Guess whose passports the FBI now has

[Novara]

Link to tweet

So he can't flee even if he wants to. Well, unless a corrupt government gives him refuge.

[Beetwasher.]

1. Wow, They Already Confiscated His Passport????

Does that mean he's been formally notified he's a target?

[LeftInTX]

5. I think this is BS

[KPN]

8. I wouldn't be surprised. The bloated bastard is 100% pure BS 24/7.

[tecelote]

86. Passports

"...they stole my three Passports (one expired)"

What are the two valid passports? USA & Russia?

[Zeitghost]

116. I would assume

He has his normal passport and a diplomatic passport issued when he was President.

[inthewind21]

115. NO

Trump claims they did but the FBIsays no. And they aren't listed on the things taken. He's full of shit.

[Beetwasher.]

128. Others Disagree with you

https://mobile.twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1559249518566297603?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1559249518566297603%7Ctwgr%5E7336f9d641e344e6e2f7fbaf67c9955e3396cf7d%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailykos.com%2Fstory%2F2022%2F8%2F15%2F2116829%2F-Mr-Trump-claims-the-FBI-lifted-3-of-his-Passports-one-of-them-expired-Is-Trump-a-flight-risk

[LeftInTX]

2. Trump still has his passport. He has not been indicted.

This is BS.
If they took it because it was in one of the boxes, they will return it.

Has his passport been revoked?
Or did he lose it?

[Beetwasher.]

6. Don't Be So Sure

The FBI would not screw up like that, especially not in this case. It sounds like they confiscated his passport(s), and this is HIS spin on it to get in front of the news.

[LeftInTX]

7. His passport would be revoked if that's the case

Would need a court order, not a search warrant

[Beetwasher.]

10. Revoked? Uhh, No

He's not found guilty yet, why would it be revoked? But I do believe they confiscate passports of targets who may flee.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

19. That doesn't require any sort of court order or similar, though?

Seems like it wouldn't be entirely up to the FBI to just say, on their own, we're taking your physical passport(s) cause you're under investigation?

Or can they? I honestly don't know ...

[Beetwasher.]

27. If He's a Target and a Flight Risk

I think they can confiscate the passport. There may be a court order involved, but we wouldn't see it unless Trump releases it, it's probably sealed if there is one.

[Novara]

31. the FBI can revoke a passport but they don't have to make that info public.

Remember the FBI tried to conduct this search quietly, but the bloated piece of shit with his victimhood complex spilled the beans to the public.

[Beetwasher.]

33. They Would Confiscate it I believe, Not Revoke Unless Convicted

or perhaps indicted.

[LeftInTX]

29. Court order...criminals run around with their passports, the govt cancels them so they can't leave

Happens alot.

But we do it with lots of criminals. They are already on the run, trying to avoid being arrested and have their passports on them. So, they get a court order.

The physical passport is just that...Trump could say, "I lost my passport" and apply for another one. If the passport has been revoked/cancelled then he can't get a replacement. If it hasn't, he can get a new passport.

[Beetwasher.]

32. No, They Don't, They Will Confiscate Them

There's due process, they don't just cancel or revoke your passport before your even charged with anything, but they do confiscate it if your a targete. After Indictment or Conviction may be a different story.

[LeftInTX]

42. How do they confiscate a passport when that person is on the lam?

They revoked Snowden's passport, even though it was still in his possession.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-security-passport/u-s-revokes-snowdens-passport-official-source-idUSBRE95M0CW20130623
(Reuters) - The United States has revoked the passport of former national security contractor Edward Snowden, an official source familiar with the decision said on Sunday.

It was not immediately clear how Snowden was able to travel, and the official offered no details. An aircraft thought to be carrying him landed in Moscow on Sunday after Hong Kong let the former U.S. National Security Agency contractor leave the territory, despite Washington’s efforts to extradite him to face espionage charges

[joshcryer]

18. There could be a sealed indictment mind you.

Which is waiting to be executed since they just got a new trove of evidence against him.

But, grain of freaking salt, Trump gets away with everything and until he's been found guilty by a jury I will not keep my hopes up.

[LeftInTX]

23. Many times they don't take the physical passport, so I call BS

If someone is on the run, the govt can't obtain the passport. They cancel it.

[Captain Zero]

97. He could just have a Russkie Oligarch fly him out

No problemo.

[LiberalFighter]

100. If he has passports because of status as president

FBI wouldn't need court authority beyond what they already have.

