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babylonsister

(172,759 posts)
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 09:32 AM Aug 2022

CNN's new CEO met with GOP lawmakers to promise CNN will become more Republican



https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/8/19/2117719/-CNN-s-new-CEO-met-with-GOP-lawmakers-to-promise-CNN-will-become-more-Republican

CNN's new CEO met with GOP lawmakers to promise CNN will become more Republican
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Friday August 19, 2022 · 11:48 PM EDT
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Well, this is disturbing:

CNN's new CEO, Chris Licht, has been attending to an audience neglected by the network for the past several years: Republican lawmakers.

The network boss camped out in mid-July in a room on the first floor of the Senate side of the Capitol, S-120, where he asked GOP lawmakers to come talk with him privately. That arrangement avoided alerting the reporters who stalk the halls of the Capitol, sources said, and accommodated Republican lawmakers who preferred not to be seen hobnobbing with him.

Licht's message, according to one of the lawmakers who sat down with him as well as to several sources briefed on the exchanges: "We want to win back your trust."


What this moron fails to understand is that this is not about “being fair” to one side and not the other. At one point, when the Republican party stood for something and wasn’t a cult, you could have real arguments over ideology, policy, and even values. However, as a journalist, one thing you CANNOT do is ever give credence to lies.

When one party embraces a conspiracy theory that claims thousands of election officials, poll watchers, Republican governors, and Trump-appointed judges conspired with Joe Biden to create millions of bamboo ballots that marked him as president---but simultaneously marked Republicans down-ballot to throw people off the scent—there is no debate. There is no debate that Hillary and Obama ran a pedophile ring out of a pizza parlor in DC. There is no debate that the January 6th rioters weren’t tourists. There is no debate that climate change is happening. There is no debate that Trump wasn’t allowed to store nuclear secrets in his f’ing golf club basement.

Trump lied in office. Repeatedly. Yet news outlets were hesitant to call him out for lying. When he said Korean war veteran’s parents were “tweeting” him or that his inauguration was the largest crowd in US history, you have to call him out for lying. He is. You know it, and I know it. You don’t get to pretend that he has a valid point when you know damn well he doesn’t.

I get that CNN wants to be seen as “fair and balanced.” Yet the attacks from Trump and his cult didn’t happen because you were being unfair to him. They happened because you called him out on his B.S. You will never “regain trust” if you decide that’s what you need to do.

Do you really think having Sydney Powell or Mike Lindell on to rant without being challenged will save CNN? You will not convince one MAGA Republican to become a regular viewer without compromising your journalistic integrity. Period. What you will do is bleed the viewers you still have. If I want to be lied to, I can go to OAN, Newsmax, InfoWar, FoxNews, etc. They all have an agenda, and journalism isn’t it.

The GOP has devolved into a cult of personality that now justifies treason, insurrection and espionage. Promising QAnon and MAGA legislators a forum to spout nonsense and forbidding your hosts from challenging them serves no one, although that is what GOP legislators are asking for in return for considering to appear on CNN.

