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duhneece

(4,112 posts)
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 08:25 AM Aug 2022

Duer duhneece is targeted by a right-wing domestic terrorist.


I thought my friend Donna was a wee bit paranoid. She phoned me Thursday before last to tell me to be extra cautious as my name had been mentioned by the election-denier, grifter, attorney David Clements during a county commission meeting, packed full with right-wing supporters of Clements and Cowboys for Trump, Jan 6 criminal Couy Griffin. Clements complained bitterly that I had filed an official complaint against him with the New Mexico Supreme Court and my complaint had initiated an investigation.

Then over last weekend, he complained about me again in a Facebook post. I got a few more calls and folks tell me that they think our county is where the next civil war begins or next mass shooting.

Then he posted a video. He says in the video that he has over 100,000 followers and whines that my complaint is taking food from his children’s mouths.

Video here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lgDzJapXp-pBpFQZZDELlipxjsRmgOOy/view

More about Clements here, including NPR, report: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216961511

Clements friend, Couy Griffin uses tactics of normalizing violence with his speeches he made when he joined Women for America First on the bus tour across the country. He urged Trump supporters to rally at the Capitol on Jan. 6, saying there should be martial law and we are a nation at war. He continued to speak favorably of the riot in the days after the attack in videos he posted on social media.

Witness at Couy’s 14th Amendment trial to remove him from office last week, Rachel Kleinfeld said during his trial that Griffin in those public statements consistently used tactics that can incite people to become violent.
Clements and his telegram followers use these same tactics during their recruitment meetings on his social media that normalize violence, by saying things like using terms like firing squads as seen in this telgram shot from his channel.



Remember, this is the county where our commissioner’s “The only good Democrat is a dead Democrat” video got retweeted by the former President. Same commissioner who has been banned by the Mescalero Apache reservation. Same commission district that my friend Stephanie DuBois is running for. We are doing all we can to stop this madness but we need your help. We need your support. This is what we have to counter.