[LeftInTX]

102. Yes, he would need to get a regular old passport like us commoners

Don't know why they took his expired passport too
Who would want that???

[LiberalFighter]

105. Maybe they plan to send it back to him by sewer.

[LiberalFighter]

120. They likely weren't sorting and picking specific items.

If it looked like a possible item. Take it and if not within the scope return it.

It is all on TFG to NOT remove government docs to begin with.

[LeftInTX]

121. That's what I wondering. I can't imagine them sorting and picking through all of those boxes etc.

It would have taken more than 8 hrs.

[LiberalFighter]

124. Right. And more than likely they which passports are regular

And which are government.

[pwb]

3. Is he talking to himself?

He should be.

[Ferrets are Cool]

4. No, numbnuts, they didn't STEAL them.

Fucking idiot.

[dweller]

9. 3 passports? 1 expired

1- John Bannon
1- Pisswig


✌🏻

[lastlib]

14. Does that include his Russian passport?

asking for a friend.

[WinstonSmith4740]

63. Was just wondering the same thing.

Why does someone need 3 passports?

[Recursion]

99. Lots of people have multiple passports

If you have work that takes you to, e.g., both Israel and Egypt, you need two passports because Egypt won't process a passport with an Israeli entry stamp in it. Ditto PRC and Taiwan, India and Pakistan, and a dozen other hot spots. Also I'm pretty sure the President gets a black or light blue passport as part of his job (the light blue is a laissez-passer rather than a passport, technically, but they're essentially the same thing); that's probably the expired one.

[Grasswire2]

11. bogus

He sounds scared.

[wnylib]

52. He sounds to me like he is ramping up

RW rage. The FBI might or might not have his passports if they were in the materials taken from MAL. But it might not be cancelled.

Or they might not have it at all.

I think he is 1) ramping up RW rage, and 2) playing a game with DOJ to find out if his passport is valid because he is ready to flee if he thinks he will be arrested.

But he could find out easily enough if he applied for a new one. So this comment from TFG sounds like a rage instigator.

[Grasswire2]

79. well, there's a thought

trying to play DoJ re: passport validity.

[sop]

12. Very interesting. Trump keeps his passport in the same place as the stolen classified documents.

[progressoid]

17. Or it was in the safe.

[wnylib]

53. Probably. The safe makes sense.

[sop]

66. The tweet stated passports were in the boxes, but his safe would be the most likely place.

Unless he was planning a quick getaway.

[wnylib]

72. I suppose he might have had his passports

in a box with SCI documents, intending to flee with them.

However, Trump is not a reliable source of info about his passports and where they were.

[FoxNewsSucks]

107. That's what I would think,

MF45 planned to sell our secrets to foreigners, so he'd need his passport to make the delivery and collect his cash.

[perfessor]

13. One does not "own" the passport.

It is the property of the US State Department.

[CaptainTruth]

38. True.

[forgotmylogin]

54. Kind of like when you get a traffic ticket and they take your driver's license.

The ticket serves as stand in for your driver's license until you show up in court or pay the ticket to get it returned.

[TxVietVet]

15. He's a treasonous criminal.

Last edited Mon Aug 15, 2022, 02:24 PM - Edit history (1)

Stopping him from fleeing.

Something tells me that he's been caught trying to sell those documents and the word got out. A co-conspirator ratted his fat ass out!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fox-news-host-wonders-aloud-064434447.html

[Novara]

16. There's still talk that the FBI was looking for more than the classified documents

Lots of chatter on twitter from legal people who say the FBI was there for more than the stolen boxes. There was another search warrant that the DOJ asked to be kept sealed when they asked for this one to be unsealed. Nobody yet knows if that was for a different location or for other things than the stolen classified info.

[OneGrassRoot]

26. Are they certain it involved Trump?

I saw the same chatter but couldn’t discern any consensus about it involving Trump for sure.

[Novara]

28. There isn't much information out there

People are trying to draw conclusions on essentially no information other than there was another search warrant.

I assumed it was related since they referenced the case.

[OneGrassRoot]

51. ok, tyvm. 😊 n/t

[former9thward]

20. The OP asks "Why were they in boxes"?

They were in the safe. Most people have their passports in secure locations. Maybe the Twitter guy in the OP leaves his laying around.

[LymphocyteLover]

50. wouldn't they be listed in the list of things taken by the FBI then?

[former9thward]

69. I have not seen any list.

I am just going by what the OP says. The twitter in the OP finds it amazing that people have passports in secure locations. I would find it amazing if the opposite was occurring.