I know CNN’s ratings are suffering, but catering to right-wing extremists to feed their appetite for fake news won’t help you. Neither will killing shows like Reliable Sources. All you did was send a gift to your network’s worst critics that they were right about you. As Trump would say, “SAD!”
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CNN's new CEO met with GOP lawmakers to promise CNN will become more Republican (Original Post) babylonsister Aug 2022 OP
Oh wow, FOX Lite . . . . . no_hypocrisy Aug 2022 #1
AC and Jim Acosta are the only two I still watch. badhair77 Aug 2022 #2
AC and Acosta Only Ones Worth My Time Irishxs Aug 2022 #18
Don Lemon Rebl2 Aug 2022 #26
I haven't heard any lies coming out of Don Lemon's mouth. Ligyron Aug 2022 #48
Don Lemon's good NJCher Aug 2022 #53
That's what Rebl2 Aug 2022 #66
I like when Laura Coates fills in for him too. gldstwmn Aug 2022 #92
I heard on NPR that Stelter was let go because a wealthy Republican shareholder thought he Lonestarblue Aug 2022 #30
Stelter could be the next Bill Moyers House of Roberts Aug 2022 #40
No they Rebl2 Aug 2022 #68
I know jimfields33 Aug 2022 #8
Even MSNBC has gone GQP - Morning Joe sets the program for the day and each and every Hestia Aug 2022 #117
According to this, still TOO "Lite"? Maybe we should expect Hortensis Aug 2022 #14
Another propaganda arm of the GOP crime syndicate. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #3
This is a shock PatSeg Aug 2022 #56
The US oligarchs must double down now. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #62
True but they are not dealing PatSeg Aug 2022 #64
Even the crazy party gives the oligarchs what they want. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #67
Yep, been like that for a very long time PatSeg Aug 2022 #79
The oligarchs have alway been there. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #80
Yes and I know that there will always be PatSeg Aug 2022 #82
Every couple of generations we have to beat them down. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #83
I don't understand why we can't have a network. Peregrine Took Aug 2022 #4
There are a tonne of podcasts and steaming shows for this: Celerity Aug 2022 #16
Hey! BidenRocks Aug 2022 #99
Not to mention SiriusXM Progress! Crowman2009 Aug 2022 #103
Good point! Celerity Aug 2022 #116
Have you tried Free Speech TV? Earth-shine Aug 2022 #118
like it hasnt always been a worst case of bothsiderism for decades. mopinko Aug 2022 #5
I agree. CNN was never wholly journalistic. Cable and Prime Time are Republican owned. Period. live love laugh Aug 2022 #111
ya know, i was in a hotel room that only had cnn mopinko Aug 2022 #113
Sorry you had to endure that torture. live love laugh Aug 2022 #114
well it was worth it for one of the goodest boy to ever walk on 4 legs, so there's that. mopinko Aug 2022 #115
Exactly. FM123 Aug 2022 #6
And people here still watch cable news? ananda Aug 2022 #7
👍🏼👍🏼 IrishAfricanAmerican Aug 2022 #35
Curious, what are your news sources? walkingman Aug 2022 #39
Plenty on the internet, and of course here at DU. ananda Aug 2022 #69
Bbc, guardian, al Jazeera, for black news newsone, and root news. Nt childfreebychoice Aug 2022 #72
Thanks, how about TV news on my big screen? Like CNN or MSNBC - for example, I can listen to Fox walkingman Aug 2022 #124
I am a bit skeptical of the internet because truthfully I can find pretty much anything walkingman Aug 2022 #123
I watch CSPAN a lot when they are in session. True Blue American Aug 2022 #96
I can't believe that people will actually pay for cable anyway. llmart Aug 2022 #49
Not this person.. I Sopped All Cha Aug 2022 #77
They have been going that direction for some time already, even before Licht JohnSJ Aug 2022 #9
??? aquaman Aug 2022 #10
Thank you! It only encourages them. nt Carlitos Brigante Aug 2022 #13
+1 2naSalit Aug 2022 #29
I have threatened my wife with putting CNN on HAB911 Aug 2022 #11
They will get the message The Third Doctor Aug 2022 #12
Absolutely padah513 Aug 2022 #17
Yup. Their ratings are already third of the three cable news networks. SoFloDenny Aug 2022 #20
+1, it doesn't matter if MAGA filled the network the letters *CNN* will never be accepted by MAGA uponit7771 Aug 2022 #44
GOP will still attack it as part of the liberal media Mr. Ected Aug 2022 #15
Democrats watch Fox Sympthsical Aug 2022 #122
It'll be interesting to see Stephen Colbert's reaction to this.... OnDoutside Aug 2022 #19
It has nothing to do with balance Steve Canuck Aug 2022 #21
And who made him CEO? 3825-87867 Aug 2022 #22
It might be more appropriate to change that title to read.... Elwood P Dowd Aug 2022 #23
