It must be said about Merrick Garland

[jmowreader]

A lot of here were all “Garland isn’t doing anything about Trump. President Biden needs to get rid of him and get someone in there who will.”

Then…out of the blue…AG Garland drops a 500-pound anvil on Trump’s overpainted head.

Garland is running the tightest-lipped Justice Department in recent history. Garland is no joke; he’s the prosecutor who put The Unabomber in ADX Florence and who put a needle in Timothy McVeigh’s arm. He is exactly who we needed right now.

[Hekate]

1. KnR

[Duncanpup]

2. I admit I must eat crow when it comes to AG Garland.

[RussBLib]

7. Takes a big person to admit they were wrong.

Respect.

[wryter2000]

11. Thanks

I'm not perfect in this regard, either. I didn't think nothing was going on, but as time went on, I was afraid he wasn't taking this as seriously as he could. As many have said here, "if you go for the king, you'd better get him the first time," or something like that. Garland has surpassed my expectations, and less than 3 months before the midterms, too.

With more J6 hearings coming next month. I may die of overload of joy.

[DENVERPOPS]

24. We were all getting

concerned about Garland especially after the last "investigation/investigator" and his "report" on Trump/Russians..........

Mueller.......a real piece of work. He damn well knew, that if he reported the truth, it would not only take down Trump, but the Entire Republican Party which he had worshipped his entire life.........

[LakeArenal]

45. No not all of us. I never wavered in my support of Garland.

[DENVERPOPS]

66. I hope that

you are right!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the clock is running out, only three? months left until 2022 election.

As I remember, nailing Nixon for a comparatively relatively minor incident took a year and a half.......And the old guard republicans were somewhat on our side...........

Again, I hope you are right, LA

[LakeArenal]

67. I feel the timing may have been perfect with regard to the mid terms.

As well as the last Committee Hearings that are scheduled in Sept instead of August.

Time will tell. Meet you back here in November.

🤜🏻🤛🏻

[Mr.Bill]

72. I can't judge Mueller because

non of us have seen the Mueller report. We have only seen the Mueller report as redacted by William Barr.

[calimary]

28. Guilty as charged here, too.

I’ve been very impatient with him. Now I’m very gratified.

I’m VERY happy to be proved wrong. And frankly, I was hoping against hope that I WOULD be proved wrong.

Good on A.G. Garland.

[Ruby the Liberal]

34. Lots of us are right with you

I wasn't in the 'can him' camp, but definitely admit to being frustrated at the lack of any perceived action to hold this cabal responsible for their actions.

That needs to be reframed - it wasn't a lack of action out of DOJ, it was a lack of leaks.

[pwb]

3. I like him

and I trust the guy.

[RussBLib]

4. I have been impatient like many

But it appears the sun is breaking thru, finally.

Have to constrain my urge to dance. For now.

[Ocelot II]

5. Mary Trump called him a ninja.

[murielm99]

27. A gunslinger.

Per Stephen King.

[Brainfodder]

6. I wasn't one of them, I figured if Watergate was 2-3 years, THIS uh... patience required!

BUT.....

Arrest the SOB already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[brooklynite]

13. "When you strike at a king, you must kll him" -- Ralph Waldo Emerson

You can't indict Trump on the basis of "we know he's guilty". You have to have an iron-clad case that a Jury will accept. And you'll have only one chance to do it.

[Dorian Gray]

54. This is very true

but HOT DAMN its tough when we watched everything go down and WE KNOW HE'S GUILTY!

[LenaBaby61]

23. Same here. I never wavered because as you said look at how long Watergate took.

And with the things this gelatinous hog has done TO this country, we may never truly know the damage ....that's been done.

[Sogo]

46. ...gelatinous hog....

[calimary]

47. That's a beaut!

LenaBaby61 For the WIN!

“… gelatinous hog ….”

A prize-winner for sure!

And a statement of fact.