[LeftInTX]

82. The warrant is online. It does not list his passports

It list box numbers, classifications, Roger Stone's clemency, Info on President of France, unspecified photos

[former9thward]

126. Some posters claim the FBI has them and some (you) say they don't.

I don't really care. My point is the OP was amazed they were in a secure location -- no matter who has them now. From the OP:Second, why were they in boxes? The OP doesn't think passports should be in secure locations like safes. I guess they should be laying around on the coffee table.

[LeftInTX]

132. The warrant states containers/ boxes where documents can be stored along with other contents

And other container/boxes collectively stored and found with the boxes and documents etc

IOW: They did not sort or sift through the contents on sight. And this would cover their bases in the event that there were personal items that were mixed in items that were part of the warrant.

Page 4

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/22131425-mar-a-lago-search-documents

So, it's entirely possible passports were in one of the evidence boxes, even if they are not specifically mentioned in the warrant.

[inthewind21]

118. It's been

all over the news and online.

[former9thward]

127. Every item they took?

No its not.

Do you think, as the OP does, that passports should not be in a secure location? Very weird.

[inthewind21]

117. Bingo!

Yes, they would. Guess what's not listed on the inventory?

[TheBlackAdder]

21. Three Passports, One Expired. Can you have multiple passports?

.

I never got one and don't know the rules.

.

[Mariana]

37. If you're a citizen of more than one country you can have one for each.

That would be interesting.

Edited to add: I suppose you could have two copies of one passport, if you lost it, got a new copy, and then found it again.

[wnylib]

57. Wonder if he has a UK passport.

His mother was a Scottish immigrant. Would that entitle him to dual citizenship? I don't know the UK rules on that.

[Mariana]

65. I know how the rules are now, but they may have been very different back then.

Now, people don't lose UK citizenship just because they got naturalized in the US. They don't care what their citizens say to the Yanks during the naturalization ceremony, about renouncing all other allegiances. To lose UK citizenship they have to formally renounce it to the proper British authorities via whatever their renunciation process is.

[wnylib]

71. Interesting. But Donald was born in the US.

Would his mother's nationality be passed on to him?

(Hmm, how far back could this go? I have colonial Puritan ancestry. LOL.)

[ShazzieB]

76. If his mother was a UK citizen when he was born, he'd be eligible for a UK passport.

I've researched this, because my father was born in the UK. If one parent is a UK citizen, kids are eligible for a UK passport. (It does have to be a parent, sorry, wnylib.)

My dad didn't get around to getting naturalized until I was 19. My understanding (which may or may not be correct) is that I wouldn't be eligible for a UK passport if he'd been naturalized before I was born, but who knows?

In any case, I can see Trump's mom not being in a hurry to get naturalized. She was married to a US citizen and may not have felt much urgency about it.

[muriel_volestrangler]

98. He would have had to be registered with a British consul at the time

And what applies because of your father doesn't necessarily apply because of your mother, thanks to old-fashioned misogyny:

Before 1 January 1983 British women were not able to pass on citizenship to their
children born abroad in the same way as British men. Children born before 1
January 1983 to British mothers can apply for registration as a British citizen under
section 4C of the British Nationality Act 1981.They will normally qualify if they would
have become British citizens automatically under that Act had women been able to
pass on citizenship in the same way as men.
...
Where you are considering registering a person born outside the UK to a British
mother before 1 January 1949, you must be satisfied that their birth was registered
with a UK consulate in the 12 month period after their birth.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1083182/Registration_as_British_citizen_-_children_of_British_parents.pdf

[3catwoman3]

111. How very insulting to women - the ones...

...who actually give birth.

[Mariana]

77. I don't know what the rules were then.

My daughter was born in the US so she's a US citizen, but she also was born a citizen of the UK because her father met the requirements to pass on his UK citizenship. The only way she can lose the UK citizenship she was born with is if she renounces.

[CaptainTruth]

44. Yes, you can have 2 valid US passports.

Apparently it's not all that uncommon for high-level govt officials who travel & there are reasons, for example, there are still some Arab countries that won't allow you in if you have an Israeli stamp in your passport.

The State Dept info is here:

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/have-passport/second-passport-book.html]

[LymphocyteLover]

49. interesting, thanks

[treestar]

135. if you travel a lot, you can get another one

just because you need more pages.

[former9thward]

64. I have more than one passport.

One for entry into Israel and one for any trips into Arab countries. Many Arab countries will not allow you in if they see evidence of an Israeli passport stamps.

