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Mike Niendorff

(3,666 posts)
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 07:34 AM Aug 2022

Liz Cheney : are you listening? Here's how you beat them.


You will lose your primary, make no mistake about that.

Nothing will change that. You know it, everyone knows it.

The question isn't how to change that.

The question is : WHAT THEN?

And the answer to that is stunningly simple: run as an independent (and as a write-in candidate if you have to).

Make it clear to Trump & Co that you will -- at the very least -- split the vote and deny them their prize.

Moreover, you might even find that there is enough crossover support for you to pull a Murkowski and actually *win* as an independent.

If I were you, though, I'd already be laying plans to do this.

So : are you?

If not, start now.


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Liz Cheney : are you listening? Here's how you beat them. (Original Post) Mike Niendorff Aug 2022 OP
Yes. They have to find a way to break away from him or he will break them Walleye Aug 2022 #1
The GOP is breaking Trump away from the party as we speak. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #3
I agree, they want rid of him but don't want to bear the blame. gab13by13 Aug 2022 #13
Exactly. McConnell devised a brilliant plan to dump Trump but can blame it on the Dems. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #15
Yes. Despite R's making it harder for cross-over voting (change in registration on voting day) hlthe2b Aug 2022 #2
Those options closed when she chose to run in the primary FBaggins Aug 2022 #5
Regardless, I think she has her sights on something far bigger & will sit out a couple of years hlthe2b Aug 2022 #8
She eventually will be vindicated. rubbersole Aug 2022 #14
She can't. That would be against the law FBaggins Aug 2022 #4
a write in isnt a nomination by petition moonshinegnomie Aug 2022 #6
I once worked on a write-in campaign... brooklynite Aug 2022 #7
I am still incredulous that Murkowsky was able to pull it off hlthe2b Aug 2022 #10
There's "red" and then there's "RED" FBaggins Aug 2022 #11
She can't come close to getting enough votes as a write-in FBaggins Aug 2022 #9
She might run for president. nt Earth-shine Aug 2022 #12
That's interesting. She might want to be the catalyst of change in the Republican Party...but then I CTyankee Aug 2022 #16
She has the potential to capture a lot of the anti-Trump Republican votes, Earth-shine Aug 2022 #17
I think she might be considering a POtUS run as an Independent 2024. msfiddlestix Aug 2022 #18
She Still voted with Trump 93% of the time Heather MC Aug 2022 #19
To be fair, Daddy found W the perfect running mate when ask? czarjak Aug 2022 #20

Irish_Dem

(82,312 posts)
3. The GOP is breaking Trump away from the party as we speak.
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 07:58 AM
Aug 2022

GOP is running J6 committee.

Witnesses were all GOP.

The FBI director who conducted the raid is GOP.

McCarthy (GOP), pulled all his GOP people from the committee and let Liz Cheney (GOP) run it.

None of this would have happened if McConnell (GOP) had not signed off on it.

The GOP is running a big piece of this Trump going down the drain show and the beauty is they can blame it on the Dems.

gab13by13

(32,761 posts)
13. I agree, they want rid of him but don't want to bear the blame.
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:43 AM
Aug 2022

David Plouffe is a very smart man and he is still not sure that Trump is going to run again. One of his reasons is that Trump is afraid he may not win the primary. Plouffe did admit his opinion is in the minority and the odds are against him.

Irish_Dem

(82,312 posts)
15. Exactly. McConnell devised a brilliant plan to dump Trump but can blame it on the Dems.
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 09:22 AM
Aug 2022

When we can see clearly it is the GOP handling J6.

The GOP elite has determined that Trump is a major liability.

I don't think anyone knows what Trump will do from day to day. He is highly unpredictable at times.
And there are many moving parts right now, every day brings new scandals.

Trump may be torn. He desperately wants the legal clout of being president, and all the cash he can haul in. But losing is humiliating for him. Of course he can just claim it was rigged if he loses to save face.

Plouffe could be right.

hlthe2b

(114,672 posts)
2. Yes. Despite R's making it harder for cross-over voting (change in registration on voting day)
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 07:42 AM
Aug 2022

she does have options:

https://wyofile.com/dear-liz-cheney-run-in-the-general-election/

Time to send a messaging Wyoming to the corrupt R system, even while I'm never going to be a Cheney supporter. These issues are bigger than any one candidate.

FBaggins

(28,762 posts)
5. Those options closed when she chose to run in the primary
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:01 AM
Aug 2022

Note the date of the article.

hlthe2b

(114,672 posts)
8. Regardless, I think she has her sights on something far bigger & will sit out a couple of years
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:10 AM
Aug 2022

while garnering national attention, still.

rubbersole

(11,277 posts)
14. She eventually will be vindicated.
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:53 AM
Aug 2022

Then higher office is very possible. tfg has to be completely ruined first. That seems to be happening faster than I thought. Couldn't happen to a bigger pos.

FBaggins

(28,762 posts)
4. She can't. That would be against the law
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 07:59 AM
Aug 2022
Unsuccessful primary candidates precluded.

An unsuccessful candidate for office at a primary election, whose name is printed on any party ballot, may not seek nomination by petition for the same office at the next general election.

WY Stat § 22-5-302 (2014)

moonshinegnomie

(4,070 posts)
6. a write in isnt a nomination by petition
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:03 AM
Aug 2022

her name cant be on the ballot but she can still run as a write in candidate

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
7. I once worked on a write-in campaign...
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:09 AM
Aug 2022

Its phenomenally difficult; despite the best intentions of the voters, if they don't see your name on the ballot, they won't vote for you.

hlthe2b

(114,672 posts)
10. I am still incredulous that Murkowsky was able to pull it off
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:11 AM
Aug 2022

though she was (like Cheney) very well known.

FBaggins

(28,762 posts)
11. There's "red" and then there's "RED"
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:19 AM
Aug 2022

Alaska is R+8. Wyoming is R+25

Trump won the state by well over 2-1 (about 2.5-1). There aren't enough anti-Trump voters to beat the republican nominee even if they all voted for her.

FBaggins

(28,762 posts)
9. She can't come close to getting enough votes as a write-in
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:11 AM
Aug 2022

It would be tough to see her throw the race to the democrat even if she were able to get on the ballot... but she can't do anything more than embarrass herself as a write-in.

CTyankee

(68,471 posts)
16. That's interesting. She might want to be the catalyst of change in the Republican Party...but then I
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 09:38 AM
Aug 2022

think of her father and ....

 

Earth-shine

(4,044 posts)
17. She has the potential to capture a lot of the anti-Trump Republican votes,
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 09:42 AM
Aug 2022

and perhaps some Independents and Democrats as well.

Whereas she shines as an anti-Trump warrior, she has terrible conservative politics, and voted for most of Trump's policies. We must beware.

msfiddlestix

(8,183 posts)
18. I think she might be considering a POtUS run as an Independent 2024.
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 09:45 AM
Aug 2022

it would not surprise in the least.

And dare I say it? I can see "centrists" in both parties voting for her in that high office.

I recognized a cetain something, during an opening of the first J6 hearing, which has only gotten stronger with every hearing.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
19. She Still voted with Trump 93% of the time
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 10:04 AM
Aug 2022

Let's not forget she is still A GOPisser.

She is responsible for that horrendous Supreme Court

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