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Sat Aug 20, 2022, 08:25 AM

Duer duhneece is targeted by a right-wing domestic terrorist.


I thought my friend Donna was a wee bit paranoid. She phoned me Thursday before last to tell me to be extra cautious as my name had been mentioned by the election-denier, grifter, attorney David Clements during a county commission meeting, packed full with right-wing supporters of Clements and Cowboys for Trump, Jan 6 criminal Couy Griffin. Clements complained bitterly that I had filed an official complaint against him with the New Mexico Supreme Court and my complaint had initiated an investigation.

Then over last weekend, he complained about me again in a Facebook post. I got a few more calls and folks tell me that they think our county is where the next civil war begins or next mass shooting.

Then he posted a video. He says in the video that he has over 100,000 followers and whines that my complaint is taking food from his children’s mouths.

Video here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lgDzJapXp-pBpFQZZDELlipxjsRmgOOy/view

More about Clements here, including NPR, report: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216961511

Clements friend, Couy Griffin uses tactics of normalizing violence with his speeches he made when he joined Women for America First on the bus tour across the country. He urged Trump supporters to rally at the Capitol on Jan. 6, saying there should be martial law and we are a nation at war. He continued to speak favorably of the riot in the days after the attack in videos he posted on social media.

Witness at Couy’s 14th Amendment trial to remove him from office last week, Rachel Kleinfeld said during his trial that Griffin in those public statements consistently used tactics that can incite people to become violent.
Clements and his telegram followers use these same tactics during their recruitment meetings on his social media that normalize violence, by saying things like using terms like firing squads as seen in this telgram shot from his channel.



Remember, this is the county where our commissioner’s “The only good Democrat is a dead Democrat” video got retweeted by the former President. Same commissioner who has been banned by the Mescalero Apache reservation. Same commission district that my friend Stephanie DuBois is running for. We are doing all we can to stop this madness but we need your help. We need your support. This is what we have to counter.

Donate here: https://secure.actblue.com/donate/dufordubois22

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Reply Duer duhneece is targeted by a right-wing domestic terrorist. (Original post)
duhneece Aug 2022 OP
dameatball Aug 2022 #1
duhneece Aug 2022 #8
Marthe48 Aug 2022 #2
duhneece Aug 2022 #9
mgardener Aug 2022 #3
duhneece Aug 2022 #11
Wounded Bear Aug 2022 #4
duhneece Aug 2022 #12
Generic Other Aug 2022 #5
duhneece Aug 2022 #13
Generic Other Aug 2022 #29
duhneece Aug 2022 #31
denvine Aug 2022 #6
duhneece Aug 2022 #16
MLAA Aug 2022 #7
duhneece Aug 2022 #17
Farmer-Rick Aug 2022 #10
duhneece Aug 2022 #18
Farmer-Rick Aug 2022 #19
duhneece Aug 2022 #27
KS Toronado Aug 2022 #14
duhneece Aug 2022 #21
BComplex Aug 2022 #60
burrowowl Aug 2022 #15
duhneece Aug 2022 #22
Wednesdays Aug 2022 #20
duhneece Aug 2022 #24
StephanieDubois Aug 2022 #25
Hekate Aug 2022 #38
BlackSkimmer Aug 2022 #23
duhneece Aug 2022 #26
StephanieDubois Aug 2022 #28
TygrBright Aug 2022 #30
KPN Aug 2022 #34
duhneece Aug 2022 #43
TygrBright Aug 2022 #68
duhneece Aug 2022 #69
jmbar2 Aug 2022 #62
duhneece Aug 2022 #65
ancianita Aug 2022 #63
Warpy Aug 2022 #32
duhneece Aug 2022 #44
KPN Aug 2022 #33
duhneece Aug 2022 #45
Lisa0825 Aug 2022 #35
Lisa0825 Aug 2022 #36
duhneece Aug 2022 #46
Ponietz Aug 2022 #37
duhneece Aug 2022 #47
Ponietz Aug 2022 #79
duhneece Aug 2022 #80
Hekate Aug 2022 #39
duhneece Aug 2022 #48
NBachers Aug 2022 #40
duhneece Aug 2022 #49
StephanieDubois Aug 2022 #53
Cha Aug 2022 #41
duhneece Aug 2022 #50
Cha Aug 2022 #52
duhneece Aug 2022 #55
Cha Aug 2022 #58
Peacetrain Aug 2022 #42
duhneece Aug 2022 #51
StephanieDubois Aug 2022 #54
duhneece Aug 2022 #56
hamsterjill Aug 2022 #57
duhneece Aug 2022 #64
JCMach1 Aug 2022 #59
duhneece Aug 2022 #66
sheshe2 Aug 2022 #61
duhneece Aug 2022 #76
Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2022 #67
OneGrassRoot Aug 2022 #70
leftyladyfrommo Aug 2022 #71
OneGrassRoot Aug 2022 #72
leftyladyfrommo Aug 2022 #73
OneGrassRoot Aug 2022 #74
duhneece Aug 2022 #77
OneGrassRoot Aug 2022 #78
Omaha Steve Aug 2022 #75

