Video of fully armed MAGAts outside FBI offices.

[Progressive Lawyer]

[mopinko]

1. how hard can it be to round these clowns up, they wear f'ing uniforms.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

9. Unfortunately they're not doing anything illegal,

here in AZ, we have "constitutional and open carry" so they're not breaking any laws.

[mopinko]

12. doesnt mean local leo cant keep and eye on them.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

13. Oh I've no doubt that the FBI knows exactly who these MAGAt's are

and there are FBI snipers watching them very closely.

[spanone]

2. all four of them?

fuckem

[Skittles]

3. gun humping COWARDS

FUCK THEM

[GoCubsGo]

4. Meal Team 6 is ready for battle.

Good Gawd.

[AggressiveCanary]

43. Meal Team 6

I like that one.

I wonder if they have steak.

[GoCubsGo]

44. I think it was Malcolm Nance who came up with that one.

At least, he's the first one I heard using it.

They might have steak, but I suspect that their diets consist of white bread, potatoes, and processed crap.

[BlueLucy]

5. They have no idea how stupid they look, do they? nt

[sinkingfeeling]

6. Arizona? They get to play dress-up again.

[doc03]

7. A city the size of Phoenix and only a couple dozen MAGAts can show up

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for their protest. What a bunch of losers.

[doc03]

49. Not the city of Pheonix the couple dozen

MAGA losers.

[orthoclad]

8. They need Freedom Fingers

Worked with the People's Convoy when they assaulted cities.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

10. 82nd Chairborne Division reporting for duty........

wait, where's everybody else?

Pathetic morons.

[Roland99]

15. "Chairborne"

lmao!

[CanonRay]

11. Whoever made the banner must be an FBI plant

It's spelled right.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

14. Yeah, like the Nazi Brownshirts thought...

... they were good for Germany too.

[DFW]

16. I wish the agents in the building would get on a loudspeaker

I wish they would tell the Trumpanzees to disarm and disperse, give them 5 seconds to comply, and then take out each one with a gun with sniper fire if they don't. it's only a matter of time before some of these nut cases turn out to be a deadly menace to the public nearby, who have every right to expect law enforcement to protect them from armed thugs.

[The Magistrate]

17. Sooner Or Later, Sir, That Will Have To Happen

Put bluntly, it ought to have happened at the Michigan Capitol two years back. We'd not be near where we are if it had.


"Kill one, warn one hundred."

[DFW]

19. It is unfortunate

But I agree fully.

We don't bring heavy firearms to a debate. They do. They have now started demonstrating that some of them intend to use them.

Even one is one too many.

[shrike3]

27. You're right. About the Michigan Capitol. n/t

[MarineCombatEngineer]

18. Uhhh, you do know that open carry is perfectly legal here in AZ?

You would have FBI agents shooting citizens for doing something that's legal under AZ law?

I understand your frustrations, but shooting law abiding citizens is not the answer.

[DFW]

20. At some point, a line is crossed

Even in open carry states, unprovoked threats to the public and against law enforcement are not perfectly legal. What these people were doing goes beyond peaceful bearing of arms. It is a direct threat against the Bureau.

Driving a car is perfectly legal in Arizona. Driving a car into a crowd of people is not. Driving a car in a reckless, seemingly threatening manner is not. It is one thing to be prepared in case of trouble. It is quite another to be the instigator of that trouble. It doesn't take a PhD in criminology to distinguish between the two. If a guy is carrying an assault rifle on the street in downtown Phoenix, no assumptions can be readily made. If he steps into an elementary school with it, assumptions CAN be made. These clowns were not casual passers-by whose paths just happened to converge in front of a Bureau installation at the same time.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

24. Again, what laws are they violating?

The law is the law and here in AZ, open carry is legal, I live here in AZ, this is not unusual to see and suggesting the FBI give them 5 seconds to disarm, which again, would be unlawful, or they will be shot would be murder, especially if all they're doing is protesting.

I wouldn't worry too much about those jackwagons, I'm quite sure the FBI is keeping a close watch on them and are ready for any attempted attack upon the building.

[DFW]

33. What law? A congregation of armed men, with anti-FBI posters and assault weapons

I'd say there is a good case for a violation of A.R.S. section 13-1202, "threatening or intimidating"

This would be the SAC's judgment, of course, but in light of recent events in Ohio, this would be fresh in his/her mind.

Again, this was not a coincidental gathering but a deliberate confrontation. If I were SAC and saw that outside my building, knowing the threat was directed at me or my subordinates, I would not automatically assume they meant no harm. Especially these days.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

34. And once again,

the Feds have no jurisdiction over them, they are on public property, not Fed. property, this is for local police and they can't do anything other than watch them, cops can't even make them show ID, AZ is not a stop and ID state.

As long as those jackwagons remain on public property protesting, they are well within their right to protest and there's nothing local police or the Feds can do about it.

What part of they're not breaking the law do you not understand?

