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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI would wager many, if not all, of the Moar-B-Loco docs were scanned or photographed...
and could have been sent who knows where or are being held as future ammo for espionage or blackmail. Hell, they were not safe or secure while in the White House during TFG's stay and also were fair game for all sorts of crooks and spies while in Florida.
Other guesses and questions:
1. When shipped from Washington, could the boxes have been intentionally mislabeled (say, as tRump business documents) in order to conceal their content?
2. Isn't there an existing protocol controlling everything that leaves the White House? It was evident from the start that TFG and his team would not respect any laws, rules, norms or standards.
3. Can the Secret Service be compelled to reveal anything they observed relating to the movement of these documents and any activities around them after arriving in Florida?
4. Are these original documents and the only existing copies, or are the originals still in D.C.? I was under the impression that all documents, event records and transcripts during any administration is supposed to be immediately archived in a safe, secure place.
5. Surely the originals of any classified documents found in Florida are still secure in Washington!
6. I wonder if there are ways to determine what documents are missing from the original shipments.
I hope President Biden and Congress take firm steps during this administration to insure this can never happen again.
KY rant done.....
OAITW r.2.0
(24,694 posts)ended up in Trump's basement. Trump had help. Who else broke the law?
Tetrachloride
(7,878 posts)1. Who helped
2. Will Jared testify
Irish_Dem
(47,552 posts)Yes Trump had help in this huge heist of top secret documents.
jmbar2
(4,911 posts)Trump is not a paperwork kind of guy. Someone made a list of what to take.
DJT's extent would have been to tell someone to grab this or that, whatever his dotard's noggin could recall. But it wouldn't have been detailed or extensive.
keep_left
(1,793 posts)I recall that a lot of staff began departing toward the end of the Drumpf regime. Only a skeleton crew of true believers remained.
Irish_Dem
(47,552 posts)The person would have been:
Someone with experience working with the enemy.
Close ties to Putin.
Very familiar with covert operations.
Very familiar with military secret intel.
Just guessing but Gen Mike Flynn fits the bill.
FalloutShelter
(11,890 posts)They are fucked.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)And send the photocopy to whomever or hold for future extortion... And let the real document go through the hoops.
In actuality it's not the piece of paper it's the information on that piece of paper.
Oh geez, coulda just uncovered their defense sorry.
Irish_Dem
(47,552 posts)He is crazy enough to think that might work out for him.
Or the value must have been in having the originals. Top dollar paid only for originals, not copies.
If you are going to sell, extort, blackmail or leverage in a very big way you need the originals.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,498 posts)Any or all could have been destroyed, lost, sold, copied or scanned or even modified with no one to object.
We may never know what their motives were, whether to sell to crooks or collectors, to use for espionage or bribery or just to have as leverage against future tRump enemies or to seize for his presidential library.
They may have even been stupid enough to think that taking possession of the papers might hide evidence that could be used for future prosecution of say, election-related crimes (and has that notion ever backfired).
Regardless, we can bet the reasons were nefarious.....
Irish_Dem
(47,552 posts)Van drivers stopped to eat, sleep, etc.
We have no idea if any of the boxes were missing by the time the trucks got to Fla.