[Bleacher Creature]

8. Yep, been saying the same thing. Stuff like this doesn't leak from the DOJ.

At least so long as the AG isn't some partisan hack. Garland handled this perfectly.

[SheltieLover]

9. Eating crow will taste great as soon as the slob is in custody & ALL ruskie assets removed from ourg

Not that I was ever critical ofAG Garland! I was so happy when he was confirmed!

[Blue Owl]

10. I think it's safe to say, this ain't no Fitzmas...

[Trueblue Texan]

58. Nope...it's more like Thanksgiving eve...

The feast and the unwrapping of gifts have yet to coming, but come, they will.

[ancianita]

12. Exactly.

What I been talkin' 'bout for the last year.

[gordianot]

14. This may actually be worse than what we actually know today.

Given Trumps ever widening trajectory for criminal behavior the worst may be yet to come. How has he used this information? What is still missing?

[calimary]

48. Yep. This is just what we know NOW.

Heaven only knows what else there is.

Or maybe I should rephrase that.

It may be more factually accurate to say Hell only knows what else there is.

[gordianot]

52. Now they get to find out whose fingerprints are on the documents.

Someone printed this for Trump, organized and boxed it; what was their clearance? What is missing you cannot destroy Top Secret documents with out permission. Toilet flushing and eating paper are not good choices. How were documents selected to be retained? TFG’s life is not the only one about to get complicated here is hoping the air headed Trump Attorney who appeared on Fox gets a day with the Grand Jury.

[panader0]

15. I have always believed that justice would be done, but I admit to a lot of impatience.

Go Garland--he's in his prime right now.

[CatWoman]

16. ....

[iluvtennis]

20. Good one!!! (I miss Looney Toons) n/t

[Wounded Bear]

17. Our patience is being rewarded...

[iluvtennis]

18. Attorney General Merrick Garland is a badass!!! n/t

[wnylib]

19. I never doubted Garland for a few reasons.

First, I had faith (and still do) in Biden's determination to preserve our democracy and see justice done regarding Trump. Therefore, I trusted Biden's judgment in appointing Garland as AG.

Second, I looked up Garland's history, his past service as a prosecutor and lifelong service to Democratic members of Congress and his appointments in Democratic administrations. I knew that accusations about him being a Federalist were not true.

Third, I remember how long the Watergate investigation took. I remember that, immediately after the initial news report, nothing more was said about the break in for several months. It didn't break out into the open until the Congressional hearings, 2 years after the break in.

Fourth, I know from real life news reports and from fictitious TV, movie, and book stories about crimes that detectives and AG investigations do not reveal their information as they go along and for very good reasons. They do not want to tip off their suspects and the suspects' allies in advance of what they are doing. They do not want to give them a chance to hide evidence, fabricate excuses, go into hiding, etc. So I never bought into claims that the public has a right to know the details of an investigation. That claim is nonsense. We have a right to some transparency AFTER the investigations, when a suspect has been formally accused and charged. But we do not have a right to know the names of any informants for the protection of the informants and of the system. How many informants would come forward if they knew that their names would be made public and expose them to death threats?

I hope that current awareness of Garland's dedication and tight investigation makes us think more sensibly in the future about what goes on in investigations, justifiably without our knowledge.

[Joinfortmill]

33. Amen

[LetMyPeopleVote]

73. Garland is known for running a tight show with no leaks

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[grantcart]

21. I like Garland but the jury is out until we see prosecution

Not just Garland but all Federal Prosecutors are quick to sopeana/search warrant and slow to indict and prosecute.

Almost by definition they will prolong actual prosecution if more evidence is possible.

With conviction rates in the high 90s FP don't want to start trials until they have passed both preponderance of evidence and beyond a reasonable doubt to "fucking caught him with his hand in the safe with video, pictures, DNA, fingerprints, and confessions.

They will move quickly to get evidence but may not move on prosecution unless it's a slam dunk.

