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Norah O'Donnell 🇺🇸
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NEW: According to a DOJ official, the FBI is NOT in possession of former President Trump's passports. Trump had accused the FBI of stealing his three passports during the search of his Mar-a-Lago home.
3:55 PM · Aug 15, 2022
LetMyPeopleVote
(179,847 posts)TFG lies about everything. If the FBI had seized TFG's passport, they would have been listed on inventory
Nevilledog
(55,079 posts)Link to tweet
Richard Signorelli
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Why would he lie about his 3 passports?
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To test how people react. Who is gullible (esp in media), who he still has a hold over, who will offer him help domestically and abroad, etc.
4:34 PM · Aug 15, 2022
crickets
(26,168 posts)It also kept people busy talking about something else besides the stolen documents the FBI retrieved.
ecstatic
(35,075 posts)he hangs out with if they have it.
rgbecker
(4,890 posts)Geechie
(1,044 posts)central scrutinizer
(12,654 posts)And one expired, according to an earlier report. I have three passports, one expired in 1975, then I didnt have one for 30 years, one expired in 2015, and my current one, valid until 2025. I should shred the expired ones but havent yet.
SeattleVet
(5,903 posts)They also have a 5-year expiration, unlike the 10-year for a regular passport.
Haggis 4 Breakfast
(1,505 posts)The black ones are for Department of State employees, Embassy staff, diplomats and POTUS, VPOTUS. They are for government business and not for leisure/pleasure travel.
The brown/maroon ones are for FBI agents, politicians, government contractors, as well as active military (and spouses). Good for five years or end of service.
The blue ones are what most Americans carry. (They were green until 1976.)
soldierant
(9,354 posts)if additional photo ID is required for something. But once they've been renewed/replaced, yeah, shredding is a good idea
kentuck
(115,406 posts)They will need a passport already made up for when they land in Riyadh or Moscow? (code)
MiniMe
(21,883 posts)And he isn't entitled to them any more.
MagickMuffin
(18,318 posts)Every time he opens his lying mouth Lies spill out.
wnylib
(26,009 posts)Now he is just a has been liar in chief.
MagickMuffin
(18,318 posts)Seems to suit him to a T
wnylib
(26,009 posts)Irish_Dem
(81,260 posts)An odd thing to lie about.
malaise
(296,096 posts)Hes just flinging - this asshole really thinks he can outsmart both DOJ and the FBI - let him self destruct.
Irish_Dem
(81,260 posts)I just like to figure out why people tell certain specific lies.
There are a lot of lies for Trump to choose from. Why did he pick this particular lie.
The lies we tell usually reveal something.
kentuck
(115,406 posts)He also said today that the temperature was getting hot? What did he mean by that? He doesn't want to "calm" down anything.
I suspect he may be getting paranoid. They are probably tapping his phone? How else can he communicate?
Irish_Dem
(81,260 posts)So we know he is thinking about his passports right now.
In terms of the "temperature is getting hot" statements, Trump is saying what he was saying on 1/6.
-I have the power to raise an army if I don't get what I want.
-I have the power to burn it all down if you come after me.
-And I have the power to shut down the rebellion if you back off.
-I am powerful and you need to be afraid of me.
When the FBI is working on a big criminal case, the surveillance, raids, etc., are in part designed to make the crime members get paranoid, to make them make mistakes or start making deals with the FBI. They want the criminals to start getting buggy.
I am not sure who Trump will be talking with right now.
Usually the crime ring is talking to each other to get stories straight, change locations of the loot, or other plan changes. Reassure each other.
But Trump typically feels invincible, so not sure what he is doing. But I did think he sounded a bit wobbly yesterday and today.
He could be calling Jared and Ivanka. Jared is the most likely suspect to flip on him. Jared I think was the money/bagman conducting the deals. He would for sure give testimony about Trump to save his own skin.
Cheezoholic
(3,719 posts)Mar-A-Scheeno would tilt the planet from the weight of his medals.
malaise
(296,096 posts)Raven
(14,275 posts)soldierant
(9,354 posts)Exactly the way he thinks.
lame54
(39,765 posts)Which has 9 holes punched
Sancho
(9,205 posts)kentuck
(115,406 posts)He needs 3 seats reserved on a special flight.
"Temperature needs to cool down". (It's getting pretty hot for him right now)
It's all code.
Irish_Dem
(81,260 posts)Or to Kim Jong Un. Send private jet to get me.
Actually right now nothing would surprise me.
kentuck
(115,406 posts)What better way to send a message? There would probably be several private jets parked on the runway in NY that belong to the Saudis or the Russians that land and depart at all hours of the night?
Irish_Dem
(81,260 posts)This would make communication quite difficult.
(Of course this is Trump so who knows if the FBI only came by to pick up the boxes and return them to the US government.)
Generally if there are many serious crimes committed, and the FBI is involved, the target would have a hard time leaving the country because of surveillance.
Like Paul Manafort was arrested at Miami International headed for Dubai. He most likely was being followed and the FBI had to make the arrest before he boarded the plane. Even if the FBI doesn't have all the evidence they would like, they are going to have to nab the target right away before he gets on the plane.
I don't see Trump being able to get on a Russian or Saudi plane right now?
I don't know how Trump would escape. If it were me committing one of the worst crimes in American history, a sitting US president selling national security secrets, I would have an escape plan.
Perhaps I would sneak away from my SS agents guarding me in the middle of the night, have a small motor boat take me out to a yacht sailing off the coast of Florida. Russian subs are typically patrolling off the east coast of the US and one could swing by and pick me up.
Of course Trump is not smart enough to think of this and figures he has no need to make an escape plan. He can threaten to burn down the country and the DOJ will back off.
wnylib
(26,009 posts)as a threat. "My followers are heated up over this."
blogslug
(39,167 posts)I really think if he didn't have hired help to pick up after him, he would be a clinical hoarder.
Nevilledog
(55,079 posts)The FBI took my remote.
Haggis 4 Breakfast
(1,505 posts)crickets
(26,168 posts)orangecrush
(30,253 posts)ThoughtCriminal
(14,721 posts)Lost you passports eh? Planning to leave the country suddenly?
MissMillie
(39,652 posts)I mean, he's apparently misplaced his passports. Pretty good indication that he's not very good at keeping track of important papers.
tclambert
(11,193 posts)Mr. Ected
(9,714 posts)People are saying he was actually born in Nazi Germany. Lots of people. And they're saying, hey, if we're wrong, show us your long form birth certificate, Donald. Show us we're wrong.
slumcamper
(1,787 posts)Can anyone explain why in hell he needed 3?
gab13by13
(32,318 posts)doesn't need to be scrutinized.
Joinfortmill
(21,162 posts)Grammy23
(6,122 posts)I have my passport in a locked, fireproof box. The only time I get it out is when Im preparing for a trip out of the country. So what was he needing it for if not a quick trip out of the US?
Tickle
(4,131 posts)according to NBC
kentuck
(115,406 posts)CBS was right when they reported it. Now they need to do a follow up.