CNN has sucked ever since Ted Turner sold them. Good riddance Meadowoak Aug 2022 #24
That was the last time I watched CNN. HN died after Turner sold 'em, too. Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2022 #65
+1 Meadowoak Aug 2022 #71
if you missed Keith Olbermann yesterday, you should take a listen CatWoman Aug 2022 #25
Good on you for posting KOs podcast ..he was so clear about the people NOW at CNN..the history asiliveandbreathe Aug 2022 #60
as with Marcos CatWoman Aug 2022 #97
Keith still has his own forum here on DU BigmanPigman Aug 2022 #104
So great having KO back! I have not missed a podcast episode yet ZonkerHarris Aug 2022 #75
Pardon me, but how about just giving us the actual news ashredux Aug 2022 #27
But the advertising dollars. Oh the humanity! twodogsbarking Aug 2022 #28
On any podcast you can skip ahead beyond ads...just sayin...KO delivers...just the facts.. asiliveandbreathe Aug 2022 #98
IKR ... just report whatever happens truthfully. Too bad we can't get that. live love laugh Aug 2022 #112
Well that just takes the fucking cake. BlueIdaho Aug 2022 #31
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Heather MC Aug 2022 #32
Certainly Not News AZLD4Candidate Aug 2022 #52
Definitely not 🤦🏾‍♀️ Heather MC Aug 2022 #63
Stupid strategy mcar Aug 2022 #33
MSNBCs like, " oh, goodie". BradBo Aug 2022 #34
Fine!! STOP WATCHING please!! Consider it your contribution to democratic messaging PortTack Aug 2022 #36
This is how we got to the miserable state of journalism today wryter2000 Aug 2022 #37
This won't change anything I do. I already don't watch Con News Network. onecaliberal Aug 2022 #38
i watch msnbc but try to watch cnn to keep their ratings up. No more. samsingh Aug 2022 #41
The corporate media is Uncle Joe Aug 2022 #42
"we want to win back your trust" DonCoquixote Aug 2022 #43
CNN is Fox News Lite Raster Aug 2022 #45
I'll never watch CNN again Dave says Aug 2022 #46
All of networks are owned by American Oligarchs tiredtoo Aug 2022 #47
Start a petition: Ask CNN's bd. of directors to fire this CEO! Liberty Belle Aug 2022 #50
They should bring back Crossfire gulliver Aug 2022 #51
Wow TFRD Aug 2022 #54
Why would you want the trust of a group that is completely untrustworthy? tanyev Aug 2022 #55
How bout just report the damn facts? we can do it Aug 2022 #57
THE NEW CNN Jimvanhise Aug 2022 #58
Let the boycott of their advertisers begin. This is where the power of the wallet & pocketbook, Hotler Aug 2022 #59
Time to unsubscribe from their YouTube channel. KY_EnviroGuy Aug 2022 #61
You can get a free stream of MSNBC not fooled Aug 2022 #94
Tapper & Acosta could be next WorkDoctor Aug 2022 #70
FoxNews Light? There'll be an exodus of news pundits. Joinfortmill Aug 2022 #73
MORE FASCIST & LESS REALITY! FUCK Cha Aug 2022 #74
The Wealth class Republican owned media exposed. pwb Aug 2022 #76
This should definitely help MSNBC's ratings even more! n/t AntiFascist Aug 2022 #78
News should not have a poltical slant period. andym Aug 2022 #81
Oh, wonderful. Fox Lite. Vinca Aug 2022 #84
Win back the trust of a party that tried to overthrow mzmolly Aug 2022 #85
Keith Olbermann was talking about this on his Friday podcast. ificandream Aug 2022 #86
All cable news is shit. BannonsLiver Aug 2022 #87
if rethugs hate you, i means you are doing your job correct Takket Aug 2022 #88
Look at this chart..... fox has double the viewer$ IcyPeas Aug 2022 #89
Corporations love repubs and visa vera RANDYWILDMAN Aug 2022 #90
When anchors start resigning orangecrush Aug 2022 #91
Listen to Keith Olbermann's new Countdown podcast... he's got some stories about Licht budkin Aug 2022 #93
This content is not subject to review by Daily Kos staff prior to publication Just A Box Of Rain Aug 2022 #95
I've never been a fan of CNN and it's now another reason for me to not turn on for news if kimbutgar Aug 2022 #100
Ted Turner founded CNN and was very much left of center Buckeyeblue Aug 2022 #101
Are they putting words into his mouth? LiberalFighter Aug 2022 #102
Yep. It is a pure invention and too many have swallowed it w/o question. Just A Box Of Rain Aug 2022 #108
I don't know what happened to CNN EnergizedLib Aug 2022 #105
Stop the planet. I want to get off. lambchopp59 Aug 2022 #106
One more reason to dump cable. 15 years without it and counting Hassler Aug 2022 #107
PUKE lefthandedskyhook Aug 2022 #109
There goes the truth... dlk Aug 2022 #110
I guess Wolfie will be retiring soon Oppaloopa Aug 2022 #119
He's desperately trying to read the room Generic Brad Aug 2022 #120
Reading the room is not CNN's strong point. Earth-shine Aug 2022 #121
Remember when Lou Dobbs was on CNN? gldstwmn Aug 2022 #125
Maybe it's just me, but... Different Drummer Aug 2022 #126

