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(1,189 posts)
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:16 PM Aug 2022

Can't agree with what Garland did

Garland didn't have to say anything. Stoney silence conveys impartiality. The TFG can blather on and BS all he likes. No serious person takes him seriously. Garland coming out to defend the FBI will not impress those who are attacking them.

Publicly stating he is trying to get the warrant unsealed makes it seem he's taking sides, trying to show Trump up. He should have no more or less interest in getting it unsealed in this case than in any other. He shouldn't care what people claim or think. Let the pundits have it out.

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Can't agree with what Garland did (Original Post) 867-5309. Aug 2022 OP
... mcar Aug 2022 #1
... BannonsLiver Aug 2022 #2
Yeah, only over 50 million voters take him seriously Eliot Rosewater Aug 2022 #3
God bless you Mr. Rosewater. rzemanfl Aug 2022 #11
And? MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2022 #4
Amen inthewind21 Aug 2022 #65
Standing by silently after Drumpf painted himself into a corner would be- rzemanfl Aug 2022 #5
That is absolute nonsense MerryHolidays Aug 2022 #6
Disagree 100%. johnp3907 Aug 2022 #7
Weak. Kingofalldems Aug 2022 #8
Transparency is best. And Garland is calling Trump out. Earth-shine Aug 2022 #9
Well, it worked. TFG is turning a 180 about screaming to unseal the warrents. haele Aug 2022 #10
shocked bigtree Aug 2022 #12
Nah EnergizedLib Aug 2022 #13
This is concern trolling budkin Aug 2022 #14
My thoughts as well. Put trump on the hot seat as often as possible. brush Aug 2022 #21
I'm noticing a pattern with this gentleman or lady. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2022 #60
Yes Nixie Aug 2022 #70
You've got their number. JHB Aug 2022 #75
Yup obamanut2012 Aug 2022 #39
I agree totally. Did the poster even WATCH the news conference? hlthe2b Aug 2022 #40
Yep. And not the first time. Scrivener7 Aug 2022 #44
riiight? MrsCoffee Aug 2022 #49
Yes. betsuni Aug 2022 #56
Whine when he doesn't do stuff, then whine when he does. TwilightZone Aug 2022 #15
Exactly LakeArenal Aug 2022 #23
+1 betsuni Aug 2022 #58
After the FBI being attacked in OH based on lies about the warrant, saying something and RockRaven Aug 2022 #16
Oh gawd please boston bean Aug 2022 #17
normally I would agree Skittles Aug 2022 #18
The FBI is under threat from TFG cult. Like the guy in Cincinnati today. panader0 Aug 2022 #19
It's ok. All Garland said was "Checkmate. Your move." nt Samrob Aug 2022 #20
You oppose transparency then. BannonsLiver Aug 2022 #22
JudicialWatch kinda forced his hand too. Heh Roland99 Aug 2022 #24
Seriously? greatauntoftriplets Aug 2022 #25
Huh???? Bad take. NewHendoLib Aug 2022 #26
Garland responded perfectly. Phoenix61 Aug 2022 #27
It is dangerous for a nation that has come so close to being politically toppled by a crazy crowd, NH Ethylene Aug 2022 #28
Huh? choie Aug 2022 #29
So Garland should have focused on 'impressing' the MAGAs? Kingofalldems Aug 2022 #30
I think it was PERFECT iemanja Aug 2022 #31
Completely wrong. kairos12 Aug 2022 #32
Trump stole nuclear documents, Garland did the right thing. sarcasmo Aug 2022 #33
I think it was a good thing, but I am slightly irritated that ecstatic Aug 2022 #34
I very much disagree with you. halfulglas Aug 2022 #35
I think what he did was a good move. nt BlackSkimmer Aug 2022 #36
48 hrs ago, I agreed with you. The GOP exhortation to violence and Trump's call for release Raven123 Aug 2022 #37
Eye roll. skylucy Aug 2022 #38
I'm not at all surprised FrankBooth Aug 2022 #41
Couldn't disagree more Dorian Gray Aug 2022 #42
Good gawd nothing is enough 🤦🏼‍♀️ we can do it Aug 2022 #43
Nope, Trump pleaded the 5th 440 times, we wanna know more, open the files, you betcha Shanti Shanti Shanti Aug 2022 #45
And I can't agree w you. And btw there is a court case requesting the warrant be unsealed. emulatorloo Aug 2022 #46
Only right-wing'ers stillcool Aug 2022 #47
Really...well I think you are wrong. A man died today because of the bullshit lies emanting from Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #48
Yawn. likesmountains 52 Aug 2022 #50
Why would you post such a blatantly wallop of horse urine? 48656c6c6f20 Aug 2022 #51
Oh. Well, call Jenny and complain about it. Thtwudbeme Aug 2022 #52
Ha! Good catch. TheBeam19 Aug 2022 #62
Was looking for the sarcasm tag. onenote Aug 2022 #53
That was obnoxiousdrunk Aug 2022 #54
You should rethink your take. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2022 #55
Creepy crawlers hide in the dark. We need to shine the light on them. FlyingPiggy Aug 2022 #57
I can't agree with what you said. n/t. NNadir Aug 2022 #59
caught between a rock and a hard place.. he actually had to defend his people msfiddlestix Aug 2022 #61
How does Garland asking the court to do what Trump himself publicly requested be done Torchlight Aug 2022 #63
Stoney silence works wonders when you have Rump lying and winding up the nutters to shoot up Celerity Aug 2022 #64
Yeah inthewind21 Aug 2022 #66
As my grandmother used to say.... zappaman Aug 2022 #67
Disagree with you. Caliman73 Aug 2022 #68
If he had said that he requested it being unsealed without giving TFG option to object. LiberalFighter Aug 2022 #69
Ah, a hit and run post obamanut2012 Aug 2022 #71
I think it is fucking brilliant mercuryblues Aug 2022 #72
100% disagree, address and get in front JCMach1 Aug 2022 #73
Nope. Wrong. Same as David Brooks is wrong today. GoneOffShore Aug 2022 #74