[Pinback]

70. Probably has one for John Barron. (nt)

[Recursion]

101. I have two. Lots of people who travel for work do

I have two because when I travel under orders I use a black passport. But even in the private sector if you need to go to e.g. both Taiwan and mainland China you'll need to passports because PRC won't process a passport with a Taiwan entry stamp in it.

[UTUSN]

22. He *NEEDED* that expired one so he could travel!1

[Meadowoak]

75. Trump's driver's license still has a 1985 picture on it. Probably

The same picture on his passport.

[LeftInTX]

80. "Look how young I look!"

[global1]

24. This Suggests To Me That Tr**p Was Checking In To Flee The Country And Then Realized.....

he doesn't have possession of a passport.

[Meadowoak]

87. +1

[renate]

88. Good point!

Unless he received a list of the things the FBI took? Idk how these things work, since I’m a law-abiding person.

[Meadowoak]

89. Do you even need a passport when flying on a private jet?

No way would Trump ever fly commercial with all the rabble.

[inthewind21]

119. You do

If you intend to get off that plane wherever it is you land.

[ecstatic]

129. lol! nt

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

25. So much for asylum in Russia

[LeftInTX]

113. Snowden got Russian asylum without a passport

[Bleacher Creature]

30. One was probably his government-issued passport, which you need to return when you leave govt.

I assume that even a President needs to clear customs while on official travel. You are required to return it when you are no longer a government employee. The second would then be his personal passport and the third an expired personal passport.

Or he's just making crap up again.

[flor-de-jasmim]

34. Passports can be falsified, and I am sure he knows the "best people" for it.

[Novara]

35. Except there are databases and he'd be flagged immediately if he tried to use a falsified one

[Buckeyeblue]

36. Do former presidents really need passports?

[DetroitLegalBeagle]

46. Technically you don't actually need a passport for entry into another country

It's entirely in the other country's right to waive a passport requirement for entry. It's just extremely rare for that to happen. But being rich vastly increases those odds.

[LeftInTX]

48. Almost anyone can go to Mexico without a passport.

Heck people even return without one!

You can't fly into Mexico without one, but you can cross over..
If you don't have a passport, the US will accept your birth certificate on return. (Some people crossed the border a few months ago. I asked, "Did you get a passport?" "No, I had my birth certificate and they accepted it" ) If you don't have documentation, you can be detained until they can verify that you're a US citizen.

[wnylib]

60. Imagine DJT going to Mexico illegally to escape the US.

He could climb over his wall. Or swim across the Rio Grande.

[LeftInTX]

67. Bloatus can walk over...They won't reject him unless he's on a US-Mexico BOLO

The US lets Mexico know of BOLOs going into Mexico. But otherwise, they let everyone in.

[wnylib]

74. But Mexicans hate DJT.

[ecstatic]

133. good luck with that

I've been to Mexico a couple of times since 2016. He is not liked and a couple of people even expressed violent sentiments. Of course, I nodded my head in agreement. lol.

[LeftInTX]

136. Mexico lets anyone cross. They don't have a policy, unless the person is "wanted by LE"

[GregariousGroundhog]

73. You can also use an enhanced drivers license to cross a land border into Canada and Mexico

The biggest issue with EDLs is that only five states offer them (Washington, Minnesota, Michigan, New York, and Vermont).

[LeftInTX]

78. The ones I know that have gone over have been Texans.

They're Mexican-Americans and relatives who lived here all their lives.

[Recursion]

103. Active heads of state are generally granted special visas on arrival, but not former heads of state

Obvs it all varies by country, but you're going to need *some* kind of travel document if you aren't on a current state visit.

[treestar]

134. They are to identify a person

So you could be famous enough not to need ID, because anyone can ID you. I was thinking the Queen of England might never need one. Nobody's going to deny her entry and it is obvious who she is. That would go for US Presidents too.

[dalton99a]

39. Passports belong to the government.

[crazylikafox]

40. If FBI took his passports wouldn't that have appeared on the evidence list

They released with the warrant?

[Bev54]

41. No they did not list the contents of the boxes just the boxes or

individual items. They did not detail any of the items.

[LeftInTX]

45. Yes it would have

Because passports are not part of the evidence on the warrant.

Trump has a two passports: Private and diplomatic.

If for some reason his passports were mixed in with all the stuff, they will be returned.

[MontanaMama]

43. I don't believe anything TFG says.

Not. One. Thing.

