It's breaking right now on Maddow and O'Donnell that trump himself...

[brush]

personally went through the stolen docs to see which ones to keep and which one to give back to the FBI.

Turn it on now. It's a breaking NYT story that he did this in front of witnesses.

[moondust]

1. Reported by witnesses.

Perhaps his fingerprints will show up on a lot of them to confirm it.

[brush]

4. It's still breaking. Reported by the NYT that he did the picking thru...

of the docs in front of witnesses. Further reporting and investigations will determine who the witnesses are. And of course they will have to testify under oath.

[KS Toronado]

41. Secret Service Agents are always by his side right?

[Locrian]

63. yeah - wont need "powder" for his cheeto stained prints to show up - n/t

[malaise]

2. Down he goes

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[liberaltrucker]

47. In Howard Cosell's voice...

"DOWN GOES TRUMPY!!!"

[malaise]

53. Whaaaaah

😀😀😀

[calimary]

77. We can only hope!

[Lucinda]

3. ❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️

[C_U_L8R]

5. Please let there be surveillance tape.

Sounds like there are witnesses, at least. If he keeps this up, Trump is going to finagle his way right into a supermax.

[BOSSHOG]

9. He'll have a massive heart attack

Be declared dead by Ronnie Jackson, and per trumps request his body will be sent to Moscow for burial.

[Joinfortmill]

29. 👍

[orleans]

34. with the digitized copies in his coat pocket. russia will grab his coat & throw that useless orange

douche to the sharks

[Abigail_Adams]

59. What a horrifying thought.

What if Don the Con is just smart enough to operate the camera on a cell phone? Then he can still sell state secrets to our enemies for years to come, even if the National Archives reclaim the originals. That thought is way too depressing.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

50. They have golf courses in Moscow?

[PJMcK]

58. Indeed there are!

https://www.google.com/search?q=moscow+russia+golf+courses&client=safari&hl=en-us&ei=LNoEY4uFEqGoptQP1YKX0AI&ved=0ahUKEwiLy7nQjN35AhUhlIkEHVXBBSoQ4dUDCA4&uact=5&oq=moscow+russia+golf+courses&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyBQgAEIAEMgYIABAeEAgyBQgAEIYDMgUIABCGAzIFCAAQhgMyBQgAEIYDOgcIABBHELADOgoIABBHELADEMkDOggIABCSAxCwAzoECAAQDToGCAAQHhAHOggIABAeEAgQBzoICAAQHhAIEA06CggAEB4QDxAIEA1KBAhBGABKBAhGGABQ7wtYuyBgvCdoAXABeACAAUyIAd4DkgEBN5gBAKABAcgBCsABAQ&sclient=gws-wiz

Of course, Trump doesn’t own them. Still, he cheats on every shot so… whatever.

[Ray Bruns]

56. I am good with that

[llashram]

61. or his

golf course cemetery next to Ivana...

[calimary]

68. That'd be fine with me.

Wherever he’s finally planted will be worth declaring as a toxic dump site.

[liberalla]

6. OMG! Woo Hoo !!!

[Cha]

7. "Witnesses" Turning on

DT!

[Blue Owl]

24. It's TOO delicious!!!

The Former Fuck is FUCKED!

[Joinfortmill]

28. 👍

[Cha]

38. LOL.. It's So

Delicious It's Surreal!

At your OWN PERIL! :

[electric_blue68]

43. Bwah! 😄

[calimary]

69. I'm sorry - that just made me laugh out loud!

[Cha]

76. Don't be sorry!

:

[riversedge]

51. donny's ego is going nutzo again

[Deuxcents]

8. And..his attorney that swore all was given back in June.

Lots of heads are gonna roll w/ this mess.

[kentuck]

10. Wow!

What next?!

[gab13by13]

12. More appeals, more delay tactics like the special master?

[Mr.Bill]

11. They need to search every residence

of lots of people involved in this. There is no way the FBI got all the documents he took. I've heard his airplane is operative again, and I'd be willing to bet there are some there, too. Sort of an insurance policy if he makes a run for it.