MerryHolidays

(7,715 posts)
6. That is absolute nonsense
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:21 PM
Aug 2022

You are fine with Trump's blathering on about the search, but want the DoJ/FBI to be silent? You do understand that filing documents under seal is generally an exception, not the norm?

When the other party puts the search in the public forum, it's basically a no-brainer for the DoJ/FBI to counter that, "stoney [sic] silence" or otherwise.

haele

(15,366 posts)
10. Well, it worked. TFG is turning a 180 about screaming to unseal the warrents.
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:22 PM
Aug 2022

If TFG really wanted people to know what was on the warrents, he would have released his copy already.
This just shut him up and stopped a lot of the shit-pot-stirring his fellow travellers are doing.

Haele

EnergizedLib

(3,007 posts)
13. Nah
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:24 PM
Aug 2022

Who cares about impressing critics? I doubt anything we do will be good enough for them.

Also, remember how dirty Barr was? What does playing clean get us?

hlthe2b

(113,800 posts)
40. I agree totally. Did the poster even WATCH the news conference?
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 09:00 PM
Aug 2022

or read any of the context around what has transpired the past few days? HMMM

RockRaven

(19,262 posts)
16. After the FBI being attacked in OH based on lies about the warrant, saying something and
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:25 PM
Aug 2022

moving to unsealed it is not so much taking sides as it is doing what is in his power to protect his workforce.

boston bean

(36,927 posts)
17. Oh gawd please
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:26 PM
Aug 2022

You have to fight these fascists with everything we got.

They cannot control the narrative pulling this country into the abyss.

We are in the fight for our country.

SPEAK MORE MERRICK. SPEAK MORE!

Skittles

(171,502 posts)
18. normally I would agree
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:28 PM
Aug 2022

but Trump and his sick cult are doing tremendous damage to America, and it is long past time we stopped being polite and CALL THEM OUT

panader0

(25,816 posts)
19. The FBI is under threat from TFG cult. Like the guy in Cincinnati today.
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:30 PM
Aug 2022

There are many of his cult declaring war on the DOJ because of the search of MAL. By calling TFG's
bluff, he is seeking to stop the threats.

BannonsLiver

(20,536 posts)
22. You oppose transparency then.
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:32 PM
Aug 2022

Which is also something TFG opposes. I sure wouldn’t want to be on the TFG’s side on any issue, but different strokes and all that….

At any rate I’m enjoying the ratio.

Phoenix61

(18,816 posts)
27. Garland responded perfectly.
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:39 PM
Aug 2022

He tossed the ball back to TFG who is now scrambling trying to figure out what to do.

NH Ethylene

(31,336 posts)
28. It is dangerous for a nation that has come so close to being politically toppled by a crazy crowd,
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:42 PM
Aug 2022

To have Jan 6 type rage boiling up and over, and that is of course, what Trump is trying to accomplish.

What Garland did (hopefully) thwarts this. He looks accommodating, like he wants to clear up confusion over the raid's legitimacy. And if Trump blocks the document release tomorrow, he looks like he is hiding something.

choie

(6,896 posts)
29. Huh?
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:43 PM
Aug 2022

We had a MAGA January 6th freak attempt to breach the FBI building in Cincinnati and you don't think it important that he provide information that explains their actions as it pertains to trump's alleged criminality? He understands all too well what this country is dealing with. Murderers, insurrectionists and traitors.

kairos12

(13,567 posts)
32. Completely wrong.
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:49 PM
Aug 2022

Garland learned from Mueller. Leave a vacuum, and Chump fills it with nitro.

ecstatic

(35,063 posts)
34. I think it was a good thing, but I am slightly irritated that
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:50 PM
Aug 2022

it seems the only time law enforcement is the most amped up is when they're defending their own or responding to the GOP's demands. Our demands are pretty much ignored. Other than that, I think AGG checkmated tfg. Kudos to him.

halfulglas

(1,654 posts)
35. I very much disagree with you.
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:51 PM
Aug 2022

He wasn't trying to show Trump up. He was doing a verbal jujitsu move. Calmly announcing what was done and taking complete responsibility for it (when did anyone in TFG's administration do that?) and telling him "It's your move."