[former9thward]

22. Was someone arrested?

[Skittles]

38. again, you sound.....so disappointed

why is that?

[former9thward]

39. You sound so defensive.

Why is that? So when is your prediction?

[Skittles]

40. I am not defensive at ALL

I am very much enjoying watching that treasonous bastard sweat it out.

[ZZenith]

50. I am very much enjoying it as well!

Almost as much as I am enjoying seeing his poorly-cloaked acolytes lashing out in impotent rage on social media.

The ship is sinking fast and the rats are in a tizzy.

[Skittles]

69. I think there are a few here on DU, too

they try to fly under the radar

[ZZenith]

70. They are seemingly unaware

of our super-duper Doppler.

[JI7]

53. +

[DinahMoeHum]

25. Seems Garland and Biden are both virtually airtight. . .

Last edited Fri Aug 12, 2022, 06:43 PM - Edit history (1)

. . .when it comes to leaking information.

For starters, Biden (and, we presume, Garland) don't pit various parties against each other, don't play that sort of shit for sport. They're not in DC for power plays, they're there to preside over the people's business re governing and justice.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/03/25/why-trumps-white-house-leaked-and-bidens-hasnt-478081

[LetMyPeopleVote]

74. Garland prosecuted the Unabomber and Timothy Mcveigh with no leaks

[kacekwl]

26. I will eat the whole crow

once people are charged and arrested.

[Paladin]

65. +1000. (nt)

[RANDYWILDMAN]

29. Damn Garland, your are going down in history

for the right things !!!! not at my pace, but go man go !

LFG

[gab13by13]

30. It would be dereliction of duty had DOJ not acted,

one of the charges against Trump that is inferred was that he was destroying evidence, was destroying documents, most likely coming from a whistleblower. Time was of the essence to act, and to Garland's credit he acted.

[Jarqui]

31. I wasn't down on Garland

But I've been getting fidgety - worried they'll run out the clock.

I do not have the expectation that they'll put Trump behind bars - even though it is long overdue.

I feel Trump is just media fodder for DeSantis

A hope I have if they can pin enough on Trump and his enablers that it will help tip the election scales like it did when Nixon went down - particularly if Trump skips. Hopefully, there will be enough of a legitimate election process for that to happen (ie that the Republicans don't hijack it with all the crap they're doing at the state level).

[Joinfortmill]

32. Yup. Never doubted Joe Biden or Merrick Garland.

Two patriots through and through. That said, we are in the midst of a dangerous moment in our history. Buckle up.

[calimary]

59. Yep. Honorable men.

It was four-plus long years during which we were surrounded by dishonorable men - and women too. It became difficult to recognize the honorable ones.

Just one more thing President Biden restored. He’s never been motivated by some ulterior motivation.

[Mr. Evil]

35. I beg to differ.

I think it was a 1000 pound anvil.

[edhopper]

36. I was wrong as well

I did not think anything was happening. I am gleefully happy I was in error.

[ultralite001]

37. While the RTumpster may appear to be a dolt technically...

I have no doubt RTump knows how to use a shredder...

That is all...

[lunatica]

41. He did a good job of shutting down the naysayers too

You must always be careful, and wary, of the quiet ones.

[nycbos]

42. I was one of those people who thought that.

I was wrong.

[soldierant]

43. I couldn't help being impatient (I still am), but I never thought he was wrong for the job.

I like how Laerence puts it (and the glee with which he puts it):

[lees1975]

44. Hopefully Mitch McConnell is having trouble sleeping at night

over his decision to stonewall Obama's legitimate appointment and put Garland on the SCOTUS.

I will admit to having doubts, but also being taciturn. But I am committed to support Democrats in this administration which appears to be patiently, quietly and effectively doing the right thing.

