Jacobus: Trump was likely moving hard copy and electronic to NJ, NY, FL before he left WH

[FelineOverlord]

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[FelineOverlord]

1. Jacobus

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[agingdem]

3. this wasn't a random document grab

by low level aides..the documents were parsed.... and moving out of the White House is not like college kids swapping apartments..

[Eyeball_Kid]

5. I'd call this a no-brainer.

Anyone in LE remotely acquainted with Donnie's behavior patterns would logically surveil all of Donnie's movements for criminal activity. He's a consummate criminal who shouldn't be trusted with the keys to the bathroom. Always assume the worst. He's already digitized everything that can be photographed, scanned, and copied-- everything that can bring in money and influence. THERE IS NO BOTTOM.

[calimary]

31. Because we already know he's a sneaky shit

who believes none of our laws or regulations apply to him.

When he’d first taken the White House, there was a video clip of him rather full of himself and still flushed with recent victory, telling some people “I’m the President! I can do whatever I want!”

I’ve never forgotten that. Sometimes he tips his hand. Especially when he thinks he already owns not just the table but everybody seated at it, AND the casino that table’s in.

You’ve heard the term “confidence man”. Well he’s the COCKY confidence man.

[Tom Rinaldo]

2. That makes good sense to me, but no evidence is provided. Still speculation

But if the evidence of this emerges Benedict Arnold is dethroned.

[Irish_Dem]

6. But it is speculation based upon solid facts.

Trump has a long time history of criminal activity, including trying to overthrow the US government.

He is obsessed with money and has committed many crimes related to that obsession.

He had access to documents and in fact was caught with classified material in his home.

He was installed into office by an American enemy, Putin.

The list goes on and on.

[Ocelot II]

4. This is certainly possible, but who is Cheri Jacobus,

and how would she know?

[Eyeball_Kid]

7. She's some kind of media darling. She's been around media and social media platforms for a long time

Google her name.

But really, her "insightful" comment is not so insightful. ANYONE who's been paying attention would cozy up to the same conclusions.

[ashredux]

8. Flynn....that's the man that KNEW exactly what to take and sell....

[Evolve Dammit]

9. Investigation needed. Interview Parscale and all IT staff involved under oath.

[Mr. Ected]

10. Could someone point me to the clause in the Constitution that permits a President to do this?

Otherwise, this seems like the kind of offense that would generate multiple life sentences if proven.

While you're at it, could you point out the clause in the Constitution that says if you have a lot of followers on social media you can violate the Constitution at will?

Thanks in advance!

[triron]

25. I don't get it either.

Seems messed up to me.

[Skittles]

37. thank you

how in hell was that corrupt POS allowed to leave with ANYTHING

[Fiendish Thingy]

11. Does Jacobus have a source or any evidence for this claim?

Otherwise, it’s just another Conspiracy Theory.

[stopdiggin]

39. +1. And .. on the face of it

the 'document dump' at Mara-Lago (upon which we're basing the information we do have) - shows no sign of organized, systematic planning or intent (as would be suggested in the OP). If this was a well planned and methodical heist with purpose - then Mara-Lago was an incredibly incompetent and bumbling finale.

[secondwind]

42. Not necessarily....

Wasn’t Trump obliged in the end to “move quickly”?

[stopdiggin]

43. can't have it both ways

bundling (basically just 'dumping') box after box of 'stuff' in the basement - and then letting it sit there for 18 months? - doesn't sound like any kind of master plan or agenda to me. Cluster___ would be a much better description. I don't suppose either of us can speak to what Trump was doing with classified info during the time he was in the WH. But this 'dump' as a finale - speaks to no plan at all. Indicating nothing so much as dissolution - and chaos.

[JustAnotherGen]

12. At risk of being a conspiracy theorist

I can't help but wonder what was buried with his ex wife down the road in Bedminster?

Also - her 30 year non disclosure was coming up Okay - I have to go fix my tin foil hat now.

[infullview]

13. Hope they were smart enough to use gloves when they removed them.

I'm sure the FBI is dusting every one of these for fingerprints.

[Meadowoak]

15. I would be willing to bet there are dozens of finger prints on

Every one of those documents.

[gab13by13]

14. Trump gave Kash Patal and John Solomon

security clearances, for what purpose? I would look for their fingerprints.

[Kid Berwyn]

16. Ka$h Patel, come on down!

You, too, Gen. Flynn!



Lock them up.

[niyad]

17. Since one of the excuses was that the F'n, murdering, orange TRAITOR**

was "taking work home from the offuce", pretty evident that the theft was ongoing and long-term.

[BlueIdaho]

18. What a laugh...

TFG never did “homework” in his entire life. He’s a bullshit artist.

[gordianot]

19. Trump seems to trust the Secret Service.

Right now he is blaming another Federal Agency for his woes. Human Resources is not a strength for Donald.