[ShazzieB]

46. ARS 13-1202 is an AZ state law, not a federal one.

Here's how one Arizona law firm explains it:
https://www.salwinlaw.com/criminal-defense/assault/threatening-or-intimidating-ars-13-1202/

IANAL, but I think DFW may have a point.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

48. Look, the reason the cops didn't move in is because the MAGAt's weren't breaking the law,

but you can bet the farm that they were ready to move in in force if they did break the law.

This whole convo started because one member here wanted the FBI to get on a bullhorn and order them to drop their weapons and if they didn't comply withing 5 seconds, then they would be shot,
which would result in the agents being charged with various crimes and the resulting unrest it would cause and it would give the repukes in Congress a golden gift just before the mid terms.

[The Magistrate]

23. I Expect A Federal Statute Could Be Rustled Up From the Books, Sir

It needs only the color of law for immediate action, and the vainglory of the 'militia' can be relied on to provide pretext for deadly force.

This is going to have to be broken. A state which cannot enforce and maintain a monopoly on legitimate use of violence for political purposes is not a state at all, merely one more competing interest.



"Mad or sane, rebels must hang. Your Excellency knows this."

[MarineCombatEngineer]

25. They're not on Federal property,

so the Feds have no jurisdiction over them, it would be up to local police, and they're not going to do anything except watch them, because again, these jackwagons aren't violating any state law.

[The Magistrate]

26. They Menace Federal Officers, Sir

Besides, the point, as it so often is, is simply to do it, and make the enemy catch up to what's happened.

Federal officers emerging under arms from the building, commanding dispersal, will not be resisted by local police, and if resisted by the insurrectionists, can break the resistance.

For make no mistake, a body gathered under arms to menace a government facility and personnel are engaged in insurrection.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

29. And guess what

If armed Feds came onto state property, IE public property and dispersed them by force, then they can be arrested and sued civilly for violating their civil rights, it has happened quite often with the Feds/officers being reprimanded and or fired and criminally charged.

And I can pretty well guarantee that if the Feds came out to state property and tried to disperse them, the Phoenix Police would intervene and tell the Feds to get back on their own property and leave law enforcement to local police, the Feds are not very well liked here in Phoenix.

Heres a question, suppose the protesters refused to leave PUBLIC PROPERTY, then what? The Feds can't arrest them, they don't have jurisdiction.

I know, i live here.

[The Magistrate]

30. Not Immediately, Sir

And no, local police are not going to shoot it out with Federals. That's the kind of big man down the bar bluster that needs to be punctured.

It's the immediate effect which matters, consequences can be managed, even made to go away, when they are incurred in the government's interest.

What is necessary is to show these people nobody's playing anymore, that their cosplay ends in blood. Takes the fun out of the thing. Weeds the amateurs out, leaves just a few ugly clots of hard core exposed without a trace of cover.

It's going to have to be done sooner or later, and the longer it is put off, the worse will be the head it comes to.


"Violence solves very little, but what it does solve nothing else can."

[MarineCombatEngineer]

31. I never said anything about local police shooting it out with the FBI,

that's ridiculous, but the local police here in AZ would tell the FBI agents to get back on their property and leave local law enforcement to them and the Feds couldn't do jack shit about it, just like they can't do jack shit about the protesters on public property, which these jackwagons are on.

The FBI can't even get ID's from the protesters, and neither can the local cops as long as no laws are being violated.

[DFW]

35. Indeed, consider it rustled.

A.R.S. section 13-1202

It is somewhat vague, and could be interpreted in a number of ways, one of which could be that the armed thugs "meant no harm." But the congregation of similarly armed people in the same place blaring the same message does not exactly inspire a sense of security in the ones inside the building. The incident in Ohio is certainly fresh in the mind of every senior Bureau installation chief, and the armed gang outside had to know that, whether or not they feigned ignorance about the incident.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

36. You just don't get it do you,

they're NOT ON FEDERAL PROPERTY, the Feds have no jurisdiction over them, they're not breaking any AZ law.

[roamer65]

21. I would have no problem with these scumbags being "disappeared".

[WarGamer]

22. they seem nice

[JanMichael]

28. They should fly a couple of those armed drones over them.

Just to let them know what's up if they want to fuck up.

[OAITW r.2.0]

32. I just see a bunch of mal-adjusted anti-socialists.

We used to help them back in the 60's with medicines to deal with their anti-psychotics incidences.

[maxrandb]

37. If you want an example of how "effed" up our gun culture is

or, if you want to see what is wrong with this shit, light a box of firecrackers and toss it near them.

[Emile]

38. Willingness to die for a con man is

a new level stupidity!

[BSdetect]

39. So tired of these dupes.

[HAB911]

41. i will not live in fear!

[Vinca]

42. OMG - don't these idiots have any idea how stupid they look?

Big, bad tough guys strutting around with their weapons. Young women Trump would deride as fat skanks. Old people who are living off demon socialist Social Security. What a bunch.

[Owl]

45. Fools, all of them idiotic fools.

[ShazzieB]

47. What a bunch of flea-brained thugs. 😠

[AntiFascist]

50. khaki pants, white shirt and camo mask... looks like Patriot Front, only armed this time n/t

[roamer65]

51. Target practice for the FBI sharpshooters.

My money is on the people in the black helicopters with sniper rifles.