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speak easy

(9,241 posts)
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 08:50 AM Aug 2022

the worst of the worst



Gen Michael Hayden
@GenMhayden
I agree. And I was the CIA Director

Edward Luce
@EdwardGLuce
I’ve covered extremism and violent ideologies around the world over my career. Have never come across a political force more nihilistic, dangerous & contemptible than today’s Republicans. Nothing close.
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the worst of the worst (Original Post) speak easy Aug 2022 OP
Well, he kind of sums it up right there ashredux Aug 2022 #1
Please, oh, please say this for The Lincoln Project HariSeldon Aug 2022 #2
That is a great idea. jaxexpat Aug 2022 #10
That's not an exaggeration. sop Aug 2022 #3
It's actually precision. dchill Aug 2022 #13
Yep. Pretty much. calimary Aug 2022 #22
Ouch! Ray Bruns Aug 2022 #4
It's there for all to see... kentuck Aug 2022 #5
I do, too NJCher Aug 2022 #15
Mmmm--bacon... spooky3 Aug 2022 #19
I love the smell of NJCher Aug 2022 #20
Kick. N/T Upthevibe Aug 2022 #6
And Mitch McConnell allows it. YoshidaYui Aug 2022 #7
He's the hired ringleader. rubbersole Aug 2022 #9
KNR niyad Aug 2022 #8
80Million voters don't give a rats ass - buckle up buttercups, the future is not going to be fun NoMoreRepugs Aug 2022 #11
you need to adjust your figures a bit NJCher Aug 2022 #17
Original post I commented on does not contain the word "Trump" - just NoMoreRepugs Aug 2022 #26
OK, so please explain NJCher Aug 2022 #27
2020 votes cast for GOP Presidential candidate - 74mm. Guess I had JB's number locked in my head. NoMoreRepugs Aug 2022 #29
so half of 74 million is NJCher Aug 2022 #31
dayum dweller Aug 2022 #34
Kick & recommend for visibility esp the Luce tweet bronxiteforever Aug 2022 #12
K&R brer cat Aug 2022 #14
Consider the source of the retweet. JohnnyRingo Aug 2022 #16
Yeah. I mean, what would he know? speak easy Aug 2022 #18
No kidding. I may be wrong but I always considered him VERY conservative. yonder Aug 2022 #23
Hayden was a speaker at CPAC 2015 speak easy Aug 2022 #37
That is pretty damn dark Evolve Dammit Aug 2022 #21
Wrong, and damned proud of it too! They'll never relent. czarjak Aug 2022 #24
Why do Luce and Hayden hate America? Martin Eden Aug 2022 #25
A damning statement and I believe it is absolutely true. Handler Aug 2022 #28
K & R & Retweeted! SunSeeker Aug 2022 #30
Twitter reply: Rhiannon12866 Aug 2022 #32
That is STARK!!! BobTheSubgenius Aug 2022 #33
This is serious and needs to be taken seriously. As much as everybody likes to knock the media I GuppyGal Aug 2022 #35
Kick dalton99a Aug 2022 #36
The radicalized Republican party is a subversive, seditious organization. Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2022 #38
When do we reach critical mass? The Jungle 1 Aug 2022 #39
k&r BSdetect Aug 2022 #40

HariSeldon

(455 posts)
2. Please, oh, please say this for The Lincoln Project
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 09:23 AM
Aug 2022

I really hope Gen (ret) Hayden would make a spot for TLP, something like: "I never sought public attention during my career, so let me introduce myself: I'm Gen. Hayden. I earned my rank in the US Air Force, then directed the CIA for 3 years under President Bush. In my experience there has been nothing so dangerous or threatening to our American freedoms as today's Republican Party. A vote for any Republican is a vote against American values."

jaxexpat

(6,818 posts)
10. That is a great idea.
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 10:20 AM
Aug 2022

It would sink the GQP to lose the military support community of voters.