[gab13by13]

13. The ones that are missing are probably in a foreign country.

[Mr.Bill]

16. That is most likely. n/t

[OMGWTF]

40. Ivana's coffin took TEN struggling pallbearers to move. Weird for someone who was cremated.

https://politizoom.com/what-the-hell-is-in-ivanas-casket/

[liberalla]

70. Very interesting... Hmmm

[agingdem]

14. Because it's Trump,

I think there more caches of documents hidden on his properties, be it MAL or Bedminster…

[Nevilledog]

15. This story

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217072036

[Demobrat]

17. Would be even know what he was looking at?

Hard to believe he would unless it was incriminating pictures. Someone had to be with him. Someone who can read words of longer than one syllable.

[certainot]

21. someone lifted the boxes onto the desk, pulled the docs out, put them in front of him,

put them back in, and took the box back because he sure the fuck wouldn't and couldn't do anything but sit there and gork and have the assistants explain what the fuck he was looking at

if he saw something particularly exciting he probably jacked off the little mushroom to it

[Joinfortmill]

26. 👍

[lunatica]

37. Don't forget

They used to simplify the daily reports he got so he would understand them. Drawing pictures you know. Using simple language, like to a pre-literate two year old. Like comic books.

[Demobrat]

39. Exactly.

So how could he possibly know what he was reading when it came to things like nuclear weapons. I doubt if most intelligent lay people could. Maybe I’m wrong, but I’m thinking those documents are written by scientists for scientists. So how could a dufus with an eighth grade reading level if he’s lucky possibly know what they contained? Somebody had to tell him.

[brush]

65. They're marked with the level of classification from confidential, secret...

top secret, and then the highest level, top secret/sci

trump can understand which ones are potentially the most valuable to keep for himself for later dealngs.

[LaMouffette]

66. Precisely! Trump is dumb as a dust bunny, but he has a nose for sniffing out money-making schemes.

I'm sure he went through the documents looking for those he felt would get top dollar from the Russians, Saudis, et al.

[brush]

67. My feeling too. And for all we know, Jared may have...

already used classified info to get the 2B he got from the Saudis. It's suspected he earlier gave Saudi crown prince MBS info on the activities and location of Jamal Khashsoggi, which resulted in the journalist's gruesome death.

The trump cabal are not nice people. Money and power are their currency. They've lost power but are not at all above stealing and using the last remnants of their power to get as much money as they can.

These crooks need to go to jail.

[LaMouffette]

71. It's still just stunning to me that Jared and Ivanka received top-secret security clearances, but as

it turns out, they really didn't need security clearances at all since Traitor Trump was swiping classified documents and letting God knows who see them.

From a March 2019 Vanity Fair article:

The New York Times reports that the only reason Jared Kushner was granted the highest level of security clearance last May was because his father-in-law, Donald Trump, demanded it—over the objections of intelligence officials, the White House’s top lawyer, and the chief of staff at the time. Prior to May, Kushner had been assigned clearance on an “interim top-secret” basis, which was downgraded to “secret” in February 2018, and which limited his access to classified information. And for good reason!

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/03/jared-kushner-security-clearance

[SergeStorms]

46. If Flynn was directing the operation...

even Trump couldn't screw it up. Only the best documents, the ones that would bring the highest price on the international market, would be hidden. The rest they returned to the National Archives.

[Captain Zero]

64. Flynn and Kash Patel

Always by his side for project of the moment.

Our country would be so much safer if Flynn and Patel were locked up for 20 years with no parole.

[Warpy]

18. Interesting if they can prove it

maning low level employees he considered part of the furniture would have to be close enough to read file names, remember them, and testify about them months later.

Still, I'll be happy for even a long shot like that hanging the bastard.

[brush]

19. It's much more than a long shot. And the witnesses are not low...

level "furniture" according to the NYT (try lawyers and other higher-ups). This looks like the biggest break in the story yet as it puts the docs in trump's hands deciding which ones to keep and which to give back...docs he of course had no business having at all.

The story will be repeated and of course it'll be on "Morning Joe" and all the shows tomorrow.

[Tumbulu]

20. I got the idea that this info came from the surveillance tapes

that the FBI already has.

So, it requires no more corroboration. Or at least whatever corroboration they receive is only conformational.

[brush]

25. Possible, but that's not all or the most important thing the NYT story reported.

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It reported that trump presonally picked and and kept back the docs he wanted to keep and the ones he wanted to give back to the FBI. This is extremely damaging as it puts the documents in trump's hands, meaning he had personal possession not just had them stored. This is all that's needed to indict according to a guest on the O'Donnell show.

