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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJeff Tiedrich morning tweet (about Reality Winner):
Last edited Tue Aug 23, 2022, 01:29 PM - Edit history (1)
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your reminder that Reality Winner swiped one document and was quickly arrested and did four years in prison. no polite requests. no gently-worded letters. no pretty-pleases. no second chances. no months-long negotiations. one document. four years
No one is above the law, but one is more above then us all, it seems.
Edited to add this tweet of 60 Minutes video of Winner's interview:
Link to tweet
FarPoint
(12,360 posts)Justice matters.
(6,928 posts)Reality Leigh Winner is an American former intelligence specialist. In 2017, she was charged with "removing classified material from a government facility and mailing it to a news outlet".
The material in question originated with the National Security Agency. On June 3, 2017, while employed by the military contractor Pluribus International Corporation, Winner was arrested on suspicion of leaking an intelligence report about Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections ...
Criminal charge: 18 U.S. Code § 793(e) Gathering, transmitting or losing national defense information
Criminal status: Convicted upon guilty plea
Occupation: Intelligence specialist
Years active: 4 to 6 months
Reality Winner - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality_Winner
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality_Winner
FarPoint
(12,360 posts)Thank YOU!
Justice matters.
(6,928 posts)Quite revealing, isn't it?
FarPoint
(12,360 posts)Places things into a measurable perspective now .
not fooled
(5,801 posts)she committed the worst crime: making look bad selling off of the U.S. Government to private contractors and all the $$$$$ that flows therefrom.
relayerbob
(6,544 posts)Sound good to me. Make it hold true for all his descendents, too.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)G2theD
(593 posts)msfiddlestix
(7,282 posts)coming on two years of just the treasonous crimes he committed following the 2020 elections, not to mention any of the myriad of organized crimes before ever coming to office in the first place. He should have been RICO'd decades ago.
At the very least the moment he tossed his hat in the 2016 election campaign, swooped up by the feds for the latter before he had a chance to committ more crimes under the seal of the president of the united states.
just let that sink in our collective heads for just a moment before we place in our faith in the U.S. Justice System filled with sleeper agents protecting that monster for all this time.
G2theD
(593 posts)Luckily, when you pass out you would take a breath regardless.
But it would be embarrassing if someone was around to see.
Only a fool would not think his indictment was a done deal. Hes a slippery fish, but a big trophy fish nonetheless!
msfiddlestix
(7,282 posts)Or someone who hasn't witnessed 3/4 of CENTURY, Crimes committed by individuals in powerful positions get away with all or most of it.
So, Don't Hold Your Breath for any meaningful consequences.
Although indictments would be a good start, Prosecuted, Convicted and SENTENCED to Serve Time IN the PENETURY is the point.
G2theD
(593 posts)They have an ironclad case so the question is will they indict.
If they dont indict its because they are afraid of the maga crazies, because almost everyone not MAGA wants this turd strung up by his balls.
Maybe we could put him in stocks in the public square and raise money by letting people throw a tomato at his ugly mug for $10 each. Id put $1000 in my pocket and fly from Wisconsin just to pelt the orange bastard.
G2theD
(593 posts)1 year per document = 300 years
Good behavior cut it down to only 100 years
Eligible for parole after 50 years
Im a nice guy!
KS Toronado
(17,234 posts)if they think tfg is being treated unfairly over mar-a-LARDo raid.
Probatim
(2,529 posts)Who knew the breadth of truth in that statement.
markodochartaigh
(1,138 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(15,611 posts)Schulte stole thousands of secret documents, including CIA hacking tools.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/m7geyn/ex-cia-hacker-convicted-for-one-of-the-most-damaging-acts-of-espionage-in-american-history
It took 15 months just to indict Schulte, and even longer to convict him.
So, Reality Winner stole one classified document and was quickly indicted.
Schulte stole thousands, and wasnt brought to Justice for years.
Trump stole hundreds of documents, and is the first former president to be criminally investigated.
Which timeline do you think Trumps crimes would/should follow, Winners or Schultes?
ChazInAz
(2,569 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(15,611 posts)Justice matters.
(6,928 posts)snip:
Unlike Chelsea Manning, who in 2010 gave WikiLeaks thousands of secret documents pertaining to the Iraq and Afghanistan wars because she wanted the public to know of war crimes and change how people looked at those wars, Schulte was more motivated by hatred of the CIA and to spite his former colleagues, according to Schutes former colleagues, who spoke to the New Yorker.
Schulte, who had really bad OPSEC, has another federal case still pending for possession of child exploitation material, which the feds allege Schulte had on his laptop when they raided his apartment.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,611 posts)thesquanderer
(11,986 posts)Trump hadn't done that.
Yet.
As far as we know.
Justice matters.
(6,928 posts)Reality Winner (what a name, eh?) STOLE the documents. A US-Criminal-Code crime.
She paid for that crime very quickly.
Do you really think that if she just STOLE the document but had not disseminated it, she wouldn't have been charged?
She did the 1st crime AND the 2nd crime. She paid for both.
The orange menace did the 1st crime(s). He continues to destroy the country on a daily basis free of charge(s).
Collimator
(1,639 posts)Always makes me think of a racehorse.
And there's no need for anyone to chime in as to whether or not there was actually a horse by that name. I'll Google it myself when I get a chance.
Google Bless you all.
(Decided that "GD" means "Google Damn" 'cause Google is the real omnipresent power in the world.)
thesquanderer
(11,986 posts)G2theD
(593 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(15,611 posts)thesquanderer
(11,986 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(15,611 posts)But yes, it was a more severe sentence because she gave the document to someone.
SunSeeker
(51,552 posts)not a texan
(39 posts)I am not going to go back and find all the supporting information, just using old personal memory banks in need of an update. Trump met with Russians, I believe in the White House, no interpreters from our country. After that meeting some countries reduced the amount of intelligence they were willing to share with the U.S. If I remember correctly agents had to pulled to save their lives due to his providing information that would enable them to be identified by the nature of the information.
I do not know if he sold or traded this information, or if he just did it because he is an idiot. He would tell them anything if they said they liked his hair.
dchill
(38,489 posts)Yet untouchable.
SunSeeker
(51,552 posts)calimary
(81,261 posts)I'd assume the worst from the orange jerk.
It usually turns out to be accurate. OR - at times it turns out what you thought was the worst wasn't even half of it.
But remember: this guy has been - as Rachel Maddow has started saying, "criming" whose infinitive verb form is "to crime." After all, "crime" with some of these fiends, has become a verb to describe what they do.
Justice matters.
(6,928 posts)Heading for the Greatest Page!
werdna
(469 posts)- (standard case of 10 reams of copy/printer paper @ 500 sheets per ream = 5000 sheets. 1000 accounts for envelopes, folders, other materials), factoring political mumbo-jumbo in sentencing, at 1 week jail time per doc comes out to, rounded up, 385 years. Of course, if only the 150 classified docs (so far) are considered, we get less than 3 years jail time.
calimary
(81,261 posts)Wouldn't it be wonderful to see trump put away for 385 years? If anybody deserved it, he certainly does.
Martin68
(22,800 posts)Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,343 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)Cha
(297,210 posts)"Reality Winner" was?
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