Response to duhneece (Original post)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 08:39 AM

1. Thank you for your efforts. Hard to believe where we are these days in this country. Well, on second

thought, not so hard to believe I suppose. Donation sent.

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Response to dameatball (Reply #1)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 10:05 AM

8. Thank you

We feel like we’re ‘Ground Zero’ for threats of violence.

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Response to duhneece (Original post)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 08:53 AM

2. Stay safe!

When people like clements or griffin call for martial law, they mean mob rule.

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Response to Marthe48 (Reply #2)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 10:06 AM

9. Exactly. They don't believe we're a nation of laws

But they’re just grifting.. .and issuing veiled threats. I won’t back down.

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Response to duhneece (Original post)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 08:58 AM

3. Done

Tell her thank you

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Response to mgardener (Reply #3)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 10:07 AM

11. Appreciated

We CAN turn red counties blue

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Response to duhneece (Original post)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 09:07 AM

4. K & R...for visibility...nt

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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #4)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 10:07 AM

12. Thank you nt

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Response to duhneece (Original post)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 09:26 AM

5. Be careful

Stay safe.

Try not to worry about their threats. Put 911 on speed dial. Call the FBI. Make a complaint there. They take these things seriously.

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Response to Generic Other (Reply #5)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 10:10 AM

13. My only hesitancy is our Sheriff is (cough) greatly influenced

by our Republicans.
I am considering asking them officially if Clements reported me as having made threats to his family. THAT I would like documented

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Response to duhneece (Reply #13)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 11:01 AM

29. I experienced death threats through my work

The local cops took a report, but so did the FBI, maybe because most of the threats came from out of state. Anyway, I 100% know what you are going through. Don't let the creeps get to you. Most are far too chicken to act. They simply hope to scare you into silence.

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Response to Generic Other (Reply #29)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 11:16 AM

31. Our local cops are 'owned' by Republicans

I AM going to report to them and document whether Clements reported my making threats as he said I did.

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Response to duhneece (Original post)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 09:28 AM

6. Done!

Thank you for standing up to the fascist!

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Response to denvine (Reply #6)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 10:13 AM

16. DU has given me strength and courage

Honestly, 25 years ago I wouldn’t have understood, but this is where I go to vent, celebrate, inform myself, feel understood, express absolute despair… and get a backbone, feel curiosity, gain a sense of strength.

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Response to duhneece (Original post)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 09:38 AM

7. Done 💗

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Response to MLAA (Reply #7)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 10:14 AM

17. I appreciate it. We're lifted with your help nt

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Response to duhneece (Original post)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 10:06 AM

10. These people don't really want a civil war

They just want to incite violence and mob rule in order to control America for their profit. They want to make those who don't agree with their political/religious idiocy suffer and live in constant fear. The states are way too intertwined with finances and econonmies to pull away. It will cost their filthy rich backers way too much profit, loot and federal subsides.

