RUSSIAN GROUP CLAIMS RESPONSIBILITY FOR DARYA DUGIN'S KILLING

[orangecrush]

Holy shit

Link to tweet

?t=kAvo1lJrBnTqxQUTcO9i4w&s=19


Putin has to be shitting his pants.

[dalton99a]

1. Excellent.

[orangecrush]

2. Russians have had enough

Of the strutting little ass

[PortTack]

4. Hope so...hope pootie is next

[orangecrush]

20. That's who

I meant.

[DFW]

13. Some certainly have, anyway

Russian Nobel Peace Prize winner Muranov recently put up his gold Nobel medal for auction. He said in advance that 100% of the proceeds would go to UNICEF for the specific purpose of helping Ukrainian children in dire circumstances. He found an American auction company to hold the auction for free, even though an auction company lives by retaining a percentage of what they sell. Seeing as how the high bid was $103,500,000 and the auction company normally gets a minimum of a 20% buyer‘s fee, they gave up a healthy chunk of change here. The winning bid seems like an odd number until one hears that the bid came from Switzerland. $103,500,000 was exactly 100,000,000 Swiss Francs on the day of the auction. To make sure everything was completely transparent, the auction company had the winning bidder wire the money not to them, but straight to UNICEF, so that it was clear that UNICEF was the sole recipient.

The money was there within 48 hours, though the buyer wished to remain anonymous. I can well imagine why. I’m sure that there is more than one really rich anti-Putin Russian living in Switzerland—someone who wanted to help out, but would prefer not to have Putin’s gunmen at his bedside at 3 AM some day the following week.

[orangecrush]

21. Thanks, DFW

That is inspiring!

[DFW]

49. The auction firm that held the sale is from Dallas

The two co-CEOs are friends of mine. When they offered to do the sale for free, they thought they were giving up $1 million, not $20 million, but they just shrugged their shoulders and said, “good for the kids.”

Muranov was at the auction in person, and was as amazed as everyone else, actually went up to the podium and hugged the auctioneer. Putin would probably had bombs planted in the room if he had the slightest idea what was going to happen.

[TheBlackAdder]

37. Putin's Rasputin must be shitting his bricks, because Russians eventually got the real Rasputin.

[Samrob]

51. Just maybe, the nightmare in Ukraine will be over soon as the one here. Can you even imagine

a world without Putin and Trump in power? I wish something would happen to shake the very ground upon which these global autocrats stand. Maybe this incident was it. They need to be fearful instead of causing fear.

[Samrob]

53. Waiting for Trump to blame ANTIFA. nt

[rockfordfile]

3. Russian pos Konstantin Malofeev proposes naming a Darya Dugina street in Kyiv

Russian pos Konstantin Malofeev proposes naming a Darya Dugina street in Kyiv once it is occupied by Russia.

[Stinky The Clown]

5. If I were a Ukranian waging asymmetrical war on Putin, blaming Russians is what I would do.

[applegrove]

7. The Ukrainians are not terrorists.

[Gaugamela]

11. This is war, not the Boy Scouts. You do whatever works.

[applegrove]

17. No you don't. You keep your humanity where civilians are concerned.

[Gaugamela]

57. Assuming the target was Alexander Dugin

(Why would you go for the daughter instead of the father who is described as the spiritual guide behind Putin's war), I don't see how the strike would be any different than the US strike that took out AL Zawahiri. I do agree that it's unlikely that Ukraine would put resources into this operation at this time. Usually you concentrate on winning the war first, and settle scores after.

[applegrove]

58. I don't think Ukraine would do that. That doesn't help them in any way.

[brush]

9. My bet is on Russians tired of Putin, the war and Dugin who was in...

Putin's ear to start it. Dugin preaches a Russian empire from Belfast to Vladivostok...from the Atlantic to the Pacific and all countries in Russia's way, including Ukraine.

He is where Bannon gets the crazed ideas he puts in trump's ear.

[BootinUp]

19. What asymmetrical war?

[orangecrush]

22. Elements

Of Russian opposition.

Not Ukrainians.

They had to have inside help to get that close

Sending Putin a message.

[Irish_Dem]

42. Oh yes, a very in your face kind of message to Putin.

One he cannot ignore.

[Irish_Dem]

40. I don't see Ukrainian fingerprints on the actual bombing.

I don't see them wasting resources on this operation and most importantly they are smart about optics.

Zelensky is a genius at rallying world support, without it he is a dead man walking and he knows it.
Murdering pretty blond young Russian women is not a good look.

That said I would guess that Ukrainian covert agents are stirring up shit in Russia.
And could have helped things along.

And I would also guess they have some help from the western democracies along these lines.

We have assets in Russian, why not use them to help us in the war effort?

That is unless Trump has not had them all killed.

[Celerity]

6. More please. Bring the chaos and death right into the core of Putin Inc

[orangecrush]

23. This

[Beetwasher.]

8. Shit just Got Real Real in Russia

[orangecrush]

24. Really real.

[Irish_Dem]

41. Yes it could not have been a more clear message to Putin.

[uponit7771]

50. +1,

[Tetrachloride]

10. Did people leave their barn door open? Where's the doubt and cynicism?

No sign of verification

Tony Stark and Barndoor Protocol https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxGUbcTwCiYXdWy7fQz6nils8mBg_W1zM6

[orangecrush]

25. She dead

Can't close the door no more.