The fact of the matter is that Trump is now poison, and the 2022 election is rapidly turning into a referendum on his monumental corruption. In spite of the rhetoric of surprise around Trump having to find out that the rule of law applies to him and America is not an autocracy, most Republicans wish he would go away. No Republican wants to be put in the position of having to defend why Donald Trump broke a law for which he specifically increased the penalty, and why they are defending his possession of any document he had on the premises. That is an untenable position and they know it.

Ignorance is the biggest enemy of American democracy, and it runs rampant now. But the turn this is taking, along with January 6th, and the reaction to the radicalism of the supreme court is all good news for Democrats, in spite of this being the midterm after an election when the party in power traditionally loses seats. I'm tired of hearing that and I'm looking forward to this being the first major exception to that in a long, long time.

[betsuni]

49. K&R

[Cha]

51. Mahalo.. I'm grateful that

I and others around here were right.

I believed AG Garland when he said "No one is above the law".. that means the Weasel Fuckface, too.. Domestic Terrorist Zero.

[sheshe2]

79. He is an amazing man, Cha.

https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2016/04/18/ap810755597019_custom-278b3ec872b448ce2da05814a0849599e8da76da-s1600-c85.webp

For some reason I can't post the image of a very young Merrick Garland. This was from the McVeigh trial.

Take a look at the link.

[Cha]

80. Oh Thank You for that Picture of a Young

Garland, she! And, here we are 25 years later... and he's stilll Doing his JOB!

[sheshe2]

81. One amazing man

One amazing man with a history of hard work to get the job done.

[bucolic_frolic]

55. He will be remembered to history as among the greatest and most significant AG's

Partly due to the issues he faced but also because of his depth and understanding of the office he holds in an historical sense.

[867-5309.]

56. I was/am concerned about the amount of time passing

The longer we go without a charge against TFG, the less likely it ever happens.

The raid is a positive, tangible sign for sure. But I'm not ready to say 'it's finally happened'.

[Torchlight]

63. Sounds serious.

[Hotler]

57. Still too early for crow. The man and his henchmen are still walking free.

Send up a flare when you see them wearing orange jump suits. I'll start setting a plate and lining up bottles of Tabasco.

[Saoirse9]

60. I never suspected

that the AG was keeping mum about charges that would end 45 forever. I knew that orange man was perfectly capable of stealing or selling national security secrets but had no idea he was actually doing it in real time.

Garland knew though.

He's a ninja. His polite calm demeanor belies a steely determination. He's the toughest AG I can remember in my life time.

Looks and speaks like a nebbish, acts like a ninja.

[Scrivener7]

61. If this whole thing turns out to have been a sting operation, I'll agree with you.

If it is not, what all this actually shows is that we have REALLY big problems in the DOJ, the FBI, and every other department that has anything to do with our national security.

Right now, we are missing big pieces of this story.

So once again, I will say what I have said all along. We will know when we know, and I'll believe that tfg will be prosecuted when I see tfg prosecuted.

To that I'll add, I really hope this was a sting operation, because if it isn't our espionage people and our allies' espionage people are in grave danger, if they aren't already dead.

[sheshe2]

71. I have always had faith in Garland.

I judged him by his history of accomplishments:

Merrick Garland's 'flawless' work in Oklahoma City crucial in white supremacy fight

The message was a stark one. “America is in serious decline,” the person wrote. “Is a civil war imminent? Do we have to shed blood to reform the current system? I hope it doesn’t come to that! But it might.”

It reads like an entry on a message board popular with the insurrectionists who broke into the US Capitol on 6 January – expressing a sentiment at once shocking and shockingly routine in 2021 America.

But the words are from 1992 America, written in a letter to a newspaper by Timothy McVeigh, who three years later would carry out the Oklahoma City bombing, the deadliest incident of domestic terrorism in US history. An anti-government, white supremacist army veteran, McVeigh set off a truck bomb underneath a day care facility in a federal building, killing 168 people including 19 children.