Raven123

(7,780 posts)
37. 48 hrs ago, I agreed with you. The GOP exhortation to violence and Trump's call for release
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:53 PM
Aug 2022

…….changed my mind. If I understand correctly, they went over and above to respect Trump’s right to privacy, only to get death threats and one actual attempted assault in Cincinnati. Garland has done nothing but said ok, to Trump’s request.

Dorian Gray

(13,850 posts)
42. Couldn't disagree more
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 09:22 PM
Aug 2022

I think that the Right Wing was clamoring for the warrant to be unsealed. He offered them what they want. He called their bluff.

I think he also looks more impartial for it. Opening it up so people can see what it's all about so that they can stop making up stories.

stillcool

(34,407 posts)
47. Only right-wing'ers
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 10:22 PM
Aug 2022

are welcome to defend their actions. Everyone else needs to STFU and swallow.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
48. Really...well I think you are wrong. A man died today because of the bullshit lies emanting from
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 10:26 PM
Aug 2022

Trump and his allies.

 

48656c6c6f20

(7,638 posts)
51. Why would you post such a blatantly wallop of horse urine?
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 10:43 PM
Aug 2022

You like stoney silence? Suggestion, try it on for size.

msfiddlestix

(8,178 posts)
61. caught between a rock and a hard place.. he actually had to defend his people
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 11:21 AM
Aug 2022

tough choices often times, but in this case, it doesn't matter what he'd done. the reaction would be tailored to fit, and just the same at the end of the day.

Torchlight

(6,759 posts)
63. How does Garland asking the court to do what Trump himself publicly requested be done
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 11:32 AM
Aug 2022

make Garland look like he's taking sides against Trump?

Please be specific. If possible.








(Below Ground Biological Diversity)

Celerity

(54,306 posts)
64. Stoney silence works wonders when you have Rump lying and winding up the nutters to shoot up
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 11:34 AM
Aug 2022

FBI offices!




poor post

Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
68. Disagree with you.
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 12:12 PM
Aug 2022

Garland is not trying to convince the people who are attacking him. As I said in a thread I started, the people attacking Garland (Trump and supporters) are NOT operating in good faith. They are doing what people often do with government agencies that are typically bound to respect confidentiality. They can attack and smear agencies and the agency cannot really do much to defend itself because sharing information would violate privacy, or put investigations at risk, etc...

As Garland said, DOJ does it's "talking" with legal actions in court. The problem with that is we have an insanely corrupt former politician who has a whole media system backing him, and an entire political party willing to further his corrupt aims Trump and the GOP have been successful at framing the narrative. Garland requesting the unseal the warrant puts Trump in a position where he either has to OBJECT to what he specifically was asking for and complaining about, and look like a complete hypocrite to all but his brain dead followers; OR the warrant is unsealed and everyone interested finds out the process by which the DOJ had their suspicions and what they were looking for. Either way, they will find NO political motivations for the search, simply a boring process. They ONLY way Trump keeps his charade going is if he objects, then continues to whine about "lack of transparency", then it is up to the Democratic Party to shout him down and point out to everyone listening that transparency was his for the asking but he BLOCKED it.

The thing about this situation should actually be that it doesn't matter if this was a Democratic or Republican politician doing this, the process would be the SAME. Thing is, Democratic politicians do not lie, steal stuff, and stonewall like Republicans do. We believe in the law and try to follow it as best we can. That is the difference. This is typically UNNECESSARY with Democrats.

mercuryblues

(16,376 posts)
72. I think it is fucking brilliant
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 12:31 PM
Aug 2022

Trump created this spectacle with his demands that the warrant be released, with his followers amplifying that. The thing is trump could have released his copy at any time. Instead, he chose to drum up his cult to make death threats to the judge and attack the FBI.

He backed trump's ass into a corner. Trump never thought that he would release the warrant, so he could use that as an attack point on the FBI, DOJ and judges. trump is on record as demanding the release of the warrant, of which he could have released it at any time. Trump now has a choice, fight the release in court or let the DOJ release it. News reports are also pointing out trump has a copy he can release, why didn't he?

trump and his "crack" team of lawyers are woefully unprepared.

JCMach1

(29,194 posts)
73. 100% disagree, address and get in front
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 12:50 PM
Aug 2022

Of the news cycle...

Garland finally nailed something.

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