"Griffin in those public statements consistently used tactics that can incite people to become violent.
Clements and his telegram followers use these same tactics during their recruitment meetings on his social media that normalize violence, by saying things like using terms like firing squads."

This is the very definition of terrorism. Stochastic Terrorism: the public demonization of a person or group resulting in the incitement of a violent act, which is statistically probable but whose specifics cannot be predicted.

I don't think our justice system understands Stochastic Terrorism and allows it to flourish.

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Response to Farmer-Rick (Reply #10)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 10:18 AM

18. Whew! You get it completely

DU has inspired me speak up, given me a sense of power to do what needs to be done, including filing for information or making an attorney complaint to our Supreme Court (I think in some states the state’s Bae Association handles them)

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Response to duhneece (Reply #18)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 10:23 AM

19. Hmm good point

Maybe start educating our political system on how terrorism works.

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Response to Farmer-Rick (Reply #19)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 10:49 AM

27. And by reporting it, they can't say they never saw it coming

I’ll report it and ask if Clements reported my threats this week.

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Response to duhneece (Original post)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 10:11 AM

14. Don't remember where I picked up this information years ago

but one of the tell tell signs when someone is lying is they blink a lot when telling their story.
Clements blinks a lot in the supplied video, he's lying his ass off. Please stay safe.

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Response to KS Toronado (Reply #14)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 10:25 AM

21. Interesting. I remember hearing that, too, but hadn't noticed

We try to be observant during our rallies and going & coming from meetings but have expressed our awareness of the potential for violence.
We won’t back down. We won’t remain silent.

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Response to KS Toronado (Reply #14)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 06:08 PM

60. Either that or their contact lenses are messing up!


The guys Duhneece is talking about ARE lying. You should watch videos of their meetings.

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Response to duhneece (Original post)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 10:11 AM

15. Stay safe! Thank you for your good work!

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Response to burrowowl (Reply #15)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 10:26 AM

22. I do it with the support of DU

It really is a family

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Response to duhneece (Original post)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 10:25 AM

20. Added Stephanie DuBois to my future list of people to donate to.

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Response to Wednesdays (Reply #20)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 10:31 AM

24. We will make good use of it.

We’re in the process of designing/ ordering signs, creating materials for canvassing, all the social media platforms…
We are getting stronger every day. More people are attending meetings and speaking ip, becoming informed….
All with your help.

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Response to Wednesdays (Reply #20)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 10:35 AM

25. Thank you!

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Response to StephanieDubois (Reply #25)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 01:18 PM

38. All the best!

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Response to duhneece (Original post)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 10:29 AM

23. K and r for visibility.

Stay safe!

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Response to BlackSkimmer (Reply #23)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 10:44 AM

26. Doing my best while ....

I don’t let the bastards get me down.

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Response to duhneece (Original post)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 10:51 AM

28. I'm appalled the commission let that happen

I was at the meeting where the Clements presented their claims that have already been refuted by the NM SOS and a Congressional committee.

https://www.alamogordonews.com/story/news/2022/08/18/us-congressional-report-says-otero-county-commissioners-taken-in-by-grifters-spreading-misinformatio/65404903007/

The county commissioners just sat there and let Clements talk about you you for their own propoganda film, and I wasn't the only person in the audience disgusted by their actions.

This isn't going to end until we can get the people that align themselves with the Clements out of office.

Thank you all for the donations.

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Response to duhneece (Original post)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 11:01 AM

30. Communicate this to two places beyond DU.

(You may already be doing this; they may have told you not to talk about that, so excuse me if I'm covering ground you've already gone over.)

Collect all the evidence you can. The screen shots from social media, the communications from friends detailing where and how they have heard your name mentioned with potentially menacing intent, etc.