The attack spawned the largest criminal case in US history. With conspiracy theories threatening the public trust even in those relatively innocent times for the truth, and the contemporaneous murder trial of OJ Simpson having fed widespread disillusionment with the American justice system, federal prosecutors knew that they would be working under a microscope.

But the lead prosecutor dispatched by Washington to Oklahoma a day after the bombing, Merrick Garland, demonstrated a particularly honed sense for what the investigation required and how to deliver it, according to former colleagues.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/feb/01/merrick-garland-oklahoma-city-timothy-mcveigh-attorney-general


The calm quiet manner he has shown. Also the faith Obama put in him and McConnell's hatred of him were tipping points for me.

Yes, it is a sting operation far larger and more complicated than Oklahoma ever was. We have heard there were payroll documents for our espionage people, they most likely have already been outed, perhaps dead. We don't know, may never know, as they were under deep cover. Our national security secrets, most likely have already been bought and pain for.

Every door the DOJ opens, a hundred more trump traitors fall out. Frankly I don't see this tied up before the election, it is incredibly complex and the players intertwined. The evil is in our house and senate, it is from the top down and they all need to pay the price for their treachery.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

75. I have had faith in Garland also

The Oklahoma Bombing and the Unabomber cases are two good examples of Garland's professionalism

[sheshe2]

77. Thanks, LMPV.

Question for you while you are here.

Kinda OT

IF tfg goes to trial for these charges, I assume it is Federal Court. So a jury of his peers? How do they find a jury and alternates that know nothing about tfg. How do they weed out trumpers? Is it possible for them to find a fair and balanced jury?

Frankly I think he should be tried at the Hague for crimes against humanity. His crimes are here primarily yet have benefited our enemies around the world, not in a good way.

[Cha]

78. Mahalo, she.. AG Garland's History

Earned our Trust along with his address to the Nation that "No One Is ABove".. anyone could understand that meant DT, Too.

Thank You for the history lesson!

[Scrivener7]

82. I don't think we are talking about the same thing. I am saying I hope the

presence of the documents at MOL is part of a DOJ sting against tfg. I am saying I hope they knew all along the papers were there and wanted to see what he was going to do with them, but they were always in control of the documents. Or the documents were somehow fakes.

We have no idea yet if it was a sting operation. There has been no information to say it was, and frankly it seems unlikely to me that it was. But it is the only scenario that does not point to a complete failure of our national security apparatus, so I fervently hope that we learn soon that it was a sting.

If we learn that it was NOT a sting operation by the DOJ against tfg, it means that our most damaging national secrets have been unsecured in a hotel basement for 18 months.

If that is the case, this is not a good thing. This is not a success on anyone's part. It represents an astonishing failure by every organization charged with our national security, including the FBI and the DOJ.

[housecat]

62. I am so relieved that I was so wrong about him

[lastlib]

64. I sincerely hope he can replicate those feats.

That's the person we need!

[Brainfodder]

68. When the needle goes in, don't be TOO gentle, OK?

I'm OK if his goes horribly wrong, like paralysis without anesthesia wrong as long as recorded in HD ya know for archival purposes?

[LetMyPeopleVote]

76. I have had faith in both President Joe Biden and AG Garland

This is a difficult situation in that Garland is having to rebuild the DOJ. I remember the problems that AG Holder and Deputy AG Tom Perez had rebuilding the DOJ civil rights section after 8 years of W's efforts to destroy this section. Assholes like Christian Adams who was the idiot who pushed the "New Black Panther" silliness. Adams was from a third-tier law school and could never have been hired by the DOJ in normal circumstances.

Link to tweet

Christian Adams was a member of TFG's bogus voter fraud panel that found no voter fraud and is still defending voting suppression groups like True the Vote.

Garland has had to clean up the DOJ and get good people in like Gupta. I have confidence in AG Garland and I am not surprised at the actions taken this week

I also like the actions taken by the DOJ with regards to the recent civil rights prosecutions. Garland is a good man and is going a good job at the DOJ