Jeff Tiedrich morning tweet (about Reality Winner):

[Justice matters.]

Last edited Tue Aug 23, 2022, 12:29 PM - Edit history (1)

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your reminder that Reality Winner swiped one document and was quickly arrested and did four years in prison. no polite requests. no gently-worded letters. no pretty-pleases. no second chances. no months-long negotiations. one document. four years

No one is above the law, but one is more above then us all, it seems.


Edited to add this tweet of 60 Minutes video of Winner's interview:

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“I am not a traitor. I am not a spy. I am somebody who only acted out of love for what this country stands for.” Reality Winner explains why she leaked to the media classified information on Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election. https://cbsn.ws/3B9UxQo

[FarPoint]

1. Who might be the reality winner of past crimes?

[Justice matters.]

3. Whistle-blower (the document was about Russian interference in our elections) ...

Reality Leigh Winner is an American former intelligence specialist. In 2017, she was charged with "removing classified material from a government facility and mailing it to a news outlet".

The material in question originated with the National Security Agency. On June 3, 2017, while employed by the military contractor Pluribus International Corporation, Winner was arrested on suspicion of leaking an intelligence report about Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections ...

Criminal charge: 18 U.S. Code § 793(e) – Gathering, transmitting or losing national defense information

Criminal status: Convicted upon guilty plea

Occupation: Intelligence specialist

Years active: 4 to 6 months

Reality Winner - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality_Winner

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality_Winner

[FarPoint]

5. OHHHH....

Thank YOU!

[Justice matters.]

6. She is a democracy Heroine. He's a lifelong sleaze.

Quite revealing, isn't it?

[FarPoint]

8. This certainly

Places things into a measurable perspective now .

[not fooled]

27. Yes, but

she committed the worst crime: making look bad selling off of the U.S. Government to private contractors and all the $$$$$ that flows therefrom.

[relayerbob]

2. 1200 years

Sound good to me. Make it hold true for all his descendents, too.

[sarcasmo]

4. Trump should get 700 years, 1 year per document.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

11. 700 pages, 300 documents. . . .nt

[G2theD]

33. Let's just say he will be in prison for the rest of his natural life.

[msfiddlestix]

40. Yeah, well.. not holding my breath at this point.

coming on two years of just the treasonous crimes he committed following the 2020 elections, not to mention any of the myriad of organized crimes before ever coming to office in the first place. He should have been RICO'd decades ago.

At the very least the moment he tossed his hat in the 2016 election campaign, swooped up by the feds for the latter before he had a chance to committ more crimes under the seal of the president of the united states.

just let that sink in our collective heads for just a moment before we place in our faith in the U.S. Justice System filled with sleeper agents protecting that monster for all this time.

[G2theD]

42. Definitely DON'T HOLD YOUR BREATH!

Luckily, when you pass out you would take a breath regardless.

But it would be embarrassing if someone was around to see.

Only a fool would not think his indictment was a done deal. He’s a slippery fish, but a big trophy fish nonetheless!

[msfiddlestix]

44. Only a fool would Bank On It.

Or someone who hasn't witnessed 3/4 of CENTURY, Crimes committed by individuals in powerful positions get away with all or most of it.


So, Don't Hold Your Breath for any meaningful consequences.

Although indictments would be a good start, Prosecuted, Convicted and SENTENCED to Serve Time IN the PENETURY is the point.

[G2theD]

45. It's the indictment that matters

They have an ironclad case so the question is will they indict.

If they don’t indict it’s because they are afraid of the maga crazies, because almost everyone not MAGA wants this turd strung up by his balls.

Maybe we could put him in stocks in the public square and raise money by letting people throw a tomato at his ugly mug for $10 each. I’d put $1000 in my pocket and fly from Wisconsin just to pelt the orange bastard.

[G2theD]

46. I'd be generous to him

1 year per document = 300 years
Good behavior cut it down to only 100 years
Eligible for parole after 50 years

I’m a nice guy!

[KS Toronado]

7. Good thing to remind MAGAts of

if they think tfg is being treated unfairly over mar-a-LARDo raid.

[Probatim]

9. If you're rich, they just let you do it.

Who knew the breadth of truth in that statement.

[markodochartaigh]

12. Excellent point. Nt

[Fiendish Thingy]

10. Additional reminder: it took 15 months to indict Joshua Schulte

Schulte stole thousands of secret documents, including CIA hacking tools.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/m7geyn/ex-cia-hacker-convicted-for-one-of-the-most-damaging-acts-of-espionage-in-american-history

It took 15 months just to indict Schulte, and even longer to convict him.

So, Reality Winner stole one classified document and was quickly indicted.

Schulte stole thousands, and wasn’t brought to Justice for years.

Trump stole hundreds of documents, and is the first former president to be criminally investigated.