She should have boughtca Russian car.

It wouldn't have started!

Va- dump!

[Tetrachloride]

12. I call bullshit for now. Kyiv Independent website has zero information

https://kyivindependent.com/

I am calling bullshit for now. That is, doubt before gullibility.

Why nothing on the webpage?

Twitter account hacked ?

Around 7 a.m. now in Ukraine.

The headline should be “Alleged Russian group claims responsibility.”

The source is allegedly Ilya Ponomaryov : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilya_Ponomarev

[orangecrush]

28. Also

Thanks for the Wiki link about IIlya.

Very informative.

[Tetrachloride]

29. this is a case of learning together

the amount of war information has dropped off from my distant view.

[Tetrachloride]

14. President Zelenskyy denies Ukraine involvement, but the news source is Kyiv-based.

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Something doesn’t compute. Either President Zelenskyy was in the dark or he wasn’t.

Was the twitter account hacked?

How did those photos appear??????

Where is the evidence beyond a Tweet?

Why wasn’t a military target found?

Why did the wrong person die ?

Was security around the target car so lapse ?

How was the bomb exploded ? Remote control or a clock or a mechanical trigger or ….. ?

What time?

What exact location?

What strategic benefit does this bring to Ukraine’s strategy?

[orangecrush]

26. Iilya?

But seriously, your point is valid.

I hope more info is forthcoming, but in Muskova, I wouldn't hold my breath.

[Tetrachloride]

27. I now see new posts in another thread.

so the same guy reiterated.

Nevertheless, most of the questions remain.

[orangecrush]

30. More will be revealed

Hopefully.

[Tetrachloride]

15. A good thread from yesterday

https://www.democraticunderground.com/113333827

Three things to remember:

1. The FSB faked an assassination-attempt on russian media-personality and pro-war propagandist Vladimir Solovyov.
https://tass.com/society/1442735
https://www.thedailybeast.com/russian-fsb-spies-hilariously-screw-up-vladimir-putins-assassination-plot-claim
The FSB supposedly busted a group of six ukrainian spies in a Moscow flat, who had planned to kill Solovyov via car-bomb. According to the FSB's initial reports, which were later redacted, these ukrainians spies had drugs, swastika-T-shirts, a photo of Adolph Hitler and 3 SIMS-video-games in their room.
It has been speculated that an FSB-agent was supposed to plant 3 Sim-Cards as evidence, but fucked up the assignment.



2. The russian government went to the trouble of trying to assassinate a humble anti-corruption activist, Alexei Navalny, and they went to the trouble of covering up the murder of Sergej Magnitsky who had accidently stumbled upon a cabal of corrupt russian judges and government-agents.



3. A dead Aleksandr Dugin is more valuable to Russia than to Ukraine.
To Ukraine, Dugin is just one dozens of russian propagandists. Killing him would change nothing.
To Russia, he is a martyr.

Without more info, the tweet is clickbait at best.

[orangecrush]

32. Well, if they were trying to fake an assassination attempt

I'd say someone seriously fucked up.

[Irish_Dem]

44. Yes it was a very sloppy job.

The only thing that makes me think it could be FSB.

[orangecrush]

47. Valid point

I don't believe it was Ukraine.

[Irish_Dem]

48. I agree, this was not an operation Ukraine would have performed.

I posted something upthread about why I didn't think Ukraine did this.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

54. Or, the FSB didn't want him dead, just his pretty daughter,

who is just as looney as he is, but he's still useful.

I find it highly suspicious that he, at the last minute, decided to ride in another car, this smells of an FSB op., what better way to shore up support for the war in Ukraine than to have video of a prominent Russian figure grieving for his slain daughter while blaming Ukraine.

[orangecrush]

55. I think you're onto something there

"Oh, what a tangled web we weave,

When first we practice to decieve"

[orangecrush]

36. Dugin is more

Than a propagandist.

I read the excerpt from "Geopolitics" on Wiki, and realized his strategy for America was successfully carried out by Trump.

He is a legitimate target.

[Tetrachloride]

39. Assassinations have been rare. Putin appears to be

the biggest reason for current numbers.

This may be a case of reap what you sow. (there are puns in there, i know it)

[orangecrush]

46. I get it!

[live love laugh]

16. BS propaganda. I don't believe Republicans or Russians.

[orangecrush]

33. The article

Is from Ukrainian media.

[Takket]

18. Whoever they I hope they keep it up

Maybe someday the Russian people will realize Putin is the one destroying their lives.

[orangecrush]

34. Likewise.

[48656c6c6f20]

31. I did have Russian Civil War on my bingo card

So I'm covered.

[orangecrush]

35. DUzy!

[peggysue2]

38. This would be the optimal answer

A Russian faction that is fed up with Putin's lawlessness and inhumane invasion of Ukraine. I've read of a growing discontent within the Russian population particularly among families who have lost their sons, husbands, etc. to this ill-conceived war.

If the Russian people start fighting back, Putin is done.

[orangecrush]

43. FSB is claiming

It was Ukraine.

They really are throwing up a smokescreen.

[Irish_Dem]

45. Probably what the FSB is telling Putin too.

The FSB has been screwing up royally and needs to shift blame.

[uponit7771]

52. How is that better? If Ukes can get into Russia and start blowing up HV family members then Putrid

... is proper f**ked ~

[orangecrush]

56. Spot on.