What else is Trump hiding?

[kentuck]

With most folks, people think the best of them.

With the former president, it is probably wise to think the worst?

We know he will lie with every breath. He is not a very moral person.

Did he turn over all the documents that were at Mar-a-Lago? No doubt, the FBI made a thorough search, but they should not assume that they received everything from Trump. Perhaps he hid them at another location? Or perhaps he bartered some of them already?

We suppose that the NARA and the White House kept track, in some manner, with the classified documents? They should know if they have all been retrieved.

We know from experience, Trump is always hiding something.

[SheilaAnn]

1. I still think Ivana's casket should be checked. n/t

[malaise]

3. All his properties

should be checked

[Paper Roses]

8. How about using the ground X-rays. Don't know what it is called:

OK, there would need to be another warrant to inspect. The ground X-rays should show if there is anything in that coffin other than a small container with ashes. Anything else would be suspect. If the coffin is lead lined, it would probably not work but then, why would the coffin be lead lined?

Never happen but I doubt anything this former pResident does. What better place to hide suspect information or documents?

[SheilaAnn]

10. Total agreement. n/t

[TNNurse]

17. Well, they said it took 10 men to carry it, it might be lead linded.

I have watched too much TV and movies.

[slightlv]

26. I dunno about that...

I'm in agreement with you. Lead-lined to protect the documents would be one reason it took so many to carry the casket, to be sure. And you're certainly not the first I've "heard" talk in this way! And I've said it more than once, myself. I think it's worth looking into, as are all his properties. After all, don't all resorts have safes?

[no_hypocrisy]

2. Reminds me of "Paper Moon" (1973)

Moses Pray: I've got scruples too, ya know. You know what that is... scruples?

Addie Loggins: No, I don't know what it is but if you've got 'em, it's a sure bet they belong to somebody else!

[GoCubsGo]

4. I have no doubt he's sitting on loads of kompromat.

It would certainly explain why so many in his party are still defending him. Looking at you Lindsey Graham, Matt Gaetz, Ted Cruz, Sporkfoot Margie, Bobo, Paul Gosar, Andy Biggs, Little Marco, Ron Johnson, Randy Paul...

[SheltieLover]

15. Hoping that was in the safe & now in FBI hands

[Irish_Dem]

27. Yes I think so too. Lots of embarrassing stuff about elected officials.

He can use to make others do his bidding.

And he would also love to brag that he knows everything, about who is sleeping with who and what kinky stuff is going on.

[Effete Snob]

5. His charm, intelligence and wit

So well hidden that nobody’s ever found a sign of them anywhere.

[dalton99a]

6. Trump's success as a criminal and a thug comes from his being secretive where it counts.

[2naSalit]

7. His dad's crimes...

And something important about Epstein's enterprise and demise which leads to a global network of bad people and the bad things they do while seeking world domination.



It's seven decades of criminal activity to the max so he has much to hide.

[Wounded Bear]

9. trump's greatest fear is of being exposed...

for the empty shell of a person he really is.

[KS Toronado]

11. He's hiding the fact he's a Russian spy!

[Richard D]

12. I hate to say it . . .

. . . but was Ivana's funeral closed casket?

[ShazzieB]

23. Presumably closed.

Open casket funerals are done so that people can view the body. She was cremated, so there would have been nothing to "view" except an urn full if ashes.

[mgardener]

13. The Saudi's were at a golf tournament at Bedminster a few weeks ago

I would have checked there first.

[Paper Roses]

25. The Saudi's could have gone home with anything. Diplomatic package.

No inspection. Stuffed full goodies for future use.

[Hotler]

14. Other items he and his family stole out of the White House.

Did the staff do an inventory of all the art work, antiques, gold & silver dinner ware, every roll of TP, rare booze and wine, etc., add it all up it could be a be crime, easier for the DOJ

[Irish_Dem]

28. Yes I assume the Trumps wiped out the WH, took everything not nailed down.

He will probably get a pass on that stuff.

[SheltieLover]

16. Helsinki translator notes!

[Justice matters.]

18. ALSO, the question is, how many TS documents he did share with putin...

while he was squatting in the WH for 4 long years?

We know he shared the Israeli TS documents with Lavrov.

Is there'no way to know how many OTHER docs he shared (and got paid in return)?

[PatSeg]

21. Knowing Trump, it is not only possible,

but also probable. It is who he is.

Remember how he kept taking documents to the residence to read or study them? Yeah right. Even if he was interested, he doesn't have the necessary attention span. So was he calling people on his personal phone to explain to them what he thought he had and receive some kind of confirmation of what to keep?