[calimary]

108. That's usually the sensible default position with a liar like him.

Seems safe to assume he’s probably lying again.

[Ford_Prefect]

47. If he leaves he won't be planning to return, so he won't need them.

Anywhere he would go now, like Hungary or Russia, won't care because they will already have cut a deal to let him in. They will also have some kind of guarantee of payment on arrival to enforce compliance by TLG and his flying flea circus.

[DetroitLegalBeagle]

55. Seizing his passport won't prevent him from fleeing

It's not like he would fly commercial. And it's up to the other country to allow entry without one. Having money tends to increase the chances of that happening.

[IronLionZion]

56. Is one of his passports Russian?

This is all BS.

[localroger]

58. They were almost certainly in the safe

This is a non-trivial problem for Trump because he has overseas business interests he does sometimes visit, such as golf courses where he might want to attend an event like a tournament.

[Evolve Dammit]

59. BS or not, the Drumpf plane is inoperable at present. I'm sure he has plenty of buddies with jets?

[wnylib]

61. Or he could hire one.

But I still like the mental image of Trump trying to slip into Mexico to escape arrest, then hoping to fly out from there.

But I have a hunch that he would not be welcome in Mexico.

[Evolve Dammit]

81. Maybe El Chapo can help him tunnel out??

[wnylib]

93. LOL.

[Meadowoak]

92. No doubt, he wanted to bomb mexico, then just say we didn't do it.

[wnylib]

95. Mexicans have hated Trump since the opening day

of his 2016 campaign and the insults he hurled out about them. It got worse as time went on with the way Trump messed up the border and stole babies from their mothers.

[Meadowoak]

90. Absolutely!

[lpbk2713]

68. Go away and STFU Traitor.

No one cares about your silly little problems.

[iemanja]

83. Why believe him?

Trump is a compulsive liar.

[orangecrush]

84. Great news!

[mchill]

85. George Conway is making a lot of noise

On his Twitter account. I’ve been a member here for a long time but I’ve never done an original post or I would’ve made it one. Might be worth looking at despite the source.

Link to tweet

?s=21&t=eepOq0PdQRLLxFzdew_FkA

[wiggs]

91. Evidence of travel to Russia and SAE prior to 2015? nt

[irisblue]

94. Was one like this?

Link to tweet

?s=20&t=KOhSVBcvGtdX_NbJ2IEI9g

[LW1977]

96. What a poor poor victim!!

If I committed the crimes TFG did, I’d be incarcerated for life.

[Warpy]

104. Well, John Barron, for one

He's got a bunch of aliases, probably a bunch of passports to cover each one of them.

I imagine the legit one will be returned to him until and unless he is indicted. The fakes will most likely be held in evidence or even destroyed. Cue temper tantrum in 5..4..3..

[Heather MC]

106. WhaAaaa Trump Can't run to....

Nobody would take him
🤣🤣🤣🤣

[kairos12]

109. Not mine.

[aggiesal]

110. I'll bet that's what happens when Special Compartmented Info is found during the search ...

They want to make sure you can't go overseas and sell them or leverage them.

[ashredux]

112. Once he left government service, he can no longer keep diplomatic and other government passports

[Bucky]

114. who?

[hamsterjill]

122. Why would anyone believe Trump?

The FBI hasn’t acknowledged taking his passports.

Trump is just stirring up his base.

[Botany]

123. They were not stolen they were seized and if ..

... this true (I never believe anything that fucker says)
then the A G. and the DoJ see him as a flight risk.

Remember that the 3 other Americans who were convicted of this kind of crime 2 were executed
(The Rosenbergs) and the FBI agent Robert Hansen
got 15 life sentences.

[The Bopper]

125. Another possibility

Maybe he’ll use Epsteins plane to fly to Epstein island where he won’t have to worry about being extradited. Wouldn’t need a passport for that and he’s familiar with the property.

[pfitz59]

130. I have a half dozen passports

2 active, the rest expired. 1 for the job (official business). One for personal travel.

[niyad]

131. Stroke out already, you F'n, murdering, orange TRAITOR**.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

137. For this thread

TFG is lying about the missing passports according to the FBI but I found this to be too funny to not post

Link to tweet

[Novara]

138. If I was him (thank jeebus I'm not), I wouldn't have ...

... even said anything ti the public about it. I mean, it only sets the narrative in peole's minds that he may be a criminal flight risk.

But then again, I am expecting shame from THAT motherfucker? What's wrong with ME? LOL.