badhair77

(5,181 posts)
2. AC and Jim Acosta are the only two I still watch.
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 09:41 AM
Aug 2022

I’ll catch Brian Stelter’s last show tomorrow but that’s about it. I can appreciate alternative views with substance but I don’t have the patience to be lied to.

Rebl2

(17,740 posts)
26. Don Lemon
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 10:41 AM
Aug 2022

not good anymore? I don’t watch cnn normally. AC and Acosta may quit if they are forced to repeat republicons lies.

Ligyron

(8,006 posts)
48. I haven't heard any lies coming out of Don Lemon's mouth.
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 11:46 AM
Aug 2022

I'll admit, I don't watch a lot of CNN.

Lonestarblue

(13,479 posts)
30. I heard on NPR that Stelter was let go because a wealthy Republican shareholder thought he
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 10:48 AM
Aug 2022

was too hard on Republicans and especially on Trump. I only watch the early morning show on CNN, but they are definitely now more favorable to Republicans and rarely challenge guests’ misstatements or lies.

House of Roberts

(6,525 posts)
40. Stelter could be the next Bill Moyers
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 11:20 AM
Aug 2022

if he could find the right platform.

Of course, wealthy Republicans never liked Bill Moyers either.

 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
8. I know
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 09:54 AM
Aug 2022

Now we’ll only have one liberal channel with msnbc, and two conservative channels with cnn and Fox News. At least they should maybe go for NPAs so they have a channel as well. Then everyone is covered. Two conservative channels is going to be repulsive.

 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
117. Even MSNBC has gone GQP - Morning Joe sets the program for the day and each and every
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 03:40 AM
Aug 2022

talking head for the rest of the day repeats his poutrage. I've dropped everything but Rachel and I'll sometimes watch Chris but even he is Cult45 all the time, along with the seditious January 6th riot. I was watching the shows for UA invasion updates, but like Zelenskyy said, he was worried that the media would lose interest and move on to something different and boy did they. BBC is the only network that *consistently* has updates from UA.

BBC World News is about the only news channel I'll watch anymore. When they interview anyone, sports to politician, they are not interrupted by commercials and the interviewer won't let them off the hook if they ask a question makes the interviewee squirm. I know it, too, is sanitized for our protection, but they sure beat anything the US is putting out there, even with the mergers with Sky News & NBC, along with other US & UK "news" organizations.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. According to this, still TOO "Lite"? Maybe we should expect
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 10:25 AM
Aug 2022

yet another transfer of personnel from Fox to CNN. Those there already not effective enough?

As for who replaces Anderson Cooper or ? -- Chris Wallace to begin with? After Wallace went from Fox to CNN+, he lost his new gig when that shut down, so now he's already officially at CNN proper but not in a position worthy of a Fox star like him.

Hannity of course isn't suitable for the Fox-Lite product, but some of the business anchors (who have to stay more attached to reality) seem like possibilities. Look for someone to claim Fox has gone too far for his or her journalistic integrity, or that Neil Cavuto had his hand up her skirt, whatever, then reappear at CNN.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
56. This is a shock
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 11:58 AM
Aug 2022

I knew that CNN was more moderate and sometimes came across as "Fox Lite", but this is just crazy. Cozying up to republicans at a time when that party is coming apart is really strange. I wonder how many good people they'll lose because of this.

I really don't care for CNN and haven't watched it in years, but a lot of people still do. This is really disturbing.

Irish_Dem

(81,261 posts)
62. The US oligarchs must double down now.
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 12:45 PM
Aug 2022

They bribe corrupt politicians to do their bidding.
That control is in jeopardy. So they are increasing the relentless propaganda.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
64. True but they are not dealing
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 01:06 PM
Aug 2022

with the old corporate friendly republican party. The republican party is now the crazy party and the objectives of the nutters wouldn't serve corporate America, unless you are a gun manufacturer.

For a long time I saw CNN as the wishy-washy network, always trying to have it both ways. Instead of trying to be a moderate version of Fox or MSNBC, why don't they just try reporting real news? That is how they started out.

Irish_Dem

(81,261 posts)
67. Even the crazy party gives the oligarchs what they want.
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 01:30 PM
Aug 2022

The oligarchs want to pay zero taxes.
They also want government subsidies and bail outs.
They do not want to fund government services or climate change prevention.
And they want cheap labor.

You can see exactly what the oligarchs want in how the GOP elected leaders vote.
It is the corporate wish list.

Irish_Dem

(81,261 posts)
80. The oligarchs have alway been there.
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 02:43 PM
Aug 2022

Now they don't even hide behind a veneer of respectability.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
82. Yes and I know that there will always be
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 03:04 PM
Aug 2022

greedy, corrupt people. That is why we have laws and institutions to ideally restrain them and keep them in line. If enough corrupt people infiltrate government, the house of cards can come tumbling down. They are always pushing against the door, trying to get a foothold here and there, then Trump comes along and opens the floodgates.

One bad administration can undo two hundred years of progress in a heartbeat.

Irish_Dem

(81,261 posts)
83. Every couple of generations we have to beat them down.
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 03:19 PM
Aug 2022

They re-group and then it is the next generation who has to fight them.
Seems to be the human condition, good vs evil.

Peregrine Took

(7,583 posts)
4. I don't understand why we can't have a network.
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 09:46 AM
Aug 2022

MSNBC is ok but there are too many republicans on it (ex or current.)
I want all Dems all the time.

Celerity

(54,407 posts)
16. There are a tonne of podcasts and steaming shows for this:
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 10:28 AM
Aug 2022
I want all Dems all the time.


Many here do not seem to have looked at the numbers.

Streaming internet shows, podcasts, and social media dwarf cable news.

Cable news is a tiny sliver of what is out there, and it has an ageing, older audience demographically. The median age for an MSNBC viewer is 68, maybe 69 now, so 43, 44 years older that me atm.

Their numbers with younger voters are horrific.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2021/05/24/msnbc-rashida-jones/

Cable news is not for the young.