[Ilsa]

20. Friendly foreign intelligence agencies (The Five Eyes) were said

to have become more circumspect in providing certain intel to the US after Trump had Lavrov, et al in the Oval.

Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and the United States comprise the Five Eyes. These countries are parties to the multilateral UKUSA Agreement, a treaty for joint cooperation in signals intelligence. I guess there were more worried about TFG than breaking the treaty.

That little bit of sown distrust is a way to isolate a nation from its friends. And that isolation makes it easier to "take down" that nation. The Undeclared War, a fictional series on Peacock, used that as a thread in the plot.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

29. Wolves cutting a nation off from the herd. . . .nt

[stopdiggin]

40. THIS is absolutely true

And your response to obvious reckless disregard - would be exactly the same.

[NJCher]

44. When Biden cut tfg off intelligence briefings

He was most likely acknowledging this.

Excellent point, Ilsa.

[NullTuples]

21. If they find anything at all that compromises nat'l security in the stash they've already recovered,

...shouldn't they get a warrant and raid all his other properties, too?

[orangecrush]

23. Yup

I

[Scrivener7]

38. We already know there were boxes of ts/sci documents in BOTH seizures.

The seizure of the 15 boxes in February and the 11 in August. Those are the kind of documents that only a very few can look at, and those very few people are only allowed to look at them in seecure pods inside Federal buildings.

One would think those warrants should have been served in March or earlier.

[orangecrush]

22. So, who will talk?

Put the screws on!

[Wounded Bear]

24. We know that trump didn't haul all those boxes himself...

He obviously had help, and speculating that it happened over an extended period makes perfect sense.

It's one big reason indictments have not been issued yet, the investigation is on-going. It's also why the affidavit won't be released, or will be released with a lot of blacked out text. Other people are involved, TBS.

[NoMoreRepugs]

26. To me the most important aspect of all of this is to keep shining the light on it constantly and

point out how Congressional and Senate Republicans that defend the ShitStain rump are complicit. Don't forget how HRC was tainted by the never ending ridiculous hearings.

[Higherarky]

27. "Drips" and drabs???

O lort, gimme strength!

[BWdem4life]

33. That reminds me, I need to fix my bathroom faucet...

It's been dribbing for quite awhile now.

[Higherarky]

34. If there's one thing I adore,

it's clever quips!

Thanx for making my day, Friend!

[Bernardo de La Paz]

28. Nobody noticed? That means either he had help or it really was a one off to Merde-a-loco. . . nt

[Jakes Progress]

30. Hillary nailed it in the debate. He is putin's puppet.

He has been working for putin both knowingly and as useful idiot for his whole term.

That the CIA and FBI, etc. don't know this and act on it is why the democratic system is on the edge.

[Grasswire2]

32. photo journalist Sandi Bachom has picture...

...of staff carrying a stack of several similar-appearing boxes out of Mar a Lago and then into Trump Tower.

It's surprising that his alternate residences haven't been searched.

And yes, the coffin ought to be exhumed but the fight to get access to that will not be easily won.

[jmowreader]

35. And now you know why Trump took all those "golf trips"

There is a very good chance Trump was moving classified information to his resorts the entire time he was in office.

The spy business relies on a lot of middlemen. If you’re a spy you may never meet your case officer. You’ll have a contact, that person will have one, and right up the chain before the information gets to the embassy and shipped back in diplomatic pouches to the agency’s headquarters. This is for deniability…only one person knows the spy, only one person knows the case officer, and everyone else gets the stuff from a guy and gives it to a guy.

So…Trump smuggles classified documents out of the White House and puts them in Room 237 f his hotel. The first courier is a member of the club and always gets Room 237 for reasons the staff does not know.

Here’s the frustrating part: even if all this comes out and Trump admits it in open court, there will still be a lot of people who think Trump is a wonderful man.

[NJCher]

46. I don't care if morons think he is a wonderful man

As to the way he would transfer the documents and how the middle man set up would work, I recall posting a story here about how Putin had become wary of trump because he is so erratic.

As I read your post, I was thinking that trump would never be capable of following the “rules” carefully over a period of time.

An attempt to set up such a system may have been what that meeting with the two Russians was about. That was early in his term and I believed he shut out the note taker. It caused a high degree of suspicion here.

[dalton99a]

36. Kick

[LiberalFighter]

41. Was there a scanner in the office or residential area of the White House?

Are classified government documents able to be copied or scanned without being marked?

[Justice]

45. Jared was said to have read all of the PDBs and other

Secure materials. Studiously.

Remember he couldn’t get a security clearance until Trump granted him one.

Kash Patel had clearances no doubt b/c of his work in WH. But how did John Solomon qualify?

[Deep State Witch]

47. DOJ

Needs to search Trump Tower and Bedminster, too.