[Irish_Dem]

29. He could have done both. Steal everything marked classified, but also steal to order.

Manafort and Flynn would find out what our enemies wanted and the price willing to be paid.

Jared handled the money negotiation, to squeeze out top dollar.

Trump wants embarrassing information, things he could use to extort or leverage his position.
Or brag about what he knows.

Kushner handles the big money items.

[PatSeg]

32. I think there was a whole of lot crap

going on that most people haven't even begun to imagine. If nothing else when it comes to corrupt activities, Trump is truly prolific, a master of sorts you might say.

[Irish_Dem]

34. If he had been smarter and less crazy he could have gotten away with it.

Yes we certainly know that there are many more crimes he committed.
We are just seeing some of it.

If he had been smarter, not so greedy, ego driven, and reckless, he could have gotten away with most of it.

Presidents who make mistakes, even big ones, are carefully protected typically.

[PatSeg]

36. Yes, it is absolute terrifying to imagine

what a smarter, more patient Donald Trump could have done. It still blows my mind though, that such an undisciplined, emotionally erratic person could have gotten so far in life. There should have been all kinds of red flags before he became president.

[Irish_Dem]

38. The only explanation is that Trump is probably more cunning than he appears.

He has street smarts and a kind of charm that some find irresistible, and a way of manipulating others to do his dirty work for him.
And he is a master at evading the law.

Many smart, educated people have fallen under his spell, either by manipulation or mesmerized by Trump's promises.
And he taps into their inner criminal.

Trump is also very careful not to get his hands dirty, others take the fall for him.

But yes, he is greatly flawed. Huge narcissist, emotionally arrested development, rumored to use drugs.
Not a great intellect, poorly educated, undisciplined, erratic, immature, greedy, craves attention, not focused, not strategic, etc etc.

If he had been less crazy, smarter, better educated with knowledge of American history, government, also patient, learned the ropes,
he could have had it all.

He could have learned how the levers of power in DC and the world work. Could have neutralized his opponents or brought them onboard, like McConnell, Cheney. Would have done a better job in 2020 stealing the election. Pretended to be a statesman and leader.
Selected someone like DeSantis to be his VP. His legacy would be sealed as one of the great GOP power players of all time.
Retire, sign lucrative contracts with Netflix, etc. Have a foundation he could milk. Bask in glory.

During 8 years in office he could have sold some highly sought after pieces of classified intel for excellent prices. But being very clever and careful about it. DC has been covering up presidential crimes for a long time.

Yep he could have had it all, and gotten away with it.

Probably why the big GOP oligarchs and power players hate Trump. He didn't cover up his crimes very well and didn't have a veneer of respectability they have.

[PatSeg]

40. That's a mouthful

And sums him up perfectly.

I agree that one of Trump's big advantages is his "street smarts" and I think he learned a lot of that from Roy Cohn. He's been doing it so long, he can do it in his sleep. Still his temper and childish antics always seem to get in his way. What is really sad is that no matter how successful he is, he'll never be happy. He is miserable to his core. If he wasn't so dangerous to the rest of us, I might feel sorry for him.........maybe.

[Irish_Dem]

42. Yes he is a street fighter, taught by Roy Cohn.

Yes I think he would be better served to be calmer and more strategic, but then again he has gotten very far with his antics and seems above the law.

The envy of criminals the world over I would think.

Oh yes he is not happy and never will be. Nothing will ever be enough to fill the hole in his soul.

Yes it is sad in some ways, but also yes it is hard to feel sorry for a man who thinks nothing of destroying the country for his personal gain.

[PatSeg]

45. So many times

he would proudly proclaim that when he did things "his way" and didn't listen to experts and consultants, he was successful. His political successes just gave him more misplaced confidence to turn a deaf ear to anything and everything that other people said. He wasn't willing to listen to anyone outside the voices in his head, except when they were singing his praises.

[Irish_Dem]

47. Well he did become successful doing it his way.

He has made an ungodly amount of money swindling the US people.
And selling US classified documents.

Gone on a crime spree with most likely few consequences.

The most we can probably hope for is a house detention, even that is doubtful.

Trump has been so outrageous, so blatant, so egregious that no one knows how to handle him.

[PatSeg]

50. Yes, from his warped perspective,

he is successful.

You're right, his ridiculously outrageous behavior isn't something most people in government are used to and they don't know how to handle a person like that when he has so much power.

I don't think he will pay nearly enough for all that he has done, but at least I hope he is ruined and disgraced for life.