Donate here: https://secure.actblue.com/donate/dufordubois22

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Duer duhneece is targeted by a right-wing domestic terrorist. (Original Post) duhneece Aug 2022 OP
Thank you for your efforts. Hard to believe where we are these days in this country. Well, on second dameatball Aug 2022 #1
Thank you duhneece Aug 2022 #8
Stay safe! Marthe48 Aug 2022 #2
Exactly. They don't believe we're a nation of laws duhneece Aug 2022 #9
Done mgardener Aug 2022 #3
Appreciated duhneece Aug 2022 #11
K & R...for visibility...nt Wounded Bear Aug 2022 #4
Thank you nt duhneece Aug 2022 #12
Be careful Generic Other Aug 2022 #5
My only hesitancy is our Sheriff is (cough) greatly influenced duhneece Aug 2022 #13
I experienced death threats through my work Generic Other Aug 2022 #29
Our local cops are 'owned' by Republicans duhneece Aug 2022 #31
Done! denvine Aug 2022 #6
DU has given me strength and courage duhneece Aug 2022 #16
Done 💗 MLAA Aug 2022 #7
I appreciate it. We're lifted with your help nt duhneece Aug 2022 #17
These people don't really want a civil war Farmer-Rick Aug 2022 #10
Whew! You get it completely duhneece Aug 2022 #18
Hmm good point Farmer-Rick Aug 2022 #19
And by reporting it, they can't say they never saw it coming duhneece Aug 2022 #27
Don't remember where I picked up this information years ago KS Toronado Aug 2022 #14
Interesting. I remember hearing that, too, but hadn't noticed duhneece Aug 2022 #21
Either that or their contact lenses are messing up! BComplex Aug 2022 #60
Stay safe! Thank you for your good work! burrowowl Aug 2022 #15
I do it with the support of DU duhneece Aug 2022 #22
Added Stephanie DuBois to my future list of people to donate to. Wednesdays Aug 2022 #20
We will make good use of it. duhneece Aug 2022 #24
Thank you! StephanieDubois Aug 2022 #25
All the best! Hekate Aug 2022 #38
K and r for visibility. BlackSkimmer Aug 2022 #23
Doing my best while .... duhneece Aug 2022 #26
I'm appalled the commission let that happen StephanieDubois Aug 2022 #28
Communicate this to two places beyond DU. TygrBright Aug 2022 #30
+++. I agree. Proper precaution is absolutely KPN Aug 2022 #34
I've been hesitant to do more duhneece Aug 2022 #43
Because feeling threatened and at risk is a very 'alone' feeling. But you are NOT alone. TygrBright Aug 2022 #68
I disagree on only one point duhneece Aug 2022 #69
This sounds like very good advice jmbar2 Aug 2022 #62
It's incredible that just knowing I can vent, bitch, whine.... duhneece Aug 2022 #65
+1000 ancianita Aug 2022 #63
Anyone who pisses off these cretins is doing something right Warpy Aug 2022 #32
Good response duhneece Aug 2022 #44
Yeah, duhneece, thank you for all the hard KPN Aug 2022 #33
Thank you for giving me support duhneece Aug 2022 #45
I just topped off your goal, but it isn't showing on the graphic yet! :-) nt Lisa0825 Aug 2022 #35
Posted! Your goal has now been raised! $1500 -- $2500 Lisa0825 Aug 2022 #36
Really, you can't imagine how much your generous spirit duhneece Aug 2022 #46
Sue em Ponietz Aug 2022 #37
I've contacted ACLU duhneece Aug 2022 #47
I see good news! Ponietz Aug 2022 #79
I hadn't seen that. Thanks. Tomorrow, written closing arguments duhneece Aug 2022 #80
❤️ I just dropped off my donation at Act Blue. Don't Let the Bastards Grind You Down. Hekate Aug 2022 #39
I constantly have Tom Petty's 'No, I won't back down' duhneece Aug 2022 #48
Done NBachers Aug 2022 #40
Thank you duhneece Aug 2022 #49
Thank you!! StephanieDubois Aug 2022 #53
I'm so sorry you're being Attacked Cha Aug 2022 #41
I've reported him to ACLU and our NM Supreme Court. duhneece Aug 2022 #50
Mahalo for being So PRO ACTION Cha Aug 2022 #52
My good friend, Cha! I couldn't do it without you duhneece Aug 2022 #55
Love you Denise! Your Cha Aug 2022 #58
that is just awful duhneece... Peacetrain Aug 2022 #42
I'm glad I have a place to share my fears, hopes duhneece Aug 2022 #51
Clements is at the Moment of Truth summit this weekend StephanieDubois Aug 2022 #54
You've showed us how scary this man is duhneece Aug 2022 #56
Be careful! hamsterjill Aug 2022 #57
I will report starting on Monday duhneece Aug 2022 #64
I had a right-wing threatening to dox me on a local FB site in Florida JCMach1 Aug 2022 #59
I'm sorry you had to go through that duhneece Aug 2022 #66
Please keep yourself and your family safe, duhneece. sheshe2 Aug 2022 #61
We are trying to be extra alert and cautious duhneece Aug 2022 #76
The judge who merely slapped Griffin's wrist should be made aware of this. Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2022 #67
In my experience, once you're on their radar... OneGrassRoot Aug 2022 #70
Good grief! That would scare me to death. nt leftyladyfrommo Aug 2022 #71
You know what's also interesting? OneGrassRoot Aug 2022 #72
That's scary. In about a thousand ways. leftyladyfrommo Aug 2022 #73
Yes, indeed. n/t OneGrassRoot Aug 2022 #74
I understand infuriating and miserable duhneece Aug 2022 #77
I hear you... OneGrassRoot Aug 2022 #78
Kick Omaha Steve Aug 2022 #75

dameatball

(7,396 posts)
1. Thank you for your efforts. Hard to believe where we are these days in this country. Well, on second
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 08:39 AM
Aug 2022

thought, not so hard to believe I suppose. Donation sent.

duhneece

(4,112 posts)
9. Exactly. They don't believe we're a nation of laws
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 10:06 AM
Aug 2022

But they’re just grifting.. .and issuing veiled threats. I won’t back down.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
5. Be careful
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 09:26 AM
Aug 2022

Stay safe.

Try not to worry about their threats. Put 911 on speed dial. Call the FBI. Make a complaint there. They take these things seriously.

duhneece

(4,112 posts)
13. My only hesitancy is our Sheriff is (cough) greatly influenced
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 10:10 AM
Aug 2022

by our Republicans.
I am considering asking them officially if Clements reported me as having made threats to his family. THAT I would like documented

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
29. I experienced death threats through my work
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 11:01 AM
Aug 2022

The local cops took a report, but so did the FBI, maybe because most of the threats came from out of state. Anyway, I 100% know what you are going through. Don't let the creeps get to you. Most are far too chicken to act. They simply hope to scare you into silence.

duhneece

(4,112 posts)
31. Our local cops are 'owned' by Republicans
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 11:16 AM
Aug 2022

I AM going to report to them and document whether Clements reported my making threats as he said I did.

duhneece

(4,112 posts)
16. DU has given me strength and courage
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 10:13 AM
Aug 2022

Honestly, 25 years ago I wouldn’t have understood, but this is where I go to vent, celebrate, inform myself, feel understood, express absolute despair… and get a backbone, feel curiosity, gain a sense of strength.