Which timeline do you think Trump’s crime’s would/should follow, Winner’s or Schulte’s?

[ChazInAz]

13. Might I suggest Judge Roy Bean's timelines?

[Fiendish Thingy]

17. So, fascism? Nt

[Justice matters.]

15. Winner's. Period.

snip:

Unlike Chelsea Manning, who in 2010 gave WikiLeaks thousands of secret documents pertaining to the Iraq and Afghanistan wars because she wanted the public to know of war crimes and change how people looked at those wars, Schulte was more motivated by hatred of the CIA and to spite his former colleagues, according to Schute’s former colleagues, who spoke to the New Yorker.

Schulte, who had really bad OPSEC, has another federal case still pending for possession of child exploitation material, which the feds allege Schulte had on his laptop when they raided his apartment.

[Fiendish Thingy]

18. So, a rapid indictment, and when Trump doesn't plead guilty, a rapid acquittal/dismissal? Nt

[thesquanderer]

14. though Winner didn't just swipe the document, she disseminated it. That's significant.

Trump hadn't done that.

Yet.

As far as we know.

[Justice matters.]

16. Mango Mussolini STOLE the documents. A US-Criminal-Code crime.

Reality Winner (what a name, eh?) STOLE the documents. A US-Criminal-Code crime.

She paid for that crime very quickly.

Do you really think that if she just STOLE the document but had not disseminated it, she wouldn't have been charged?

She did the 1st crime AND the 2nd crime. She paid for both.

The orange menace did the 1st crime(s). He continues to destroy the country on a daily basis free of charge(s).

[Collimator]

23. "Reality Winner (what a name, eh?)"

Always makes me think of a racehorse.

And there's no need for anyone to chime in as to whether or not there was actually a horse by that name. I'll Google it myself when I get a chance.

Google Bless you all.

(Decided that "GD" means "Google Damn" 'cause Google is the real omnipresent power in the world.)

[thesquanderer]

24. Right. But her severe sentence was for the combination of the two crimes, not just the one. n/t

[G2theD]

34. Maybe she got a plea deal for a shorter sentence too.

[Fiendish Thingy]

19. Simple possession of NDI is a violation of the Espionage Act. Nt

[thesquanderer]

26. Right. But her severe sentence was for the combination of the two crimes, not just the one. n/t

[Fiendish Thingy]

28. I think it was one crime, 18 USC 793 which covers both possession and transmission

But yes, it was a more severe sentence because she gave the document to someone.

[SunSeeker]

20. K & R & Retweeted!

[not a texan]

21. We already know he gives away information

I am not going to go back and find all the supporting information, just using old personal memory banks in need of an update. Trump met with Russians, I believe in the White House, no interpreters from our country. After that meeting some countries reduced the amount of intelligence they were willing to share with the U.S. If I remember correctly agents had to pulled to save their lives due to his providing information that would enable them to be identified by the nature of the information.

I do not know if he sold or traded this information, or if he just did it because he is an idiot. He would tell them anything if they said they liked his hair.

[dchill]

22. Yep. Traitor from the get-go.

Yet untouchable.

[SunSeeker]

32. You remember correctly. nt

[calimary]

38. Welcome to DU, not a texan!

I'd assume the worst from the orange jerk.

It usually turns out to be accurate. OR - at times it turns out what you thought was the worst wasn't even half of it.

But remember: this guy has been - as Rachel Maddow has started saying, "criming" whose infinitive verb form is "to crime." After all, "crime" with some of these fiends, has become a verb to describe what they do.

[Justice matters.]

25. Kick (edited OP to add a tweet of 60 Minutes video)

Heading for the Greatest Page!

[werdna]

29. Let's see. 20 boxes @ minimum 1000 docs a box -

- (standard case of 10 reams of copy/printer paper @ 500 sheets per ream = 5000 sheets. 1000 accounts for envelopes, folders, other materials), factoring political mumbo-jumbo in sentencing, at 1 week jail time per doc comes out to, rounded up, 385 years. Of course, if only the 150 classified docs (so far) are considered, we get less than 3 years jail time.

[calimary]

39. Welcome to DU, werdna!

Wouldn't it be wonderful to see trump put away for 385 years? If anybody deserved it, he certainly does.

[Martin68]

30. This is something that we should really talk up and publicize.

[Pepsidog]

31. I need to watch the rest of this piece.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

35. Justice might be blind, but here in America, she can smell money.

[Ferrets are Cool]

36. This x 1 million

[Cha]

37. Wow... I wondered who the

"Reality Winner" was?

Thank You!

No "privilege" for DT

[BSdetect]

41. Why is she not pardoned by now?

[LetMyPeopleVote]

43. TFG needs to get the same treatment as Reality Winner

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