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Tweet of the Night: (Original Post) applegrove Aug 2022 OP
K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Aug 2022 #1
At least one trained blood relative declined to Tetrachloride Aug 2022 #2
Let's see... rubbersole Aug 2022 #3
Making things harder for public school teachers has been going on applegrove Aug 2022 #4
What they HATE is...... MyOwnPeace Aug 2022 #15
Vibes to you all. applegrove Aug 2022 #16
Yep! This. calimary Aug 2022 #18
*** soldierant Aug 2022 #20
Indeed! Wounded Bear Aug 2022 #5
This! And it goes for all other workers. OMGWTF Aug 2022 #10
Unions are made necessary by the employers of their members. dchill Aug 2022 #12
Exactly. calimary Aug 2022 #19
Truth, and a generation of children will pay the price: a decent education, crickets Aug 2022 #6
We're still feeling ripples from Rotten Ronnie; how long will the new ones do damage? Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2022 #7
X 1,000 OMGWTF Aug 2022 #11
THAT'S THEIR PURPOSE! erronis Aug 2022 #8
Teachers make all other professions possible. OMGWTF Aug 2022 #9
He'll yes! BigmanPigman Aug 2022 #13
If you pay them like Babysitters, what's going rate these days $20/hr? aggiesal Aug 2022 #14
And then whine that "nobody wants to work anymore" IronLionZion Aug 2022 #17
K&R Talitha Aug 2022 #21

Tetrachloride

(9,624 posts)
2. At least one trained blood relative declined to
Thu Aug 25, 2022, 08:30 PM
Aug 2022

enter the teaching profession in the sciences. Probably one more in the humanities tho less trained.

rubbersole

(11,223 posts)
3. Let's see...
Thu Aug 25, 2022, 08:33 PM
Aug 2022

Demonize health care workers, school teachers, law enforcement officials, government officials and anyone who doesn't toe the twisted trumpy narrative. Putin's chaos agenda. It's working.

applegrove

(132,216 posts)
4. Making things harder for public school teachers has been going on
Thu Aug 25, 2022, 08:38 PM
Aug 2022

for decades. They hate the teachers' unions. They hate good educators.

MyOwnPeace

(17,557 posts)
15. What they HATE is......
Thu Aug 25, 2022, 10:22 PM
Aug 2022

the chance that they can't CONTROL teachers. NOTICE I said 'CHANCE.' Truth is, the laws are lining up to allow them to do so.
The "curriculum" debate has been what's driving the issue for years. The 'power' that school boards have over what's being taught (plus figure in what the state programs can mandate) is driving the crisis in our schools. It is all magnified when you look at what DeSatin is doing to the public education system in Florida.
Would YOU want to work for that idiot?

The Repukes have wisely schemed their way into power starting at the LOCAL level - school boards, county commissioners, state legislators - to the point that THEY control what's happening in YOUR town - and that is now giving them the power to establish the rules for ELECTIONS - who will 'decide' who won - and if they don't like it - they have the power to 'fix' it!

We've given away TOO much - NOW is the time to step up and get control of our DEMOCRATIC society.

Yes, GAWD, I hate to say it - but it is time for us to TAKE BACK AMERICA - like it really needs to be done........

Wounded Bear

(64,324 posts)
5. Indeed!
Thu Aug 25, 2022, 08:47 PM
Aug 2022

I always when people complain about teacher's unions.

Me? I want to know why we made conditions for teachers so shitty that they felt the need to unionize.

calimary

(90,021 posts)
19. Exactly.
Thu Aug 25, 2022, 11:11 PM
Aug 2022

Union member here. Unions wouldn’t be necessary if workers were treated and paid better. FAR better!

crickets

(26,168 posts)
6. Truth, and a generation of children will pay the price: a decent education,
Thu Aug 25, 2022, 08:50 PM
Aug 2022

something every child in this country has a right to receive, and should receive as a matter of course in a civilized society.

erronis

(23,880 posts)
8. THAT'S THEIR PURPOSE!
Thu Aug 25, 2022, 09:20 PM
Aug 2022

I almost NEVER use ALL CAPS but we need to understand that the enemies want our children to be:
- uneducated in critical analysis
- educated in religious doctrines

BigmanPigman

(55,137 posts)
13. He'll yes!
Thu Aug 25, 2022, 09:38 PM
Aug 2022

Teachers make 33% less than other professions with similar degrees. That is A LOT and there are are zillion other reasons why teaching is a shitty career.

When I first started teaching I learned that one of the reasons for the low pay and respect was due to the unusually high amount of females in the profession. Women are always paid less and this is one clear example of how the business of schooling is all about $$$$$. Districts don't care about the kids or the teachers. It is all hot air when the pretend they care when it all comes down to the bottom line and they waste tons of $$$. It is all about taking kick backs from textbook publishers, etc.

aggiesal

(10,804 posts)
14. If you pay them like Babysitters, what's going rate these days $20/hr?
Thu Aug 25, 2022, 10:01 PM
Aug 2022

Or let's just stick to minimum wage of $15?
$15/hr. from 8am to 3pm, which is 7hr. or $105 per day.
30 kids per classroom so that's $105 x 30 = $3,150/day
$3,150 x 5 days a week = $15,750/week
$15,750 x 39 weeks (9 months) = $614,250 for a school year.

We can adjust for reality, because I really don't know how many hours a teacher really spends
or average class size or how many weeks in a school year. But taking half that, you'd live a
really good life.

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