Who in a million years would have thought a conservative republican

[Laura PourMeADrink]

would have been the voice to succinctly speak to our values as a nation and what trump did to our democracy.

Thank you Liz!!!! From one Democrat

[question everything]

1. The old "country club" East Coast Republicans, from the 40s and the 50s

who pursued the "live and let live."

[OAITW r.2.0]

4. They gone.

The new Republican class - Central US/rural states that believe in Trump. No Platform, no organizing principle on America's future. Just cover Trumps Ass.

[FoxNewsSucks]

6. As a resident of one of those flyover states,

I can confirm you're right.

They have used media, and fecesbook to mobilize an army of braindead MAGAts. It's now a cult, not a political party.

[JHB]

25. In other words, the same people current conservative Republicans drove to political extinction...

...by courting the very same people who are now driving them to political extinction.

[Stinky The Clown]

2. Proud to have been Rec 5

[LakeArenal]

3. She had me when she told Jim Jordon to f-off he created Jan 6.

I think that was the real Liz Cheney.

[bottomofthehill]

5. A true profile in courage.

I am glad she was one of Kennedy Library award winners. I disagree with her on many, many things, but her love for our country and democracy is showing clearly and I am with her on that 💯

[pazzyanne]

16. + 1 nt

[wiggs]

7. she should have (sarcasticly) claimed stolen election, since the winner has no problem

saying that. A little derision and mocking is due.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

13. That would have been GREAT

[calimary]

8. Don't fall too hard for her. Buyer beware. Or more accurately Be AFRAID.

She's MIGHTILY and INTENSELY knuckle-draggingly conservative.

She's like the proverbial broken clock. Even broken, still right twice a day. But that's it.

Liz Cheney Voted With Trump 93 Percent of Her Congressional Career
BY NICK MORDOWANEC ON 8/16/22 AT 1:51 PM EDT
https://www.newsweek.com/liz-cheney-voted-donald-trump-93-percent-congress-1734186

I Hope Liz Cheney Wins, but I Couldn’t Vote for Her
Cheney is appealing for Democratic crossover votes in today’s Wyoming primary, but she’s still a right-wing zealot.
By John Nichols TODAY 11:10 AM
https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/liz-cheney-democratic-votes/
In THIS one, I particularly loved the following passage:
"Before their recent falling out, Cheney voted with Trump 93 percent of time. And when she broke with the former president, it was often to take more extreme positions. Cheney’s an outspoken critic of abortion rights, a vigorous foe of efforts to control gun violence, and an ardent advocate for cutting social programs, reducing taxes on the rich, and balancing the budget in favor of the Pentagon. Before the 2020 election, Cheney used a March 2019 Meet the Press appearance to decry Democrats as 'the party of anti-Semitism, the party of infanticide, the party of socialism.' Cheney claimed that Kamala Harris 'sounds just like Karl Marx.' And her attacks on Representatives Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.) and Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) were so vicious that Jim Zogby, the founder and president of the Arab American Institute, told Cheney that her rhetoric 'smacks either of a deep-seated anti-Arab/Muslim bigotry or crass politics designed to prey on the bigotry of your ‘base.’ In either case it’s disgraceful. Your party’s been playing this game for a decade. Shame'.”

[BlueCheeseAgain]

10. I think everyone praising her here has their eyes wide open.

I know that she's a conservative, and in terms of policy, we don't agree on very much. In normal times, we would be opponents almost all of the time.

But right now, our biggest concern is keeping our democracy alive against the bizarro conspiracy-minded cult that is today's Republican Party. And every ally we can have in that fight is valuable-- especially those who are clearly genuine conservative who can talk to other persuadable conservatives.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

14. Amen!!!

[AKwannabe]

18. This!

J6 committee rockin it. Only ones!

[elleng]

21. Thanks for the important details.

We do need to remember, at the same time we're aware of the overall jeopardy we/democracy are in.

[TygrBright]

9. She is now entirely free for the next four months to do as her conscience dictates. n/t

[Hekate]

11. Not in the last 50 years anyway. Many thanks, Liz Cheney

[Hugin]

12. What was the final count?

Anyone have it handy?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

15. Opponent got 63% of vote

[Hugin]

22. I was hoping...

It would be a little less lopsided.

In a normal un-trumped primary it probably would have been. It only goes to show how little attention people pay to the actual facts.

After I asked, I went and looked for the tally. Something like 120,000 votes in that primary. They handed Wyoming to the man-child. I think that’s like a little over a fifth of the population. 98,000 of them are okay with sedition.

Well, FAFO.

[ShazzieB]

19. I don't remember the exact numbers, but if I recall correctly, she got about 1/3 of the vote.

[Hugin]

23. Thanks, ShazzieB. n/t

[AKwannabe]

17. Drinking to that

And rec’d

[xocetaceans]

20. One should keep in mind Bush v. Gore and not praise Cheney too hastily...

The GOP has been fine with subverting democracy in the past. That they (largely en masse) are currently fine with a different variety of an anti-democratic practice or behavior is not really all that surprising.

Halting the counting of votes is an anti-democratic practice - even if the Supreme Court is ordering it. Creating butterfly ballots and a system that generates "hanging chads" is also gaming the system in an anti-democratic manner.

One should recall what the Supreme Court did by halting the recount in Florida. Only later would the recounts show that Gore would have won Florida. So, the Supreme Court chose to create the Bush/Cheney administration and all that followed from it.

Was Liz Cheney against such anti-democratic practices back then when they had influence over her father's fortunes? Did she speak up and demand that the vote in Florida be allowed to be recounted completely? I don't recall her or any of the GOP of that time standing up and saying that the full vote in Florida should be recounted completely.

She is a day late and a dollar short as far as I am concerned. So, while it is good that she is saying what she is saying now, she deserves no praise for the doing of what she always should have done and still should do as a citizen of the USA.

Florida 'recounts' make Gore winner

Special report: the US elections

Martin Kettle in Washington
@martinkettle
Sun 28 Jan 2001 20.18 EST


Al Gore, not George Bush, should be sitting in the White House today as the newly elected president of the United States, two new independent probes of the disputed Florida election contest have confirmed.

The first survey, conducted on behalf of the Washington Post, shows that Mr Gore had a nearly three-to-one majority among 56,000 Florida voters whose November 7 ballot papers were discounted because they contained more than one punched hole.

The second and separate survey, conducted on behalf of the Palm Beach Post, shows that Mr Gore had a majority of 682 votes among the discounted "dimpled" ballots in Palm Beach county.

In each case, if the newly examined votes had been allowed to count in the November election, Mr Gore would have won Florida's 21 electoral college votes by a narrow majority and he, not Mr Bush, would be the president. Instead, Mr Bush officially carried Florida by 537 votes after recounts were stopped.

...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/jan/29/uselections2000.usa

[AntivaxHunters]

24. Let's not romanticize Liz Cheney

who has fought tooth & nail against poor & working class people.
How many times did Liz Cheney vote to repeal the ACA?

Can we please stop thinking Republicans are good? They are not!