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kentuck

(111,110 posts)
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 07:57 AM Aug 2022

Trump is asking his advisers if he is going to be "indicted".

Heard a short report on CNN about it.

I would be surprised if he is indicted before the election in November. However, who knows what that maniac, Merrick Garland might do?

But, I do believe he will be indicted.

He has tried every trick in his delays and deceptions book and none of them are working. He has stated his innocence, even with all the evidence staring him in the face. He has filed suit. He has gone searching for a friendly judge, one that he appointed. He has called names. He has blamed others. He has threatened the Attorney General. He has called the DOJ "sleazy". He has called for the return of "his" documents. He has done everything except offer a defense for what he did.

Now, he is worried that he might be indicted.

Hopefully, he will not have to worry much longer.

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Trump is asking his advisers if he is going to be "indicted". (Original Post) kentuck Aug 2022 OP
Indict him and let's get it over with. There's so much work livetohike Aug 2022 #1
Like it or not, there is politics involved. kentuck Aug 2022 #2
Christ, I HOPE an indictment would pnwest Aug 2022 #18
the party of trump is the party of limbaugh and he rots somewhere in missouri or florida certainot Aug 2022 #61
no indictment this close to an election vlyons Aug 2022 #20
TFG isn't running for any office this year. Lasher Aug 2022 #44
Only for candidates Fiendish Thingy Aug 2022 #55
There's also laws involded. He's legally allowed to fight it all until he get's each motion in ... marble falls Aug 2022 #31
Garland has said he would ignore politics. Progressive dog Aug 2022 #66
More like... 2naSalit Aug 2022 #7
This!👆 SheltieLover Aug 2022 #11
Both of these comments... SuperCoder Aug 2022 #12
Waiting with baited breath! LuvJoesPartner Aug 2022 #3
I think today will be a good indication Johnny2X2X Aug 2022 #4
I agree. kentuck Aug 2022 #6
Yes, I'm looking forward to reading the unredacted portions. They should be very revealing, liberalla Aug 2022 #8
He must be confined to a psychiatric hospital to prevent his suicide. I don't him NCjack Aug 2022 #5
suicide? never. Run? Absolutely! getagrip_already Aug 2022 #14
He is very selfish. He would do it. Hitler did. NCjack Aug 2022 #15
hitler was facing a very undisciplined russian army...... getagrip_already Aug 2022 #19
"...until an eventual gop potus pardons him..." LastLiberal in PalmSprings Aug 2022 #47
A future POTUS can't pardon him for state convictions, MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2022 #57
counterweight: Hitler was a warrior and Trump is a coward. He will do it. NCjack Aug 2022 #67
No. Narcissists never commit suicide. They'll cause others to take their own lives, Texin Aug 2022 #41
there are far more likely sanctuaries that don't have absolute extradition with the us.... getagrip_already Aug 2022 #42
If I needed to flee, I head to Andorra or Montenegro. Texin Aug 2022 #45
Set out a Bench Warrant for him. A HERETIC I AM Aug 2022 #9
Depends on how the indictment is worded. ProudMNDemocrat Aug 2022 #10
Even if he is convicted, orthoclad Aug 2022 #13
Golf! 1:3000 odds of being hit by lightening while playing golf-- keep playing ffg#45! RestoreAmerica2020 Aug 2022 #40
pubic hair panader0 Aug 2022 #50
I hear that injecting bleach will fend off an indictment. marmar Aug 2022 #16
Drinking a gallon of gasoline and then smoking a cigarette,... magicarpet Aug 2022 #23
I read that trump is threatening to attack any republican who runs against him or supports rainin Aug 2022 #17
except desantis is already running..... getagrip_already Aug 2022 #21
Hopefully, enough of Trump's followers will stick with him as he self-immolates. sop Aug 2022 #29
wouldn't that be a shame? hheheheheh getagrip_already Aug 2022 #32
That's an interesting point... kentuck Aug 2022 #51
I predict that once he's indicted, even those who want him out of the race will feign outrage rainin Aug 2022 #58
He should pull a Snowden and flee to Russia IronLionZion Aug 2022 #22
via an equally vile third country....... getagrip_already Aug 2022 #33
I believe the US state dept is using psy-ops on us and the magats by starting all this "smoke" lindysalsagal Aug 2022 #24
Two schools of thought Mr. Ected Aug 2022 #25
I don't see what the election in November has to do with it jcgoldie Aug 2022 #26
tfg is always on the ballot.... getagrip_already Aug 2022 #38
Spinnin' a rope is fun if your neck ain't in it. Will Rogers. twodogsbarking Aug 2022 #27
Of course not Donnie keep paying me lol wildman76 Aug 2022 #28
I won't hold my breath. The last couple of times I almost passed out. Siwsan Aug 2022 #30
Very witty especially in the morning :-) Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2022 #46
He is not a "sitting President" anymore, even though way too much actual sitting is a problem... Evolve Dammit Aug 2022 #34
Well of course I don't believe them, but I tell you, some of his spokesmen have got a defense down Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2022 #35
Whether one believes he owns ts/sci documents or not, stealing them and then Justice matters. Aug 2022 #53
Stroke out already, you F'n, murdering, orange TRAITOR**. niyad Aug 2022 #36
Well, I read right here on Du that it will all happen on September 22. BlackSkimmer Aug 2022 #37
Vacation Planning Desert Dog Aug 2022 #39
I have posted this too many times: Botany Aug 2022 #43
What a child. nt Xipe Totec Aug 2022 #48
Looking forward to the day TFG and esp Bannon are locked up. Flynn would be nice, too. flying_wahini Aug 2022 #49
Indict, convict, jail, forget, move forward. Handler Aug 2022 #52
He shouldn't ask if he's going to be indicted. RocRizzo55 Aug 2022 #54
Recommended. H2O Man Aug 2022 #56
Judgement day is coming! Emile Aug 2022 #59
K & R....Trump is much.."TOO STUPID TO KNOW THE TRUTH!" .....and... Stuart G Aug 2022 #60
Nope krkaufman Aug 2022 #65
"He has threatened the Attorney General" krkaufman Aug 2022 #62
I'm betting on Georgia. Personally, I think a woman of color would be his perfect ending. mjvpi Aug 2022 #63
He should have been indicted long ago. Jay25 Aug 2022 #64

livetohike

(22,165 posts)
1. Indict him and let's get it over with. There's so much work
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 08:02 AM
Aug 2022

to do and Trump is like an annoying mosquito that just won’t go way.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
2. Like it or not, there is politics involved.
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 08:04 AM
Aug 2022

