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1. I think the reporting of the MSM has improved recently, but...
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 06:50 AM
Aug 2022

it still doesn't make up for what they've done in the past.

gab13by13

(21,290 posts)
2. I will concede there are some fantastic investigative journalists,
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 06:57 AM
Aug 2022

but when the story hits cable news a right hand spin is put on it. Journalists do uncover dirt but then it is downplayed.

If Trump had been a Democrat he would have been impeached, convicted, indicted and convicted.

jaxexpat

(6,815 posts)
13. The SOB's just can't make up their minds.
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 12:13 PM
Aug 2022

Will it be a hit job or snow job? That is their whole repertoire.

Trueblue Texan

(2,425 posts)
5. People can say what they want about the media...
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 08:00 AM
Aug 2022

...but they defend democracy just like the military, going into war zones, domestic minefields of all kinds. They're not perfect, but we'd be history without them.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
11. That's what I'm talking about, not the near do wells, those investigative reporters,
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 11:39 AM
Aug 2022

Who've uncovered the truth.

Danascot

(4,690 posts)
12. For the most part the media is part of the echo chamber
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 12:08 PM
Aug 2022

We could have seen it coming after all this time. They’re reliably predictable, no crystal ball required.

Trump appears to be in trouble: The FBI serves a warrant on Mar-a-Lago, seizing papers.

There’s a moment of hesitation or pause: Trump delivers a ranty statement some time after the FBI leaves.

The coordinated response is generated: Trump’s lawyers make a false claim about evidence being planted by FBI.

The zone is flooded: The right-wing’s proxies and media repeat ad nauseam the same false claim.

The media dutifully picks up and repeats: the zone is further flooded, amplifying the false claim.

This is a cycle we’ve seen repeated over and over again. The only additional step not included here is the final one in which some pundit will opine about this situation being bad for Democrats and Joe Biden though it has nothing to do with them whatsoever.

By now you’d think the media would have cottoned on they are used in this scenario like so much facial tissue — but no. They are as reflexive as the right-wing ecosphere itself, almost as if an adjunct.

Trump and his right-wing soldati ring the Pavlovian bell and the corporate media comes slobbering for an easy bone to chew.

https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/08/10/expected-response-is-expected-trump-and-right-wing-darvo/

robbob

(3,524 posts)
14. I see great investigative reporting from non MSM sources,
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 12:33 PM
Aug 2022

Such as Rolling Stone, or the recent Vanity Fair hard hitting post mortem of TFG “zero tolerance” border policies which separated parents from children with NO consideration for tracking these families after they’d been separated. Criminal and cruel behaviour.

If I show anything like this to my Fox watching friend he just shrugs his shoulders and says it’s a left wing fashion magazine. Facts and solid reporting doesn’t matter to these people. Anything that doesn’t fit their narrative is “fake news”. This is probably the greatest damage TDFG has done to America; there is no longer such a thing as “truth”.

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