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OAITW r.2.0

(32,563 posts)
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 10:12 PM Aug 2022

Why would Trump have classified docs on Nuclear Technology?

Could give a shit about his moronic, fan club love-letters, but this is on a whole different level of treason.

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Why would Trump have classified docs on Nuclear Technology? (Original Post) OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2022 OP
To sell them. Almost certainly. TDale313 Aug 2022 #1
Passed onto the Saudi Arabian Govt montanacowboy Aug 2022 #2
To sell. n/t JoeOtterbein Aug 2022 #3
Seems obvious now ymetca Aug 2022 #4
One of the talking heads on TV said that Trump would brag about asking for intel. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #5
He would have to request them through formal channels. WarGamer Aug 2022 #6
Exactly. OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2022 #9
Interesting that all this is blowing up shortly after the tournament Takket Aug 2022 #24
Has anyone checked Fort Knox lately? C_U_L8R Aug 2022 #10
Gotta love the name, Auric Goldfinger, OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2022 #21
Well, they're both golf cheats C_U_L8R Aug 2022 #27
+++++++++ OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2022 #28
He's the man, the man with the Shit-Midas Touch. eShirl Aug 2022 #32
But why wait this long? grumpyduck Aug 2022 #7
Who said he has waited? hamsterjill Aug 2022 #15
fan club love-letters elleng Aug 2022 #8
I don't care, do you? OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2022 #14
one bromance leads to another, elleng Aug 2022 #16
Don't worry superpatriotman Aug 2022 #11
So he can feel important/powerful by showing them to people. RockRaven Aug 2022 #12
I can think of only one reason for him to have them in his possession. Solly Mack Aug 2022 #13
And leverage. 2naSalit Aug 2022 #19
Maybe Solly Mack Aug 2022 #25
Started thinking about the times he threatened other countries with Nukes and this thought Solly Mack Aug 2022 #26
Well... 2naSalit Aug 2022 #29
Probably exec summary level info.... getagrip_already Aug 2022 #17
I hope so....but why is Trump interested? What information was he given? We don't know the damage OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2022 #20
It could be CONPLAN, the Pres has automatic access to that. It's up there with warhead blueprints. sir pball Aug 2022 #33
Yup, Lawrence is all over it tonight. 2naSalit Aug 2022 #18
Or to ransom them Generic Brad Aug 2022 #22
One thing I am sure of.... OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2022 #23
He can only understand those... 2naSalit Aug 2022 #30
2 possible theories D_Master81 Aug 2022 #31
I don't think that we have to prove what his motives were Chainfire Aug 2022 #34
"Waaaa! You didn't elect me for a second term! I'll show you!" Roisin Ni Fiachra Aug 2022 #35
The lack of sufficient security at the hotel versus the white house put the USA at risk. Evergreen Emerald Aug 2022 #36
They're like Traveler's Checks. Kid Berwyn Aug 2022 #37
Bragging rights Deminpenn Aug 2022 #38
Connect the dots jonstl08 Aug 2022 #39

montanacowboy

(6,730 posts)
2. Passed onto the Saudi Arabian Govt
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 10:14 PM
Aug 2022

maybe during the golf tournament
Remember Jared got 2 billion from the Saudis, what was that for?

Whatever he did it's worse then we can imagine

ymetca

(1,182 posts)
4. Seems obvious now
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 10:14 PM
Aug 2022

to sell them to the Saudis for a golf tournament.

Ah, yes -- the Art of the Deal!

Irish_Dem

(82,292 posts)
5. One of the talking heads on TV said that Trump would brag about asking for intel.
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 10:15 PM
Aug 2022

He would pick up the phone and people would bring him boxes and boxes of whatever he asked for.

He also installed his puppets into high levels of government. They gave him what he wanted.

WarGamer

(18,855 posts)
6. He would have to request them through formal channels.
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 10:15 PM
Aug 2022

If he wanted to know Top Secret statistics on a specific warhead or missile, he wouldn't be given a file or pile of papers.

He'd be met with a group of Pentagon folks who would give a presentation. Knowing Trump... lots of pictures.

I don't know if/how/why he'd obtain the actual documents.

OAITW r.2.0

(32,563 posts)
9. Exactly.
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 10:18 PM
Aug 2022

This was planned tech stealing. Passed already? But he sold us out for a nice LIV pay-off.

C_U_L8R

(49,519 posts)
10. Has anyone checked Fort Knox lately?
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 10:18 PM
Aug 2022

Seems Trump is trying very hard to emulate Auric Goldfinger.

grumpyduck

(6,686 posts)
7. But why wait this long?
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 10:17 PM
Aug 2022

Why not sell them, if that was the intention, over the last year and a half?

hamsterjill

(17,745 posts)
15. Who said he has waited?
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 10:23 PM
Aug 2022

He’s probably already given away anything he had of value. Putin isn’t going to play nice with a stupid idiot like Trump. Trump has to be doing something to keep Putin appeased.

