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MarineCombatEngineer

(12,250 posts)
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 03:11 PM Aug 2022

Putin allies threaten to attack Tower Bridge with Kalibr cruise missile

Vladimir Putin’s propagandists have once again threatened to attack Britain, this time warning of missile attacks on Tower Bridge and the use of nuclear weapons against British troops assisting Nato in Estonia.

The threats are the latest outpouring of ant-Western bile broadcast from state TV in Moscow as Russia’s invasion of Ukraine continues to falter.

Senior MP Oleg Morozov claimed that Boris Johnson was plotting with Kyiv to explode Putin’s vanity project bridge which links the annexed Crimea to the Russian mainland.

Last week Ukrainian special forces destroyed an airbase in Crimea which sent shockwaves rippling through Putin’s top brass as many of them began to fear more retaliatory strikes from their neighbours.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-allies-threaten-to-attack-tower-bridge-with-kalibr-cruise-missile/ar-AA10JeSJ?cvid=ee1f54c47c2047b783a75a37389a934c

That would trigger Article 5 of the NATO charter, not something Putin wants, but hey, good luck with that.

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Putin allies threaten to attack Tower Bridge with Kalibr cruise missile (Original Post) MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2022 OP
All the computer war game scenarios HAB911 Aug 2022 #1
Yup, unless sane Russians remove him, like his Generals, MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2022 #3
Stauffenberg failed and was executed. Hopefully someone successful this time. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #10
Yeah, unfortunately, MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2022 #12
Before he dies, Putin is hell bent on achieving his goals of world power through terror. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #14
Dammit!!! MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2022 #16
Sorry, I can't help it. If I were Putin, I would have departed Moscow months ago. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #18
"unless sane Russians remove him" There are some sane people over there. mitch96 Aug 2022 #17
Putin could find no place to hide if he attacked a NATO country. lpbk2713 Aug 2022 #2
+100. nt MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2022 #5
Apparently Russia must be losing the unprovoked war on Ukraine .... Lovie777 Aug 2022 #4
Article 5 of the NATO Charter says.... ProudMNDemocrat Aug 2022 #6
Goodness...that's some bilious bile The Unmitigated Gall Aug 2022 #7
The Russians better be careful, they may be poking fun and someone may take them seriously. Chainfire Aug 2022 #8
Putin allies may want to pause sarisataka Aug 2022 #9
Putin and China have decided the way to power is to bully, threaten, and terrorize enemies. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #11
The one thing I came away with while I was stationed in the UK MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2022 #13
Yes that is consistent with the historical accounts. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #15
Blowhard who knows nothing about London, and perhaps Crimea too muriel_volestrangler Aug 2022 #19
Shades of Spider-Man n/t AntiFascist Aug 2022 #20

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,250 posts)
3. Yup, unless sane Russians remove him, like his Generals,
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 03:17 PM
Aug 2022

is there a Claus von Stauffenberg among the Russian High Command?

Irish_Dem

(46,504 posts)
10. Stauffenberg failed and was executed. Hopefully someone successful this time.
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 03:59 PM
Aug 2022

But I hear Putin is heavily guarded.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,250 posts)
12. Yeah, unfortunately,
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 04:28 PM
Aug 2022

but so was Hitler and he was gotten to, unsuccessfully, but it was close, so maybe............
I'd settle with him being a vegetable due to injuries.

Irish_Dem

(46,504 posts)
14. Before he dies, Putin is hell bent on achieving his goals of world power through terror.
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 04:38 PM
Aug 2022

So Putin is going to protect himself as much as possible.
He is said to be the world's richest man, so he can afford a lot of security.

For example, he may not even be in Moscow right now.
But some secret undisclosed location.

Irish_Dem

(46,504 posts)
18. Sorry, I can't help it. If I were Putin, I would have departed Moscow months ago.
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 04:51 PM
Aug 2022

I am certain he has underground tunnels at the Kremlin or his private residences.
But these might not be safe.

I assume Ukrainian agents may be trying to track Putin in Moscow.
And as you point out, his generals and advisors might not be happy with him.
The Russian people may not like Putin right now either.

Putin is rich enough to have secret safe havens all over the world.

Maybe he is rotating among them.

And he is rich enough to have the world's best doctors following him wherever he goes.

During WWII, Churchill and FDR made secret trips outside of London or Wash DC.
It was classified, due to wartime conditions of course.

mitch96

(13,870 posts)
17. "unless sane Russians remove him" There are some sane people over there.
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 04:42 PM
Aug 2022

VALENTIN SAVITSKI is one.. He disobeyed orders and stopped an nuclear mess..
It was the little told story of Soviet naval officer Vasili Arkhipov, the Brigade Chief of Staff on submarine B-59, who refused to fire a nuclear missile and saved the world from World War III and nuclear disaster.
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https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/oct/27/vasili-arkhipov-soviet-submarine-captain-who-averted-nuclear-war-awarded-future-of-life-prize

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,728 posts)
6. Article 5 of the NATO Charter says....
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 03:27 PM
Aug 2022

"An attack on one NATO country is an attack on all."

Vladimir Putin is reckless in his threats as he is ruthless in dealing with his inner circle of adversaries. But stupid he is not.

I also could be wrong here.

Chainfire

(17,471 posts)
8. The Russians better be careful, they may be poking fun and someone may take them seriously.
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 03:42 PM
Aug 2022

Beating the nuclear drum is dangerous to the max.

sarisataka

(18,492 posts)
9. Putin allies may want to pause
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 03:46 PM
Aug 2022

And consider the fate of the last nation that decided to launch an aerial attack on London.

Irish_Dem

(46,504 posts)
11. Putin and China have decided the way to power is to bully, threaten, and terrorize enemies.
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 04:01 PM
Aug 2022

Britain may not scare so easily, they put up with years of Hitler's relentless bombing of London and did not surrender.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,250 posts)
13. The one thing I came away with while I was stationed in the UK
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 04:31 PM
Aug 2022

is that the British people are very reserved but determined and don't scare easily.

Irish_Dem

(46,504 posts)
15. Yes that is consistent with the historical accounts.
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 04:41 PM
Aug 2022

Nightly bomb raids for years, death and destruction, and the Brits got up and went to work each day literally stepping over the rubble.

And the rest of Europe learned the hard way that appeasement doesn't work.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,271 posts)
19. Blowhard who knows nothing about London, and perhaps Crimea too
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 06:07 PM
Aug 2022
‘The Crimean bridge from a military strategic view is similar to Tower Bridge in London,’ he said.

‘If the UK is discussing a Crimean bridge attack with Ukraine, why don’t we discuss using Kalibr missiles to attack Tower Bridge in return?’

Propagandist TV anchor Yevgeny Popov, also an MP, agreed with his guest and colleague, adding that ‘for a complete analogy’ it should involve Russia seeking help from a third country to knock out Tower Bridge.

Just twaddle. Tower Bridge is not 'strategic' in any sense; it may be the easternmost bridge in central London, but there are multiple bridges just upstream from it, and tunnels downstream. And the military doesn't give a toss about driving through central London. But since it's the only British bridge he's seen on film, it's what he names. Russian TV seems to be filled with arseholes talking bollocks to keep the gullible Putin supporters onside. Rather like Fox, Newsmax and so on.
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