In recent years, the median age of viewers who watch the big three cable news networks — CNN, Fox News Channel and MSNBC — has been in the 60s, an audience that television news industry analyst Andrew Tyndall calls positively “geriatric.” At MSNBC, the median age this year has been 68, four years older than CNN, according to the latest data from Nielsen. That’s up from a median age of 65 in 2017.

snip

BidenRocks

(3,266 posts)
99. Hey!
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 06:59 PM
Aug 2022

I resemble that! BTW, I'm a young 67.

I will delete CNN from my favorites and not miss it.

I miss Ted Turners vision.

Crowman2009

(3,524 posts)
103. Not to mention SiriusXM Progress!
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 08:27 PM
Aug 2022

They are my go to network for Democratic related news.

mopinko

(73,726 posts)
5. like it hasnt always been a worst case of bothsiderism for decades.
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 09:46 AM
Aug 2022

1 of my old profs started watching is all day when he retired. he got real dark. thought the world was on fire. that was over 10 yrs ago.

live love laugh

(16,383 posts)
111. I agree. CNN was never wholly journalistic. Cable and Prime Time are Republican owned. Period.
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 11:25 PM
Aug 2022

mopinko

(73,726 posts)
113. ya know, i was in a hotel room that only had cnn
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 11:51 PM
Aug 2022

for a week. no msnbc. in madison wis, it was below zero, and i had brought my dog up to get a new hip.
it was the week michael wolfe's 1st book came out. that's all they talked about.
i nearly went mad.

mopinko

(73,726 posts)
115. well it was worth it for one of the goodest boy to ever walk on 4 legs, so there's that.
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 12:01 AM
Aug 2022

and there was a snowy owl in the parking lot.
but yeah, dismal week.

FM123

(10,372 posts)
6. Exactly.
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 09:47 AM
Aug 2022

Long gone are the days when you could have serious debate with the other side, no more sane folks like Colin Powell are around- only the crazies like Sydney Powell.

IrishAfricanAmerican

(4,471 posts)
35. 👍🏼👍🏼
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 11:13 AM
Aug 2022

It really serves no purpose anymore. The only exception I can think of is when there is some kind of true emergency. Everything news related is available on the interwebs.


walkingman

(10,863 posts)
124. Thanks, how about TV news on my big screen? Like CNN or MSNBC - for example, I can listen to Fox
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 02:25 PM
Aug 2022

occasionally and it is easy to tell they are pure right-wing politics.

walkingman

(10,863 posts)
123. I am a bit skeptical of the internet because truthfully I can find pretty much anything
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 02:23 PM
Aug 2022

on the internet - some truthful, some not so truthful, and more than that I tend to lean towards what I believe or want to believe. As for DU, I am on it most everyday and it is usually made up of like minded people - but what I want from news and I mean TV news is truth and as non-partisan, whether I like it or not.

True Blue American

(18,579 posts)
96. I watch CSPAN a lot when they are in session.
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 05:05 PM
Aug 2022

Local news seems to be scared of those in office. They treat politicians very gently.

llmart

(17,615 posts)
49. I can't believe that people will actually pay for cable anyway.
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 11:48 AM
Aug 2022

I quit cable TV about 13 years ago and I don't miss it one iota.

Cha

(319,067 posts)
77. Not this person.. I Sopped All
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 02:34 PM
Aug 2022

M$$$$$M Noise in November 2002 & never looked back.

I know from reading DU that it's only Gotten worse.

& I get what's Worthy from shows like Rachel by those who do watch it.. TY!

 

SoFloDenny

(58 posts)
20. Yup. Their ratings are already third of the three cable news networks.
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 10:33 AM
Aug 2022

I don't see how they think this will help.

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
44. +1, it doesn't matter if MAGA filled the network the letters *CNN* will never be accepted by MAGA
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 11:38 AM
Aug 2022

Mr. Ected

(9,714 posts)
15. GOP will still attack it as part of the liberal media
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 10:27 AM
Aug 2022

This changes nothing, except that CNN will lose ratings share big time.

Liberals won't watch it, and neither will the magats.

Sympthsical

(10,969 posts)
122. Democrats watch Fox
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 10:09 AM
Aug 2022

Which I think is hilarious.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/02/02/democrats-fox-news-entertainment-conservative-liberal-00004843

I can tell just from reading here that a lot of cable news watching Democrats are glued to Fox more than they ever admit, giving the channel ratings and advertising dollars.

I imagine it's a Howard Stern effect (the people he pissed off listened to him the most).

But seeing the numbers of just how many Democrats are watching it will never not be funny to me.

My problem with cable news isn't their bias (I don't care). It's that they're boring and uninformative. What talking heads spend 30-60 minutes blabbing about is information I can glean in 5 minutes by reading a few articles. And those articles won't be filled with speculation and just plain wrong idiot pundit opinions.

