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RandySF

(58,366 posts)
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 10:27 PM Aug 2022

In a Post-Roe World, the Future of Digital Privacy Looks Even Grimmer

Welcome to the post-Roe era of digital privacy, a moment that underscores how the use of technology has made it practically impossible for Americans to evade ubiquitous tracking.

In states that have banned abortion, some women seeking out-of-state options to terminate pregnancies may end up following a long list of steps to try to shirk surveillance — like connecting to the internet through an encrypted tunnel and using burner email addresses — and reduce the likelihood of prosecution.

Even so, they could still be tracked. Law enforcement agencies can obtain court orders for access to detailed information, including location data logged by phone networks. And many police departments have their own surveillance technologies, like license plate readers.

That makes privacy-enhancing tools for consumers seem about as effective as rearranging the furniture in a room with no window drapes.

“There’s no perfect solution,” said Sinan Eren, an executive at Barracuda, a security firm. “Your telecom network is your weakest link.”

In other words, the state of digital privacy is already so far gone that forgoing the use of digital tools altogether may be the only way to keep information secure, security researchers said. Leaving mobile phones at home would help evade the persistent location tracking deployed by wireless carriers. Payments for prescription drugs and health services would ideally be made in cash. For travel, public transportation like a bus or a train would be more discreet than ride-hailing apps.



https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/13/technology/personaltech/abortion-privacy-roe-surveillance.html

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In a Post-Roe World, the Future of Digital Privacy Looks Even Grimmer (Original Post) RandySF Aug 2022 OP
Realistically... Ollie Garkie Aug 2022 #1
Imprisoned for murder, for years Arazi Aug 2022 #2
And this Court is just getting started orthoclad Aug 2022 #3
All we can do EnergizedLib Aug 2022 #4
Protect your privacy and help others to protect theirs. usonian Aug 2022 #5
Roe your vote up and down the ballot ... Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2022 #6

Ollie Garkie

(185 posts)
1. Realistically...
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 10:42 PM
Aug 2022

How batshit crazy are the prosecutions for abortion really going to get? Not that this doesn't all sound pretty fucking scary.

EnergizedLib

(1,889 posts)
4. All we can do
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 11:20 PM
Aug 2022

Is push back, a la Kansas. If states won’t put it up for a vote, vote forced birthers out.

usonian

(9,658 posts)
5. Protect your privacy and help others to protect theirs.
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 11:51 PM
Aug 2022

Until this unconstitutional bullshit is knocked down.


Trusted sources for abortion information.
https://democraticunderground.com/100216891804
Digital Security and Privacy Tips for Those Involved in Abortion Access
https://democraticunderground.com/100216837332
The Hitchhiker’s Guide to Online Anonymity
https://anonymousplanet-ng.org/

When people let one "little" breach of the constitution after another slide, AND DON'T STAND UP TO INJUSTICE we all lose.

I posted recently:

I *HATE* to go negative on Facebook, but:
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/facebook-turned-chat-messages-mother-daughter-now-charged-abortion-rcna42185
Facebook turned over chat messages between mother and daughter now charged over abortion

Facebook turned over the chats of a mother and her daughter to Nebraska police after they were served with a warrant as part of an investigation into an illegal abortion, court documents show.



If we expect jurors to nullify unconstitutional laws against abortion (because, IMO, they establish one religion's beliefs as law, against other religions who do not share that belief,) then companies SHOULD REFUSE warrants based on blatantly unconstitutional laws.

BUT THEY DON'T
Zuckerberg, roast in hell.


As for nullification, STANDING UP TO TYRANNY is the RIGHT THING TO DO.
And "going with the flow" puts you, your company, in the company of cowards and "compliants" that tyrants need.


https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217012489
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/08/roe-v-wade-how-to-keep-women-who-have-abortions-from-going-to-prison.html
The One Thing People Can Do to Keep Anyone Who Has an Abortion Out of Prison
Restoring the rights lost in Dobbs will require massive political mobilization–far more than any one person could possibly achieve. But one person is all it takes to stave off at least some of the most devastating harms of criminalization. A single juror’s vote of “not guilty” can spare a defendant—any potential parent, doctor, friend, or anyone else prosecuted and brought to trial—from criminal conviction. Regardless of the strength of the evidence. Regardless of what the judge believes. Regardless of how many other jurors disagree. It’s every juror’s super-power.

Jury nullification–or the power of jurors to vote to acquit even in the face of overwhelming evidence–is rooted in English common law and has been an American tradition since before the nation’s founding. For instance, in 1735, a journalist and printer named John Peter Zenger was charged with libel for publishing articles critical of New York’s colonial governor. Zenger did not deny publishing the articles. Instead, he argued that they were true. Although “truth” was not a valid defense to libel at the time, he asked the jury to acquit him on that ground nonetheless. They did. Other examples of nullification abound. Juries nullified prosecutions of abolitionists charged under the Fugitive Slave Act and businesspeople charged with alcohol-trafficking during Prohibition.


https://reason.com/2022/08/05/he-was-arrested-for-promoting-jury-nullification-a-federal-court-says-that-was-illegal/
He Was Arrested for Promoting Jury Nullification. A Federal Court Says That Was Illegal.

http://www.dorfonlaw.org/2022/05/nullification-in-abortion-prosecutions.html
Nullification in Abortion Prosecutions

Five Justices are poised to disrupt a half century of expectations, and there is little political recourse. It is precisely in such cases that the jury can serve as a bulwark against the injustices of the state(s).

Update, they did.


I'll promote this to a thread.


Hermit-The-Prog

(33,227 posts)
6. Roe your vote up and down the ballot ...
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 03:05 AM
Aug 2022

Roe, Roe, Roe your vote
against theocracy!
Republicans revoke your rights
and kill democracy!

The radicalized Republican party seeks permanent, total control. Vote or submit.

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