[Irish_Dem]

52. Oh yes I am sure he gloats about how brilliant he is and how stupid we are.

And how stupid other presidents were for not cashing in.

Being in the WH was like a kid in a candy shop for Trump.
I am sure he grabbed as much as he could.

I am not sure he will be ruined or disgraced.
There will always be a fan base for him.
And he has made ungodly amounts of money stashed away now.

His ego does not process shame. He will always blame others for his problems.

That said, the only thing that might happen is that his refusal to shut up and stop his crap might
irritate the GOP. In fact I believe it has. Trump is not good for their brand anymore.

If Trump would just fade into the background, I think he would be fine and no one would touch him.

Even Putin might find him problematic.

[lefthandedskyhook]

19. No duh

just saying

[PatSeg]

20. With Trump, I always assume there will be more

As for the documents at Mar-a-Lago, when I heard that people were seen going into that storage room and taking stuff out, I figured there was a chance that some documents were removed and perhaps taken to a different location. I wouldn't be surprised if there were more.

[Irish_Dem]

30. Once the docs were placed in the moving van, anyone could get them.

[PatSeg]

33. People in the CIA and FBI

must be losing their minds.

[Irish_Dem]

35. They are culpable if they didn't know a POTUS was stealing and selling top secrets to our enemies.

And if they didn't know Trump had moved many boxes of classified, sensitive docs to an unsecured moving van and then to an unlocked room in MAL basement.

How in the heck does the CIA/FBI/Military Intelligence not know any of this?

[PatSeg]

37. Yes, that is truly disturbing

I'm sure there were people who suspected what he was doing, but when it is the president, I think they have to be more cautious before making accusations or starting investigations. When you go after a president or former president, you'd better have all your ducks in a row - failure is not an option if the FBI and CIA want to survive.

[Irish_Dem]

39. Yes that is one explanation for sure.

They didn't know what to do about Trump.

There absolutely had to be people in the CIA/FBI/Military Intelligence who knew what Trump was doing.
It had to go beyond suspicion, to fact.

But they were stymied as this was a sitting president of the US.

Trump is sloppy, full of hubris, runs his mouth, cannot keep a secret, and is blatant in his criminality.
His criminal assistants, people like Kushner, Flynn, Manafort are all well known to be quite dodgy and indiscreet.

No way any of this could be kept secret.

The other explanation is that some of the agencies were doing what they could to check Trump's worst activities.
The best they could. We will never hear about it probably.

[PatSeg]

41. Yes, I think that is right

And because this was all so unprecedented, no one knew how to respond other than try to keep him in check wherever they could. I'm sure there are some really scary stories, most of which we'll probably never hear.

[Irish_Dem]

43. Some of it will be kept classified for a long time.

Some of the stories may leak out.

Yes we know there are scary stories.

[PatSeg]

44. Yes, at least we know there will be some leaks

There is only so much that government agencies are going to be willing to publicly release.

[Irish_Dem]

46. Phillip Rucker just leaked some info in The Washington Post.

Rucker is the White House Bureau Chief, very well connected to Wash DC politicians.
People will for sure talk to him off the record.

He talked about "hypothetical" situations involving Trump and the Saudis.

I think it is pretty close to the mark.

The Saudis want nuclear capability and Trump sold them top secret plans regarding US nuclear plans, blueprints, etc.
In exchange the Saudis paid off all of Trump's Deutsche Bank loans.

[PatSeg]

48. God, what a terrifying thought

but it certainly sounds feasible being what we know about Trump.

I really like Phillip Rucker. He definitely is well connected.

[Irish_Dem]

49. Yes it is all terrifying.

The thing about Trump: If you imagine the worst thing he could do, he always does worse.

[PatSeg]

51. I can't count how many times I've said that

He is a force of nature, a negative force. There are builders/creators and there are destroyers. Trump is the latter to the extreme.

As Rick Wilson said, "Everything Trump touches dies" and I think he gets some perverse satisfaction from that.

[Irish_Dem]

53. Oh yes, Trump loves his power to control, harm, destroy. He gets off on it.

[Generic Brad]

22. 45 pounds under his overworked girdle

And a huge bald spot underneath that ridiculous comb over.

[The Bopper]

24. Best guess

I’d think it’s his property in Dubai and it doesn’t appear there is an extradition treaty with them either. Jared spent a lot of time in the area before Jan. 6th.

[Irish_Dem]

31. He doesn't trust anyone so he would have kept it all close to him I think.

But yes he should have moved them out of the country to a more secure location.