Farmer-Rick

(10,154 posts)
10. These people don't really want a civil war
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 10:06 AM
Aug 2022

They just want to incite violence and mob rule in order to control America for their profit. They want to make those who don't agree with their political/religious idiocy suffer and live in constant fear. The states are way too intertwined with finances and econonmies to pull away. It will cost their filthy rich backers way too much profit, loot and federal subsides.

"Griffin in those public statements consistently used tactics that can incite people to become violent.
Clements and his telegram followers use these same tactics during their recruitment meetings on his social media that normalize violence, by saying things like using terms like firing squads."

This is the very definition of terrorism. Stochastic Terrorism: the public demonization of a person or group resulting in the incitement of a violent act, which is statistically probable but whose specifics cannot be predicted.

I don't think our justice system understands Stochastic Terrorism and allows it to flourish.

duhneece

(4,112 posts)
18. Whew! You get it completely
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 10:18 AM
Aug 2022

DU has inspired me speak up, given me a sense of power to do what needs to be done, including filing for information or making an attorney complaint to our Supreme Court (I think in some states the state’s Bae Association handles them)

duhneece

(4,112 posts)
27. And by reporting it, they can't say they never saw it coming
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 10:49 AM
Aug 2022

I’ll report it and ask if Clements reported my threats this week.

KS Toronado

(17,199 posts)
14. Don't remember where I picked up this information years ago
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 10:11 AM
Aug 2022

but one of the tell tell signs when someone is lying is they blink a lot when telling their story.
Clements blinks a lot in the supplied video, he's lying his ass off. Please stay safe.

duhneece

(4,112 posts)
21. Interesting. I remember hearing that, too, but hadn't noticed
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 10:25 AM
Aug 2022

We try to be observant during our rallies and going & coming from meetings but have expressed our awareness of the potential for violence.
We won’t back down. We won’t remain silent.

BComplex

(8,036 posts)
60. Either that or their contact lenses are messing up!
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 06:08 PM
Aug 2022

The guys Duhneece is talking about ARE lying. You should watch videos of their meetings.

duhneece

(4,112 posts)
24. We will make good use of it.
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 10:31 AM
Aug 2022

We’re in the process of designing/ ordering signs, creating materials for canvassing, all the social media platforms…
We are getting stronger every day. More people are attending meetings and speaking ip, becoming informed….
All with your help.

StephanieDubois

(22 posts)
28. I'm appalled the commission let that happen
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 10:51 AM
Aug 2022

I was at the meeting where the Clements presented their claims that have already been refuted by the NM SOS and a Congressional committee.

https://www.alamogordonews.com/story/news/2022/08/18/us-congressional-report-says-otero-county-commissioners-taken-in-by-grifters-spreading-misinformatio/65404903007/

The county commissioners just sat there and let Clements talk about you you for their own propoganda film, and I wasn't the only person in the audience disgusted by their actions.

This isn't going to end until we can get the people that align themselves with the Clements out of office.

Thank you all for the donations.

TygrBright

(20,758 posts)
30. Communicate this to two places beyond DU.
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 11:01 AM
Aug 2022

(You may already be doing this; they may have told you not to talk about that, so excuse me if I'm covering ground you've already gone over.)

Collect all the evidence you can. The screen shots from social media, the communications from friends detailing where and how they have heard your name mentioned with potentially menacing intent, etc.

Package this evidence with a cover that explains how/why you feel particularly vulnerable, without too many details.

Then, first communicate with 1) Grisham's office; 2) Tim Johnson's (State Police) office, and 3) Jason Bowie's (Dept. of Public Safety) office. Let each of them know you are sharing the same information with all three of them, and that you want comment or information from them on how they will respond to this, before you put together a package for the media. (If you already have a media contact or two you can mention, that might be helpful.)

Also communicate with the staff of whichever of our two Senators you have the best relationship with, explain that you feel threatened and why, and you'd like to know which Federal law enforcement agency you should be communicating with and how, and can they help put you in touch with them? Share the information referenced above if it seems useful.

Do NOT blow this off, duhneece. This is serious shit. Your life may indeed be in danger, possibly imminent danger - but ALSO, this is part of a normalization of violent rhetoric and behavior that has serious and wide-ranging consequences for politics throughout our state as well as nationally. Shine the light on them. Especially if you get blown off.