Package this evidence with a cover that explains how/why you feel particularly vulnerable, without too many details.

Then, first communicate with 1) Grisham's office; 2) Tim Johnson's (State Police) office, and 3) Jason Bowie's (Dept. of Public Safety) office. Let each of them know you are sharing the same information with all three of them, and that you want comment or information from them on how they will respond to this, before you put together a package for the media. (If you already have a media contact or two you can mention, that might be helpful.)

Also communicate with the staff of whichever of our two Senators you have the best relationship with, explain that you feel threatened and why, and you'd like to know which Federal law enforcement agency you should be communicating with and how, and can they help put you in touch with them? Share the information referenced above if it seems useful.

Do NOT blow this off, duhneece. This is serious shit. Your life may indeed be in danger, possibly imminent danger - but ALSO, this is part of a normalization of violent rhetoric and behavior that has serious and wide-ranging consequences for politics throughout our state as well as nationally. Shine the light on them. Especially if you get blown off.

"For every one that does evil hates the light..."

concernedly,
Bright

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Response to TygrBright (Reply #30)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 11:47 AM

34. +++. I agree. Proper precaution is absolutely

necessary these days. Keeping authorities “informed” is paramount. This is about terrorism.

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Response to TygrBright (Reply #30)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 02:34 PM

43. I've been hesitant to do more

But I will take your advice.
I’ll send you a message when I’m done.
Now explain why I’m crying. Happy tears, mind you.

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Response to duhneece (Reply #43)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 11:47 PM

68. Because feeling threatened and at risk is a very 'alone' feeling. But you are NOT alone.

It's important that bullies like this have the light shone upon them by people of courage.

For every one who has the courage and the friends giving them support, there may be another, maybe several others, who are truly alone and immobilized by the bullying.

Standing up to them, shining the light on them, isn't just about standing up for yourself, but for all the others they feel free to attempt to victimize with impunity.

Even if you get little in the way of response, putting together the evidence, documenting what they are doing, and putting it in the hands of those whose responsibility is to keep people safe, is shining the light. Eventually it WILL have an effect.

Stand strong, you're not alone.

encouragingly,
Bright

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Response to TygrBright (Reply #68)

Sun Aug 21, 2022, 09:02 AM

69. I disagree on only one point

Those particular tears were relief, that moment when I knew you were with me, in my corner. That relief that comes with NOT being alone.

You’re right that we model courage and strength (even when we’re not feeling either) for others.

You’ll be happy seeing others speak up, attending their first meetings after watching Stephanie and me… when we make a video of them and share on DU. We really are making a difference. Together

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Response to TygrBright (Reply #30)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 07:21 PM

62. This sounds like very good advice

Seems like Trump gave a lot of people the courage to be bullies. The only way to stand up to a bully is exactly what you are doing - pushing back hard, and publicly.

But it can also take a heavy toll on you. Your peeps on DU are here for you anytime you need to vent.

Take special care of yourself Duhneece.

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Response to jmbar2 (Reply #62)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 08:23 PM

65. It's incredible that just knowing I can vent, bitch, whine....

And someone on DU will reach out. Then I am restored to my activist energy.

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Response to TygrBright (Reply #30)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 07:37 PM

63. +1000

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Response to duhneece (Original post)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 11:21 AM

32. Anyone who pisses off these cretins is doing something right

Playing the daddy card is really, really low.

The only response to him is that his children would be eating well if he'd behaved himself instead of declaring war on his own country.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #32)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 02:35 PM

44. Good response

I just screenshot your response. I imagine I’ll have a chance to use it.

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Response to duhneece (Original post)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 11:42 AM

33. Yeah, duhneece, thank you for all the hard

work you are doing down there in Otero County to preserve and restore electoral sanity. You have remarkable courage. I will definitely be making a contribution to Stephanie’s campaign. (Just as soon as I get out of bed and make the morning coffee —

Thanks also for keeping us informed from the front lines. It helps make this seemingly crazy dream that much more real and tangible.