OAITW r.2.0

(32,563 posts)
14. I don't care, do you?
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 10:21 PM
Aug 2022

Whatever that bromance was about, is not important. But taking specific data on nuclear subjects....why?

RockRaven

(19,748 posts)
12. So he can feel important/powerful by showing them to people.
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 10:20 PM
Aug 2022

He's one of the most boastful people on Earth (perhaps the one thing he does actually excel at, in quantity if not quality).

Solly Mack

(97,264 posts)
13. I can think of only one reason for him to have them in his possession.
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 10:20 PM
Aug 2022

To sell access to them.

There is no way such documents in his possession would be an oopsie. None.

Solly Mack

(97,264 posts)
25. Maybe
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 10:42 PM
Aug 2022

Incredibly stupid either way.

Dangerous, for certain - but so mind numbingly stupid.

Solly Mack

(97,264 posts)
26. Started thinking about the times he threatened other countries with Nukes and this thought
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 10:57 PM
Aug 2022

crossed my mind: What if the fucker wanted his own nuke? His own private stash?

Remember how he responded to North Korea with I have my own nuclear button and it's bigger?

And how he sounded like a kid with a new toy each time he talked about nukes and what they can do? How he wanted to use them all the time and couldn't understand why we had them if we didn't use them?

Just a crazy thought that crossed my mind.

Crazy.





2naSalit

(103,805 posts)
29. Well...
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 07:18 AM
Aug 2022

I would consider that a valid concern and one I hadn't quite gotten to yet. But that is a serious possibility.

I out absolutely NOTHING past that fucker. It's "give me everything I want when I want it or nobody can have anything." He and pootin have that suicide with casualties mindset to a more than dangerous level.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
17. Probably exec summary level info....
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 10:25 PM
Aug 2022

Program descriptions, status. Capabilites, tactics, etc, all at the 3rd grade level. This can still be very sensitive, but not enough to duplicate.

He likely didn't have tech level info.

And if he asked for it, I hope he would have been given honey pot data.

OAITW r.2.0

(32,563 posts)
20. I hope so....but why is Trump interested? What information was he given? We don't know the damage
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 10:30 PM
Aug 2022

he will cause us because Trump delivered secrets to our enemies.

sir pball

(5,350 posts)
33. It could be CONPLAN, the Pres has automatic access to that. It's up there with warhead blueprints.
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 08:41 AM
Aug 2022
CONPLAN/formerly SIOP is the comprehensive US nuclear war plan – strategies, targets, procedures, it's the literal script to Armageddon. It's one of the most secret and sensitive documents in the country, but as head of the National Command Authority the President necessarily has pretty much open access to it.

Might not be of much intrinsic value to the Saudis, unlike weapon design information, but it would be some of the most valuable intel on the planet in terms of resale value.

2naSalit

(103,805 posts)
18. Yup, Lawrence is all over it tonight.
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 10:26 PM
Aug 2022

As well as everyone else but more info keeps coming out.

Generic Brad

(14,374 posts)
22. Or to ransom them
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 10:34 PM
Aug 2022

He thinks Biden is weak and will buckle. He has no clue how honest, patriotic people react.

2naSalit

(103,805 posts)
30. He can only understand those...
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 07:20 AM
Aug 2022

For whom he is someone of stature, the ones he can manipulate and influence. He's totally clueless about what normal people are about.

D_Master81

(2,679 posts)
31. 2 possible theories
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 07:24 AM
Aug 2022

I have 2 theories:
1) He was selling the docs to the highest bidder. I honestly don’t think this was the case although I know most here do.
2) he wanted to brag about some new technology that was developed under his presidency to his buddies. Woodward made mention of this for his book a couple years ago Trump alluding to some new technology no one has seen before. He just couldn’t help himself probably he had to brag.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
34. I don't think that we have to prove what his motives were
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 09:46 AM
Aug 2022

in order to jail him for the actual act. He should spend the rest of his days behind bars, beginning today he should be in solitary confinement awaiting trial.

If it turns out that he actually transferred documents to a foreign power he should get the Eddie Slovik treatment. The last words whispered in his ear should be, "You're fired."

Kid Berwyn

(25,055 posts)
37. They're like Traveler's Checks.
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 09:57 AM
Aug 2022

Readily convertible at all participating corrupt despots’.

Deminpenn

(17,580 posts)
38. Bragging rights
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 10:01 AM
Aug 2022

and to show off to those he wants to impress is my guess.

Remember, Trump has always longed to be part of the elite moneyed and influencers, but they won't have him. Having top secret and beyond documents is just another way for him to "show them".

Jmho, it isn't any more complicated than that.

jonstl08

(576 posts)
39. Connect the dots
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 10:05 AM
Aug 2022

In 2019 Michael Flynn and other Trump cronies wanted to sell Nuclear technology to Saudi Arabia. Not sure if they ever were able to do it. Combine this along with the LIV golf tournament (Trump backed and Saudi financed), 2 billion the Saudis gave Jared along with the fact Trump is heavily in debt so who is financing that.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/feb/23/trump-cronies-secret-talks-nuclear-tech-saudi-arabia

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