"For every one that does evil hates the light..."

concernedly,
Bright

KPN

(15,642 posts)
34. +++. I agree. Proper precaution is absolutely
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 11:47 AM
Aug 2022

necessary these days. Keeping authorities “informed” is paramount. This is about terrorism.

duhneece

(4,112 posts)
43. I've been hesitant to do more
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 02:34 PM
Aug 2022

But I will take your advice.
I’ll send you a message when I’m done.
Now explain why I’m crying. Happy tears, mind you.

TygrBright

(20,758 posts)
68. Because feeling threatened and at risk is a very 'alone' feeling. But you are NOT alone.
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 11:47 PM
Aug 2022

It's important that bullies like this have the light shone upon them by people of courage.

For every one who has the courage and the friends giving them support, there may be another, maybe several others, who are truly alone and immobilized by the bullying.

Standing up to them, shining the light on them, isn't just about standing up for yourself, but for all the others they feel free to attempt to victimize with impunity.

Even if you get little in the way of response, putting together the evidence, documenting what they are doing, and putting it in the hands of those whose responsibility is to keep people safe, is shining the light. Eventually it WILL have an effect.

Stand strong, you're not alone.

encouragingly,
Bright

duhneece

(4,112 posts)
69. I disagree on only one point
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 09:02 AM
Aug 2022

Those particular tears were relief, that moment when I knew you were with me, in my corner. That relief that comes with NOT being alone.

You’re right that we model courage and strength (even when we’re not feeling either) for others.

You’ll be happy seeing others speak up, attending their first meetings after watching Stephanie and me… when we make a video of them and share on DU. We really are making a difference. Together

jmbar2

(4,874 posts)
62. This sounds like very good advice
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 07:21 PM
Aug 2022

Seems like Trump gave a lot of people the courage to be bullies. The only way to stand up to a bully is exactly what you are doing - pushing back hard, and publicly.

But it can also take a heavy toll on you. Your peeps on DU are here for you anytime you need to vent.

Take special care of yourself Duhneece.

duhneece

(4,112 posts)
65. It's incredible that just knowing I can vent, bitch, whine....
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 08:23 PM
Aug 2022

And someone on DU will reach out. Then I am restored to my activist energy.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
32. Anyone who pisses off these cretins is doing something right
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 11:21 AM
Aug 2022

Playing the daddy card is really, really low.

The only response to him is that his children would be eating well if he'd behaved himself instead of declaring war on his own country.

KPN

(15,642 posts)
33. Yeah, duhneece, thank you for all the hard
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 11:42 AM
Aug 2022

work you are doing down there in Otero County to preserve and restore electoral sanity. You have remarkable courage. I will definitely be making a contribution to Stephanie’s campaign. (Just as soon as I get out of bed and make the morning coffee —

Thanks also for keeping us informed from the front lines. It helps make this seemingly crazy dream that much more real and tangible.

God bless you and keep you safe.

duhneece

(4,112 posts)
46. Really, you can't imagine how much your generous spirit
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 02:40 PM
Aug 2022

Makes it possible for us to put one foot in front of the other when I’m feeling despair.
Thank you.

Ponietz

(2,961 posts)
37. Sue em
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 12:34 PM
Aug 2022

Last edited Sat Aug 20, 2022, 01:17 PM - Edit history (2)

Several retired judges around there, without respect to party, know the difference between right and wrong. Check around. Consider contacting the ACLU, the Southern Poverty Law Center or a similar organization for legal representation. Gerry Spence or another plaintiffs’ attorney, might work, too. This is actionable.

duhneece

(4,112 posts)
47. I've contacted ACLU
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 02:43 PM
Aug 2022

I’ve called 20 attorneys. No one is a PLAINTIFF slander attorney… even among my attorney friends, no one (yet) is willing to take case.
I’m not stopping from calling them out.

duhneece

(4,112 posts)
80. I hadn't seen that. Thanks. Tomorrow, written closing arguments
Sun Aug 28, 2022, 04:24 PM
Aug 2022

Then 10 days before the judge HAS to respond but we’re hoping for a quicker response.

Hekate

(90,645 posts)
39. ❤️ I just dropped off my donation at Act Blue. Don't Let the Bastards Grind You Down.
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 01:22 PM
Aug 2022

Thank you for all you do. 🌺

duhneece

(4,112 posts)
48. I constantly have Tom Petty's 'No, I won't back down'
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 02:45 PM
Aug 2022

Playing in the back of my mind.. sometimes a little too much, all day long. Lol

Cha

(297,154 posts)
41. I'm so sorry you're being Attacked
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 02:18 PM
Aug 2022

by a dangerous Crazy magat, Duhneece

David Clements Needed to be Reported!!