God bless you and keep you safe.

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Response to KPN (Reply #33)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 02:38 PM

45. Thank you for giving me support

It would be impossible without it.

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Response to duhneece (Original post)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 12:25 PM

35. I just topped off your goal, but it isn't showing on the graphic yet! :-) nt

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Response to Lisa0825 (Reply #35)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 12:27 PM

36. Posted! Your goal has now been raised! $1500 -- $2500

$1500 - $2500

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Response to Lisa0825 (Reply #36)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 02:40 PM

46. Really, you can't imagine how much your generous spirit

Makes it possible for us to put one foot in front of the other when I’m feeling despair.
Thank you.

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Response to duhneece (Original post)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 12:34 PM

37. Sue em

Last edited Sat Aug 20, 2022, 01:17 PM - Edit history (2)

Several retired judges around there, without respect to party, know the difference between right and wrong. Check around. Consider contacting the ACLU, the Southern Poverty Law Center or a similar organization for legal representation. Gerry Spence or another plaintiffs’ attorney, might work, too. This is actionable.

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Response to Ponietz (Reply #37)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 02:43 PM

47. I've contacted ACLU

I’ve called 20 attorneys. No one is a PLAINTIFF slander attorney… even among my attorney friends, no one (yet) is willing to take case.
I’m not stopping from calling them out.

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Response to Ponietz (Reply #79)

Sun Aug 28, 2022, 04:24 PM

80. I hadn't seen that. Thanks. Tomorrow, written closing arguments

Then 10 days before the judge HAS to respond but we’re hoping for a quicker response.

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Response to duhneece (Original post)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 01:22 PM

39. ❤️ I just dropped off my donation at Act Blue. Don't Let the Bastards Grind You Down.

Thank you for all you do. 🌺

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Response to Hekate (Reply #39)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 02:45 PM

48. I constantly have Tom Petty's 'No, I won't back down'

Playing in the back of my mind.. sometimes a little too much, all day long. Lol

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Response to duhneece (Original post)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 01:27 PM

40. Done

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Response to NBachers (Reply #40)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 02:47 PM

49. Thank you

I’m not alone when I have your support.

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Response to NBachers (Reply #40)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 03:10 PM

53. Thank you!!

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Response to duhneece (Original post)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 02:18 PM

41. I'm so sorry you're being Attacked

by a dangerous Crazy magat, Duhneece

David Clements Needed to be Reported!!

Always Be Safe!

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Response to Cha (Reply #41)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 02:49 PM

50. I've reported him to ACLU and our NM Supreme Court.

I’ve been given more places to report him from my DU family and you’d better believe, I’ll do that

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Response to duhneece (Reply #50)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 02:53 PM

52. Mahalo for being So PRO ACTION

For Our Democracy, Denise!

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Response to Cha (Reply #52)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 04:49 PM

55. My good friend, Cha! I couldn't do it without you

I hope you’re doing well. We’re enjoying cooler than normal weather with better than normal rain so life is good.

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Response to duhneece (Reply #55)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 05:19 PM

58. Love you Denise! Your

weather sounds great!

We need Rain of all places!

Loving all the Great work that Pres Biden & the Dems are getting Accomplished! :

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Response to duhneece (Original post)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 02:23 PM

42. that is just awful duhneece...

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Response to Peacetrain (Reply #42)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 02:52 PM

51. I'm glad I have a place to share my fears, hopes

And feel understood and lifted up by the support.
Honestly, I couldn’t do it without you.

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Response to duhneece (Original post)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 04:26 PM

54. Clements is at the Moment of Truth summit this weekend

The domestic terrorist is now hanging out with high profile election deniers this weekend. His link to the upper echelon right wingers is scary.