[Gaugamela]

22. For Trump to go through that many boxes and that many documents

he’s got to be desperate. This is the guy who couldn’t be bothered to read a daily briefing that had been compressed down to a single page. I hope his ghost haunts MAL for eternity, rifling through documents in the middle of the night and howling in terror.

[Joinfortmill]

23. He needs to be indicted. Now.

[murielm99]

44. Frog march.

[SergeStorms]

48. I'd settle for...

a massive stroke that left him a drooling invalid, paralyzed from the neck down, but be mentally acute enough to be aware of everything going on around him. Of course his speech would have to be dramatically effected as well. No wheeling him into rallies to make speeches.

Is that too much to wish for?

[Beetwasher.]

27. And the Mole Rears it's Ugly Head Again!

Or moles. Or everyone. Tee hee.

[Joinfortmill]

30. 👍

[orangecrush]

54. A very moley mole

[H2O Man]

31. Recommended.

Thank you.

[progressoid]

32. New York Times!11!! FAKE NEWZ!!111!!

Seriously, check out the right wing bobble heads tomorrow. Especially on right wing radio or blogs. The topic will be that you can't believe the Jew York Times.

[brush]

33. Some will follow their fuhrer right to and through the gates of hell.

Truth will out though so fuck them.

[Fiendish Thingy]

35. NYT broke the story, then buried it

Focusing instead on the number of documents, rather than Trump’s actions, which appear to further establish knowledge of his crimes and intent.

[Turbineguy]

36. He must hate being the second worst president is US history.

Maybe this will move him into the 1st worst president in US history, ever and for always.

[Zambero]

55. Who is the competition for worst?

I could conjure up a short list for potential second-place train wrecks, but not one of them would come close to TFG.

[treestar]

60. +1 TFG has replaced whoever it was before.

[EnergizedLib]

42. This just keeps getting worse and worse

And it turns out it’s getting worse than we thought.

I for one, want to volunteer to be the one to throw him in his cell and throw away the key.

[Jarqui]

45. Question: what security clearance did Trump lawyers Corcoran & Bobb have?

https://archive.ph/7K3vV

On June 3, Jay Bratt, the chief of the counterespionage section of the national security division of the Justice Department, went to Mar-a-Lago to meet with two of Mr. Trump’s lawyers, Evan Corcoran and Christina Bobb, and retrieve any remaining classified material to satisfy the subpoena. Mr. Corcoran went through the boxes himself to identify classified material beforehand, according to two people familiar with his efforts.

Mr. Corcoran showed Mr. Bratt the basement storage room where, he said, the remaining material had been kept.

Mr. Trump briefly came to see the investigators during the visit.

Mr. Bratt and the agents who joined him were given a sheaf of classified material, according to two people familiar with the meeting. Mr. Corcoran then drafted a statement, which Ms. Bobb, who is said to be the custodian of the documents, signed. It asserted that, to the best of her knowledge, all classified material that was there had been returned, according to two people familiar with the statement.

Mr. Corcoran did not respond to repeated requests for comment.

Evan Corcoran bio
https://www.silvermanthompson.com/m-evan-corcoran.html

These people were custodian of the classified documents and went through the boxes to pull classified documents. They should have security clearance but their bios do not reflect that.

[crickets]

49. *ding!* They had no business being anywhere near the documents.

None of them did. It's like watching the Keystone Cops as this thing unfolds. The incompetence would be hilarious if it all weren't so deadly serious.

[riversedge]

52. Neither does dumpy trumpy

[bullwinkle428]

57. He has a lifetime history with NDAs. He has ALWAYS been desperate to keep

certain things about his life completely secret, at least as long as he's alive.

[flying_wahini]

62. I'm just betting that all those documents were searched for fingerprints, don't you?

Flynn probably has his all over them, among others.

My concern is that the reason the FBI knew about the other docs
is that he was sending them to Putin and CIA caught it.

[Blue Owl]

72. They'll find traces of feces from his feculent little fat fingers

[lees1975]

73. If this had been almost anyone else, they'd be held in jail, passport confiscated, no bail

but of course, the GOP is the party of law and order, right?

[Snackshack]

74. I don't think this..

I can break the law as I damn well please as long as I have lots witnesses is going to work out well in the end for him.

[Demovictory9]

75. K&R