Always Be Safe!

duhneece

(4,112 posts)
50. I've reported him to ACLU and our NM Supreme Court.
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 02:49 PM
Aug 2022

I’ve been given more places to report him from my DU family and you’d better believe, I’ll do that

duhneece

(4,112 posts)
55. My good friend, Cha! I couldn't do it without you
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 04:49 PM
Aug 2022

I hope you’re doing well. We’re enjoying cooler than normal weather with better than normal rain so life is good.

Cha

(297,154 posts)
58. Love you Denise! Your
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 05:19 PM
Aug 2022

weather sounds great!

We need Rain of all places!

Loving all the Great work that Pres Biden & the Dems are getting Accomplished! :

duhneece

(4,112 posts)
51. I'm glad I have a place to share my fears, hopes
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 02:52 PM
Aug 2022

And feel understood and lifted up by the support.
Honestly, I couldn’t do it without you.

StephanieDubois

(22 posts)
54. Clements is at the Moment of Truth summit this weekend
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 04:26 PM
Aug 2022

The domestic terrorist is now hanging out with high profile election deniers this weekend. His link to the upper echelon right wingers is scary.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
57. Be careful!
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 05:16 PM
Aug 2022

Please do report this to every authority imaginable. Make it common knowledge.

The DU family is a great one, but we are not there with you physically. Take steps to defend yourself if necessary. Try not to be alone if at all possible. Have someone always know your coming’s and going’s and check in frequently. Make it known that you are doing this.

As is my practice, I will be praying for you. Thank you for your courage, your strength and your tenacity.

duhneece

(4,112 posts)
64. I will report starting on Monday
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 08:20 PM
Aug 2022

Thank you for your prayers. I know they give me strength and comfort.

JCMach1

(27,556 posts)
59. I had a right-wing threatening to dox me on a local FB site in Florida
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 05:23 PM
Aug 2022

Several years back. He had info. That could only be found by some digging and probably some hacking. I bailed, blocked and gtf off of there permanently.

duhneece

(4,112 posts)
66. I'm sorry you had to go through that
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 08:28 PM
Aug 2022

Our right wing grifters, traitors and Republicans have my address. I’ve lived here 40 years, have been a vocal opponent for 20 years.
I’m extra cautious, more alert.. and super grateful for a big, protective cow dog.

sheshe2

(83,746 posts)
61. Please keep yourself and your family safe, duhneece.
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 06:56 PM
Aug 2022

I am so sorry you and Stephanie are being so viciously attacked.

duhneece

(4,112 posts)
76. We are trying to be extra alert and cautious
Mon Aug 22, 2022, 10:04 AM
Aug 2022

And trying to balance that with speaking out and following up on what we hear.

OneGrassRoot

(22,920 posts)
70. In my experience, once you're on their radar...
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 09:10 AM
Aug 2022

they don't let go.

I was targeted in 2010 because my organization was dissed on Glenn Beck's Fox TV and radio shows, on his infamous blackboard. I only learned about it when I started getting threats via email and messaging through all social media accounts, and then it progressed to phone calls and more. It didn't help that I have a neighbor who is one of them, so I was doxxed.

This is when they were called the Alt-Right. I called them Nazis back then because that's what they are, and that's been proven true over the last 12 years. Once my child and grandchild moved in here, at my child's request, I couldn't risk harm to them so I have kept a very low profile. It's infuriating and miserable.

Best wishes to you!!! We can't let them win.

OneGrassRoot

(22,920 posts)
72. You know what's also interesting?
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 09:22 AM
Aug 2022

A few years after that initial onslaught, my websites were attacked. DoS (denial of service) attacks. Computer experts fought and monitored it for about a year and it was entirely by Russian IPs.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
73. That's scary. In about a thousand ways.
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 09:36 AM
Aug 2022

China and Russia have tentacles everywhere.

Four years of being allowed to run amok have done irreparable damage.

duhneece

(4,112 posts)
77. I understand infuriating and miserable
Mon Aug 22, 2022, 10:07 AM
Aug 2022

When my husband got sick, he wanted me to stop.
I can’t. Not altogether. That’s why I didn’t run for office and recruited Stephanie.
And sometimes I don’t tell him all I’m doing. It feels dishonest but it’s the best balance I can do right now.

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