He needs to speak at the Democratic and the Republican conventions in 2024. He'd need an armed guard at the Republican convention. They don't like facts, truth or mirrors.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
22. Yep. Pretty much.
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 11:44 AM
Aug 2022

AMAZING manipulation of the masses.

I posted in another thread - they found their “golden calf.” And they’re gonna cling to him like remoras on a shark or whale.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remora

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
5. It's there for all to see...
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 09:30 AM
Aug 2022

...but we know they will turn the other way. I have faith they will be exposed, each and every one.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,415 posts)
11. 80Million voters don't give a rats ass - buckle up buttercups, the future is not going to be fun
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 10:24 AM
Aug 2022

or peaceful.

NJCher

(35,658 posts)
17. you need to adjust your figures a bit
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 11:21 AM
Aug 2022

like maybe 50%. So perhaps you could revised that 80 million in your subject heading to "40 million."

This is as of July 12, and that was prior to the very damaging information that he has top secret nuclear information in his basement.


Half of Republicans wouldn't vote for Trump in primary, poll finds

https://www.axios.com/2022/07/12/trump-2024-presidential-election-gop-primary

from the NY Times:

Half of G.O.P. Voters Ready to Leave Trump Behind, Poll Finds

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/12/us/politics/trump-approval-polling-2024.html

So please, if you're going to post negative, discouraging posts, at least be up to date in your assertions.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,415 posts)
26. Original post I commented on does not contain the word "Trump" - just
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 01:22 PM
Aug 2022

“Republican”, I stand by my numbers.

NJCher

(35,658 posts)
31. so half of 74 million is
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 04:05 PM
Aug 2022

37,000,000. To amend your subject line with reference to trump voters, then, it should read:

Prior to the damaging revelations about top secret information in his basement, 37Million voters would not give a rats ass - buckle up buttercups, the future is not going to be fun

And in the dialogue box, it might show some integrity if you mentioned:

That 24% is the part of the electorate that theoretically, based on polls, still supports him.

Upcoming polls may possibly show a diminishing of his support, due to the revelations that top secret information was taken from the White House and that it was stored in an insecure area of Mar-a-Lago.

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Now, we had a total of 81,000,000 + 74,000,000 voters in the last election. That is 155,000,000 voters. Trump's 74,000,000 is theoretically down to 37,000,000 due to his latest foolish act which will probably render this discussion moot because he will be in court.

If only these 155,000,000 voters go to the polls and vote like they did in the last election, trump's support is then around 24%.

Once again, I stress that the turning away from trump figures are from July 12, which is prior to the damaging revelations about the top secret information, which broke on around Aug. 12.

Even August 12 surveys are unlikely to show the full extent to which even trump voters have turned away, due to the fact that the fallout has been most damaging in the the last four or five days.

Finally, do you still stand by your statement that "the future is not going to be fun?" Because I don't know of any president who has won an election with 24% support.

And quite frankly, I think it's fun watching characters like trump go down.

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Note to any mathematically inclined posters: if i'm incorrect, please post back with my mistakes. I am an English professor, not a math professor.







speak easy

(9,241 posts)
37. Hayden was a speaker at CPAC 2015
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 12:55 AM
Aug 2022

He is/was a 'conservative' when that word had some meaning. Hayden supported Biden in 2020.

GuppyGal

(1,748 posts)
35. This is serious and needs to be taken seriously. As much as everybody likes to knock the media I
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 11:39 PM
Aug 2022

say thank goodness for them....as imperfect as they are they are the only firewall we have.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,328 posts)
38. The radicalized Republican party is a subversive, seditious organization.
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 04:43 AM
Aug 2022

The radicalized Republican party is goose-stepping to a dystopian mix of theocracy, to control the proletariat, and fascism, with government of, by, and for (selected) industry.

Roe, Roe, Roe your vote
against theocracy!
Republicans revoke your rights
and kill democracy!

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