It's just a massive waste of time. Even on sick days when I'm glued to bed or couch, I cannot fathom it.

 

Steve Canuck

(45 posts)
21. It has nothing to do with balance
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 10:33 AM
Aug 2022

It has EVERYTHING to do with profit. Media these days are entirely for profit, and the way to get that profit is to get as many eyeballs on their network as possible.

Elwood P Dowd

(11,453 posts)
23. It might be more appropriate to change that title to read....
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 10:37 AM
Aug 2022

"CNN's new CEO met with GOP lawmakers to promise CNN will become more fascist."

Meadowoak

(6,606 posts)
24. CNN has sucked ever since Ted Turner sold them. Good riddance
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 10:37 AM
Aug 2022

To bad rubbish. I won't watch them ever again. Maybe Anderson Cooper will go to MSNBC.

CatWoman

(80,288 posts)
25. if you missed Keith Olbermann yesterday, you should take a listen
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 10:40 AM
Aug 2022

Keith reveals a lot about Licht:

C BLOCK (28:48) Things I Promised Not To Tell: CNN cancels the only TV show that regularly criticized Fox News, and fires host Brian Stelter (30:23) The Daily Beast quotes a source who insists new CNN President Chris Licht "didn't want to do this" (33:11) I call BS because at MSNBC, Licht was Joe Scarborough's Henchman and after Scarborough attacked me on twitter in a violation of MSNBC policy that was supposed to resort in automatic suspension, Licht warned management that if they suspended Scarborough, Scarborough would go to right wing media and say he was being persecuted by me because he was a conservative. (37:48) In May 2010 Licht also helped Scarborough get Markos Moulitsas of Daily Kos suspended from MY show and ultimately banned from MSNBC because Scarborough didn't like something Moulitsas had tweeted (40:29) Licht demanding that Maddow, Matthews and I stop criticizing "Joe's friends" was a staple at MSNBC (41:25) and Licht was hired to run CNN to enable the new Trump-Friendly owners to move out the liberals like Stelter.

https://link.chtbl.com/countdownwithkeitholbermann

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
60. Good on you for posting KOs podcast ..he was so clear about the people NOW at CNN..the history
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 12:29 PM
Aug 2022

The telling of the story..Scar, etc..and Marcos M...omg....too bad for those now at CNN...if CNN goes hard right (it is subtle at the moment) I just don't see them retaining top hosts....

Your comment should be an OP...current event...podcasts are catching on...

To add...this podcast is EP 15...but they are all good.. .

ashredux

(2,928 posts)
27. Pardon me, but how about just giving us the actual news
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 10:42 AM
Aug 2022

Pardon me, but how about just giving us the actual news

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
98. On any podcast you can skip ahead beyond ads...just sayin...KO delivers...just the facts..
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 06:51 PM
Aug 2022

None of the man by pamby BS

mcar

(46,056 posts)
33. Stupid strategy
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 10:59 AM
Aug 2022

They are losing viewers, myself included, in droves. Fox viewers are not going to tune in.

They had an opportunity to go back to actual reporting and investigating and telling the truth about political things like they did during the IMPOTUSII years. Instead, they went back to slamming Democrats and, except for Trump, treating Republicans like they are perfectly normal.

wryter2000

(47,940 posts)
37. This is how we got to the miserable state of journalism today
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 11:15 AM
Aug 2022

I wonder how many of the staff will leave.

samsingh

(18,426 posts)
41. i watch msnbc but try to watch cnn to keep their ratings up. No more.
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 11:23 AM
Aug 2022

the moron doesn't understand that republicans will never watch cnn. they watch fox for their fix of lies.

cnn did this during w bush and supported the illegal iraq war and then again in 2016 equating Hillary's email to trump's crimes and pretending that his treason was the same as her over caution (which every other secretary of state did)

f cnn.

Uncle Joe

(65,134 posts)
42. The corporate media is
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 11:34 AM
Aug 2022

the CORPORATE media, and ultimately despite short diversions from that prime directive when they actually become alarmed at the monster (s) they create, they will always return to a narrow, top down focus to life and its' many challenges.

It's the only way they know, authoritarian as in corporate or oligarch rule.

I believe the ultimate question in the back of corporate medias' mind is how will this affect their primary commercial buying patrons and corporate owners, the less than 1%?

Their current business model will always direct them back to that star as their guiding principle on the rare occasions when they stray or seem to stray.

Thanks for the thread babylonsister.

DonCoquixote

(13,960 posts)
43. "we want to win back your trust"
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 11:35 AM
Aug 2022

One: you just lost ours
Two: as Fox news has shown, you can be to the right of hitler and STILL get the ire of the trumpkins

Dave says

(5,425 posts)
46. I'll never watch CNN again
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 11:41 AM
Aug 2022

They want to become more Fox-like. Count me out.



