Who helped him? Who else had access to these documents? Were they signed out? If documents were

[Raven]

collected over a period of time, where were they stored at the WH? Did Trump steal originals or were copies made and, if so, who copied the documents? Who was working in the White House who might have seen this activity? When and where were they collected and boxed for a move to MAL and who collected and boxed them? Were documents grabbed willy nilly, or were they carefully and systematically collected with a specific purpose in mind? If some of the top secret documents were about nukes, were they ever shown to Trump and if so, who was involved in that?

He had to have had help and this must have been planned.

I am going to bet that the DOJ knows most of the answers to these questions.

[blm]

1. And they've probably known for over a year.

Tracking those involved all along.

[ariadne0614]

2. I fervently hope this is true. n/t

[SheltieLover]

5. +1,000,000!!!

[Scrivener7]

19. If it's not true, there could be a lot of dead US and allied spies out there.

[hlthe2b]

3. remember he replaced as many of the leadership of military and homeland security at the end

that he could... Kash Patel would be on the list, for sure. I could only hope that Stephen Miller's fingerprints were all over it as well.

[Nevilledog]

4. Meadows, Solomon, and Patel.

To start.

[usonian]

6. Like that library book you borrowed years ago ...

Each document had to be signed out as part of the audit trail .... until it stopped being signed for.

Then again, who's to say that any normal procedures were followed?

But the field is kind of narrow.

[Skittles]

7. you ask great questions

I too know that Trump isn't capable of planning ANYTHING on his own, he always has help to do his dirty work.

[PatSeg]

23. And he certainly didn't pack all that stuff himself

There was no way he was capable of identifying, procuring, and packing that many documents. There had to be numerous people involved, which is probably why they are testing the documents for fingerprints. I think this story is going to get a whole lot bigger. There must be a bunch of really nervous people out there.

[crickets]

25. Exactly. He needed people who knew which papers to pack. nt

[PatSeg]

27. And then he needed people

to do the actual physical packing. It all would have been very time-consuming and they would have to do it when there weren't many people around. Even then, there were bound to be witnesses. I really can't imagine how he pulled it off.

[bluestarone]

8. Maybe some future suicides coming?

Wouldn't surprise me.

[malaise]

9. The subpoenaed surveillance video should help

Lock him up!

[haele]

10. TS/SCI documents required SCIF access. Who got them for him?

Because you know TFG would never have waddled his way into a n somehow unsecured and unmanned SCIF; logged into a minimum two process authentication access computer to printed out documents and spirit them out of the place - even from the White House SCIF.

Haele

[Raven]

13. Bingo! That's what I was trying to get at and you just laid it out perfectly! The other thing

that strikes me is that this theft was not done for patriotic purposes. It was done for money.

[PatSeg]

24. Exactly

Even if he was capable of doing all that, he is too damn lazy and distracted.

[GuppyGal]

11. The Pussy Tape didn't get him ....I hope these documents surely will

[Scrivener7]

12. According to John Brennan (ex CIA chief) on Velshi, this goes way beyond "signing out."

No one seems to be getting the immensity the operation to steal these documents would have to be.

According to Brennan, those top secret documents are the kind where you have to go to a federal building, then go into a secure room within the federal building - the SCIF. You take nothing in with you. They check you to make sure you have no pens or paper or anything else on you that might allow you to take notes or copy the document. Then they bring you the documents. You read them inside the secure room. Then you hand them back, they check you again and they make sure you have given back all the docs they gave you.

This isn't a "sign out" issue. This is: which career document handler was absolutely corrupted? How many of his or her colleagues had to be corrupted too, in order to get those documents out of the building? What protocols at the absolutely highest level of our national security - the level that protects our nuclear information and protects all our espionage people from being murdered - were violated?

And btw: if he did what we think he did with those documents, lots of those espionage people are dead now.

[Raven]

14. Did Brennan say anything about what he thinks the DOJ knows at this point?

[Scrivener7]

17. I don't remember that he did.

[FarPoint]

15. So, who signed them out last?

When did they lose an accurate sign out trail? I sense there must be video 24/7....

[Scrivener7]

16. This exactly. That's the thing that makes no sense.

a) did we not know they were missing? If not, how can that be?
b) did we not know who had them? If we didn't, how can that be?
c) given what you describe, it seems like they would be easily tracked down. If so, why have they been left sitting, unsecured, in a hotel basement for 18 months?

It really just doesn't track. We are missing a big piece of the picture.

[crickets]

20. There's the rub. There was no way to just sneak the papers out without help.

if he did what we think he did with those documents, lots of those espionage people are dead now.

That bothers me just as much as any threat to nuclear secrets. How dare anyone sell out agents this way?

[Scrivener7]

21. And if our national security is so lax, why would any other country trust us with their secrets?

[crickets]

22. They wouldn't, which is another reason why this cannot be swept under the rug.

There is no amount of "you shouldn't have done that" finger-wagging that will cover it. Indictments and convictions are required, or we will be seen as the country no longer capable of properly managing our own affairs.

[Lars39]

18. My wishlist includes Jared, Ivanka, Stephen Miller, Bannon.

[Meowmee]

26. Yes

We are asking these questions too. If these were documents that could not be normally taken out of wherever they were stored etc. he had help.