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Response to StephanieDubois (Reply #54)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 04:51 PM

56. You've showed us how scary this man is

As well as being big-fucking nuts.

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Response to duhneece (Original post)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 05:16 PM

57. Be careful!

Please do report this to every authority imaginable. Make it common knowledge.

The DU family is a great one, but we are not there with you physically. Take steps to defend yourself if necessary. Try not to be alone if at all possible. Have someone always know your coming’s and going’s and check in frequently. Make it known that you are doing this.

As is my practice, I will be praying for you. Thank you for your courage, your strength and your tenacity.

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Response to hamsterjill (Reply #57)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 08:20 PM

64. I will report starting on Monday

Thank you for your prayers. I know they give me strength and comfort.

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Response to duhneece (Original post)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 05:23 PM

59. I had a right-wing threatening to dox me on a local FB site in Florida

Several years back. He had info. That could only be found by some digging and probably some hacking. I bailed, blocked and gtf off of there permanently.

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Response to JCMach1 (Reply #59)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 08:28 PM

66. I'm sorry you had to go through that

Our right wing grifters, traitors and Republicans have my address. I’ve lived here 40 years, have been a vocal opponent for 20 years.
I’m extra cautious, more alert.. and super grateful for a big, protective cow dog.

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Response to duhneece (Original post)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 06:56 PM

61. Please keep yourself and your family safe, duhneece.

I am so sorry you and Stephanie are being so viciously attacked.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #61)

Mon Aug 22, 2022, 10:04 AM

76. We are trying to be extra alert and cautious

And trying to balance that with speaking out and following up on what we hear.

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Response to duhneece (Original post)

Sat Aug 20, 2022, 08:50 PM

67. The judge who merely slapped Griffin's wrist should be made aware of this.

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Response to duhneece (Original post)

Sun Aug 21, 2022, 09:10 AM

70. In my experience, once you're on their radar...

they don't let go.

I was targeted in 2010 because my organization was dissed on Glenn Beck's Fox TV and radio shows, on his infamous blackboard. I only learned about it when I started getting threats via email and messaging through all social media accounts, and then it progressed to phone calls and more. It didn't help that I have a neighbor who is one of them, so I was doxxed.

This is when they were called the Alt-Right. I called them Nazis back then because that's what they are, and that's been proven true over the last 12 years. Once my child and grandchild moved in here, at my child's request, I couldn't risk harm to them so I have kept a very low profile. It's infuriating and miserable.

Best wishes to you!!! We can't let them win.

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Response to OneGrassRoot (Reply #70)

Sun Aug 21, 2022, 09:13 AM

71. Good grief! That would scare me to death. nt

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Response to leftyladyfrommo (Reply #71)

Sun Aug 21, 2022, 09:22 AM

72. You know what's also interesting?

A few years after that initial onslaught, my websites were attacked. DoS (denial of service) attacks. Computer experts fought and monitored it for about a year and it was entirely by Russian IPs.

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Response to OneGrassRoot (Reply #72)

Sun Aug 21, 2022, 09:36 AM

73. That's scary. In about a thousand ways.

China and Russia have tentacles everywhere.

Four years of being allowed to run amok have done irreparable damage.

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Response to leftyladyfrommo (Reply #73)

Sun Aug 21, 2022, 09:53 AM

74. Yes, indeed. n/t

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Response to OneGrassRoot (Reply #70)

Mon Aug 22, 2022, 10:07 AM

77. I understand infuriating and miserable

When my husband got sick, he wanted me to stop.
I can’t. Not altogether. That’s why I didn’t run for office and recruited Stephanie.
And sometimes I don’t tell him all I’m doing. It feels dishonest but it’s the best balance I can do right now.

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Response to duhneece (Reply #77)

Mon Aug 22, 2022, 10:27 AM

78. I hear you...

I keep doing things covertly as much as I can too...lol.

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Response to duhneece (Original post)

Mon Aug 22, 2022, 06:34 AM

75. Kick

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