(Truth be known, I never watch CNN and only occasionally watch MSNBC - not much TV watching in my house.)

tiredtoo

(2,949 posts)
47. All of networks are owned by American Oligarchs
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 11:45 AM
Aug 2022

And do lean to the right. Even MSNBC, with their army of republican talking heads.

Liberty Belle

(9,707 posts)
50. Start a petition: Ask CNN's bd. of directors to fire this CEO!
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 11:49 AM
Aug 2022

He is a threat to our democracy.

I can't start one due to my work in nonprofit news but someone sure should.

CNN's action is a threat to our democracy. Journalists are obligated to report truth, not propaganda.

The answer CNN should have given to the GOP Congressional members is the same once I once gave a politician (state legislator) who got in trouble for illegal campaign contributions. He called me to vent and complain about why he was only getting negative news coverage and how to get positive coverage. I told him, "Do something good. I know people aren't one dimensional. You made a mistake. Learn from it, and do something positive."

I didn't think he would, but he actually did take the words to heart. He introduced a couple of decent bills to protect internet privacy, and when he got elected to a more local office, he began to do some things to help people -- leading efforts to fund shelters for the homeless, and he is a Republican, but nothing like the rats in Congress.

The GOP members should be told when they behave like spineless cowards making excuses for treasonous actions they can expect negative coverage. When all of their votes hurt people instead of helping them, that's now how to get positive coverage.

If they show political courage and basic human decency, they will get positive coverage. If they spread lies about a stolen election, whip up mobs to violence, and vote against everything good or decent, they can expect appropriately accurate coverage.

While they should be able to share their views on matters of opinion (say, someone thinks a bill is more costly than we can afford, or didn't do enough to help their state) that's fine to cover in a spirit of fairness. But not lies and unAmerican actions.

CNN needs a CEO willing to stand up and say such things.

gulliver

(13,985 posts)
51. They should bring back Crossfire
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 11:51 AM
Aug 2022

My guess is Tucker Carlson wouldn't dare try to face Paul Begala now.

Jimvanhise

(594 posts)
58. THE NEW CNN
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 12:05 PM
Aug 2022

Keith Olberman talked about this at length on his August 19th podcast. CNN has been acquired by a billionaire Trump supporter and Licht is a right wing hack who formerly worked at MSNBC trying to get liberals fired (and sometimes succeeded). CNN is in the process of being turned into a toothless giant and the first fatality is Reliable Sources because it called out right wing lies on Fox News, ONN, etc.

Hotler

(13,747 posts)
59. Let the boycott of their advertisers begin. This is where the power of the wallet & pocketbook,
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 12:14 PM
Aug 2022

the consumer dollar can make an impact.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,782 posts)
61. Time to unsubscribe from their YouTube channel.
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 12:31 PM
Aug 2022

I don't watch TV and don't subscribe to cable, so I get my news from internet sites such as Guardian/UK, BBC and a number of YouTube channels.

For quite a long time, MSNBC has been the only consistent YouTube channel that posts titles to their videos which call our Republican lies and bullshit. The Guardian does so as well but not as often. I also love Guardian's Opinion/Editorial page and cartoon page.

Looks like CNN wants to be the one that replaces Faux Snooze. This is just another case of money we spend for goods and services being used to stab us in the back.....

Thanks for the post, babylonsister!......

KY

WorkDoctor

(80 posts)
70. Tapper & Acosta could be next
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 01:54 PM
Aug 2022

Licht wants the term "big lie" expunged from CNN. That is the sellout. Will timid MSNBC offer the alternative and hire these guys? Probably not. Watch what Chris Wallace does.

pwb

(12,661 posts)
76. The Wealth class Republican owned media exposed.
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 02:26 PM
Aug 2022

We demand news? How does that work? Do they make up good things they did?
Maybe do some good things to get good coverage pukes.
We know you do tax cuts and hate women but what else you got? Nothing....

andym

(6,066 posts)
81. News should not have a poltical slant period.
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 03:02 PM
Aug 2022

Opinion pieces should be limited because people seem to have trouble discerning facts from opinions.

ificandream

(11,837 posts)
86. Keith Olbermann was talking about this on his Friday podcast.
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 03:43 PM
Aug 2022

It's here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-15-countdown-with-keith-olbermann-8-19-22/id1633301179?i=1000576571214

He warned listeners that Licht was going to fuck up CNN. And he already has by firing Brian Stelter, whose final Reliable Sources show is Sunday. It's fucking ridiculous that they're getting rid of that show. I just hope Stelter does a follow-up to his "Hoax" book and finds another place to go.

Takket

(23,715 posts)
88. if rethugs hate you, i means you are doing your job correct
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 03:50 PM
Aug 2022

CNN is going to destroy what little reputation they have left if they cater to rethugs. they will only drive away the pathetic audience they have left because no MAGAt is EVER switching from Fox or newsmax or OAN to watch CNN.

