of document classification. Lonestarblue Aug 2022 #15
Who was the CNN news person? LiberalFighter Aug 2022 #16
I just found her on the CNN site--Pamela Brown. Lonestarblue Aug 2022 #17

Lonestarblue

(13,524 posts)
4. IIRC Hilary has only three emails that were classified, and those with the lowest level.
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 07:31 AM
Aug 2022

At least one of the three was classified after the fact, and one was about nothing more than scheduling a meeting with someone from another country. I don’t remember the content of the other because the media made it appear that she was using a private server for top secret classified information when she was not.

The media did a hatchet job on Clinton and never bothered mentioning the private RNC server that Karl Rove used to hide communications for the run up to the Iraq War, thousands of emails that he and the RNC deleted and which were never recovered. They mentioned Colin Powell’s use of a private server a couple of times but basically buries that.

It would be poetic justice for Trump to be caught by a bill he signed into law because of his vindictiveness toward Clinton.

Demsrule86

(71,549 posts)
12. The goverment's server was awful...her server was not hacked...and they all use private email
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 09:48 AM
Aug 2022

and continue to do so.

 

triron

(22,240 posts)
18. Of course the media ignored that.
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 12:03 PM
Aug 2022

Even now media compares HRC's handling of 'classified ' emails to what DOJ is investigating about Trump. It's absurd.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
5. It is like a looney toon cartoon
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 07:43 AM
Aug 2022

Bugs sticks his finger in the shotgun.
trump kinda looks like Elmer.

Traildogbob

(13,075 posts)
9. His will
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 09:07 AM
Aug 2022

The grand plan. Trump and trumpism was bait. He wanted to shake the bushes to see who ain’t welcome up there for the streets of gold and mansions. Just an easy culling process to not waste much time.

Johnny2X2X

(24,311 posts)
7. The biggest difference is this
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 08:17 AM
Aug 2022

Hillary was the acting SoS, she had the highest level security clearance there is. She had every right to possess any and all classified materials. She violated rules (not the law) around handling classified documents. Trump is a private citizen, he has no more right to possess classified materials than you or I do. What he did was a felony and it's easy to prove if they removed classified materials from Mar a Lago.

bottomofthehill

(9,395 posts)
13. She was the Secretary of State, senate confirmed
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 09:48 AM
Aug 2022

Trump was the king of the actings. He put people in all sorts of places for terms as they could not get through a Republican controlled senate they were so bad. Thus the Acting title for them. Secretary Clinton was the Secretary of State.

Johnny2X2X

(24,311 posts)
14. Thanks
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 10:00 AM
Aug 2022

She was handling classified information as part of her official job would have probably been a better way for me to state it.

Watch next, Republicans are going to try to normalize taking dozens of boxes of official government documents with you when you leave the White House. And I bet they'll even find some example of a previous president accidentally taking something they had to return, then they'll say, see, this is normal. They'll see Obama's people packed something trivial like a map of the White house they weren't supposed to and claim it's equivalent to Trump packing up 25 boxes of classified sensitive documents.

kentuck

(115,461 posts)
8. Did I read that they found 6 "classified" emails in Hillary's files?
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 08:22 AM
Aug 2022

And that they had been classified after they had been sent to her?

But none of them were related to national security and she did not lie to the FBI about them.

Lonestarblue

(13,524 posts)
15. The media never bothers to explain the US system of document classification.
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 10:02 AM
Aug 2022

Documents are classified as Confidential, Secret, and Top Secret. I believe the three Clinton emails were all just Confidential.

There is a world of difference between three confidential emails on a private server and a former president stealing box after box of top secret documents. I was gnashing my teeth this morning when a news person on CNN commented in response to the Republican claim that as president, Trump had the right to declassify all these documents so no big deal. She agreed that Trump had that right but then never bothered to clarify that even had he declassified them, they still belonged to the National Archives and he had no legal right to take them to his home!

Even when they think they’re being fair, media just leaves out parts that would clarify an issue. During this same segment, the other commenter, who was in charge of Hilary’s email investigation, never bothered to explain the system of classification and that her emails were the lowest level while what Trump took was the highest level. There are sins of omission as well as sins of commission!

Lonestarblue

(13,524 posts)
17. I just found her on the CNN site--Pamela Brown.
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 11:55 AM
Aug 2022

David Laufman was the FBI person who headed the Clinton investigation.

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