IcyPeas

(25,475 posts)
89. Look at this chart..... fox has double the viewer$
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 03:57 PM
Aug 2022

The Fox rating$ are the envy of CNN. Maybe they should bring back Rick Santorum and Jeffrey Lord?

These fox news viewers get up in the morning and put the TV on fox news and leave it there all day. Hence the brainwahing.




https://www.statista.com/statistics/373814/cable-news-network-viewership-usa/

RANDYWILDMAN

(3,163 posts)
90. Corporations love repubs and visa vera
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 03:57 PM
Aug 2022


Tells you everything you need to know about corporate media.

Bothersiderism is help keep republicans in the race !!!!! Our country is way more liberal then any corporation ever wants to admit

orangecrush

(30,256 posts)
91. When anchors start resigning
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 04:04 PM
Aug 2022


And going public with their reasons, most of the public will see through the farce.

budkin

(6,849 posts)
93. Listen to Keith Olbermann's new Countdown podcast... he's got some stories about Licht
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 04:11 PM
Aug 2022

And they aren't good.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
95. This content is not subject to review by Daily Kos staff prior to publication
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 04:56 PM
Aug 2022
This content is not subject to review by Daily Kos staff prior to publication

Yet the unreviewed (and frankly bullshit) story is swallowed whole cloth by so many.

"SAD" is right.

kimbutgar

(27,248 posts)
100. I've never been a fan of CNN and it's now another reason for me to not turn on for news if
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 08:07 PM
Aug 2022

It’s going to be Fox/repuke talking points.

Major disappointed in Chris Licht thought since he produced Stephen Corbett thought he’d push CNN to a more liberal stance and not another right wing cable news network 2.0

Buckeyeblue

(6,352 posts)
101. Ted Turner founded CNN and was very much left of center
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 08:16 PM
Aug 2022

But I don't think he ever pushed his own ideology on CNN. They've always seemed to be right down the middle. Although I'm not sure what right down the middle is now that Republicans have gone full blown facism.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
108. Yep. It is a pure invention and too many have swallowed it w/o question.
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 09:31 PM
Aug 2022

What's happened to healthy skepticism?

EnergizedLib

(3,037 posts)
105. I don't know what happened to CNN
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 09:07 PM
Aug 2022

I used to love coming home from high school and watching Wolf on the Situation Room, then I’d switch over to Hardball and Countdown.

Now, it’s seemingly changed, and not for the better.

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
106. Stop the planet. I want to get off.
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 09:27 PM
Aug 2022

Goddammit, the moment I hear fake excuses for the "job creators" to be handed subsidies... especially when googling up the same bastards a year later to discover how many damn layoffs because they didn't meet their profit goals, while multi-million dollar bonuses go to the CEO's that pulled the wool over everyone?
We're heading straight for the corruption and street masses depicted in "Robo-Cop".
I've been so strongly anti-capitalist all my life, never lived in clean walled homes as seen on teevee, even at an above average income. This is so quickly shifted into a third world oligarchy "shithole country" in my view, been heading there at the speed of sound since RayGun, and the only way US citizens has a decent home is to inherit.
Call me trailer trash if you like.
Funny thing about even an above-average wage earner, goddammit I worked hard for my keep, still slaved to pay debts, rent, medical expenses without the means or years left at this point to ever reside in an "average american" abode. My ass scraped and scrimped, slept in my car and other places I wasn't "supposed" to be to get through college. My classmates never got a clue that I was often homeless.
Fox Noise and the like has always pissed me off so badly, bashing and blaming those who inherited not.
Fuck this future. The cancer will remove me from this life soon enough and hope I can outlive my dog. 2/3rds of products advertised on the boob tube aren't even given the slightest consideration for my life. Sure.... where to put it?
Every dad gummed thing the f'n republicans support I'm so completely anti, the airwaves out of the urban areas filled with RW hate and prosperity gospel shit twice as bad.
And now CNN. Stop the planet, I want off.

 

Earth-shine

(4,044 posts)
121. Reading the room is not CNN's strong point.
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 08:52 AM
Aug 2022

The abject absolute failure of CNN+ was just a few short months ago.

They invested $300 million in programming no one asked for.

CNN said it was all going great until they abruptly shut it down after a few weeks due to lack of subscribership.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
125. Remember when Lou Dobbs was on CNN?
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 03:16 PM
Aug 2022

This isn't the first time for them. It never seems to work. Something tells me Licht's tenure won't be too long. Maybe get a new idea CNN?

Different Drummer

(9,083 posts)
126. Maybe it's just me, but...
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 06:38 PM
Aug 2022

doesn't it stand to reason that if people wanted to watch Fox News, they would just watch Fox News?

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