Would an indictment affect the turnout in the next election? The AG may ignore that question, but I sort of doubt it.

pnwest

(3,266 posts)
18. Christ, I HOPE an indictment would
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 09:23 AM
Aug 2022

affect the election. The party of trump needs to be rocked to its core, purged of trumpers, and set on a path back to sanity.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
61. the party of trump is the party of limbaugh and he rots somewhere in missouri or florida
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 10:50 AM
Aug 2022

trump's not far behind.

he's never been stressed until recently - he always denied the existence of anything that should have worried him. now he's thinking about orange jump suits and prison food and is bound for a mcdonalds induced stroke

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
20. no indictment this close to an election
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 09:24 AM
Aug 2022

think the DOJ has a rule about no indictments within 60 days of an election.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,684 posts)
55. Only for candidates
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 10:44 AM
Aug 2022

Plenty of non-candidates who can pose for mug shots in the next couple of months…

marble falls

(57,350 posts)
31. There's also laws involded. He's legally allowed to fight it all until he get's each motion in ...
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 09:43 AM
Aug 2022

... front of the SCOTUS, if he chooses. He has, and he's lost in the upper courts over 60 times, and won once.

He's running out of space and he's painting himself into a corner legally. His cronies and motley followers are being gathered up and jugged, his CFO has to choose between honoring his plea agreement or standing mute and getting 15yrs instead of a year. The walls are tightening.

Protecting his due process protects ours. It's not like he's a litter bug or shop lifter.

He'll be in jail as soon as is legally possible.

Progressive dog

(6,921 posts)
66. Garland has said he would ignore politics.
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 05:16 PM
Aug 2022
Attorney General Merrick Garland said Thursday that when it comes to politically sensitive investigations, the Justice Department does "not shy away from cases that are controversial or sensitive or political."
"To do that would undermine an element of the rule of law, which is that we treat like cases alike without regard to the subject matter," Garland told reporters in response to a question about the January 6 investigation.

"What we will avoid and what we must avoid is any partisan element of our decision making about cases," Garland said. "That is what I am intent on ensuring, that the department's decisions are made on the merits, and they're made on the facts and the law. And they're not based on any kind of partisan considerations."

2naSalit

(86,835 posts)
7. More like...
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 08:12 AM
Aug 2022

A horsefly that won't stop buzzing around your head and every time it lands on you, it rips off a little patch of skin when you shoo it away or swat at it.

 

SuperCoder

(300 posts)
12. Both of these comments...
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 08:46 AM
Aug 2022

Are 100% on point.

Like Pelosi says: There will be no unity until Trump is held accountable.

Johnny2X2X

(19,192 posts)
4. I think today will be a good indication
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 08:08 AM
Aug 2022

The DOJ was extremely careful throughout, they weren't just going to raid without very good reason and imminent threats to our security. I also think the DOJ is clever and the unredacted parts of this will be damning to Trump.

Today could very well be the most damaging day for Trump yet.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
6. I agree.
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 08:11 AM
Aug 2022

Also, I believe the DOJ wants to educate the public as much as possible before there are any indictments. Today will likely be one of those teaching moments.

liberalla

(9,266 posts)
8. Yes, I'm looking forward to reading the unredacted portions. They should be very revealing,
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 08:17 AM
Aug 2022

and could be, as you say, quite damaging for drumpf.


NCjack

(10,279 posts)
5. He must be confined to a psychiatric hospital to prevent his suicide. I don't him
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 08:10 AM
Aug 2022

to escape a trial and its degradations and humiliations.

getagrip_already

(14,891 posts)
14. suicide? never. Run? Absolutely!
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 09:08 AM
Aug 2022

He is not self aware enough to commit suicide, and he is far, far, from hitlers bunker moment.

But he would run to another country, if for no other reason than it would keep him in the center of attention. Every media eye would be on that story and it would dominate everything for months.

As soon as he realizes he can control the narrative by running, he will.

getagrip_already

(14,891 posts)
19. hitler was facing a very undisciplined russian army......
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 09:23 AM
Aug 2022

He would have been publicly tortured beyond belief, then killed in a very painful way. There would be no trial. No exile. No prison. No quick execution. Just pain on top of pain.


Trump isn't facing any of that. At worst, he would be the center of a media circus for years and then get some cushy confinement until an eventual gop potus pardons him. The worst thing that would happen to him would be he wouldn't be able to speak publicly very easily.

He can instead have his circus and live in luxury until a pardon and then return.

47. "...until an eventual gop potus pardons him..."
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 10:17 AM
Aug 2022

I think you have described his plan in a nutshell. In 2024 he can offer the support of his "base" in return for a pardon on Day One. He could also threaten to work against a GOP nominee who doesn't make the Big Lie the centerpiece of their campaign.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
67. counterweight: Hitler was a warrior and Trump is a coward. He will do it.
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 09:12 AM
Aug 2022

Now, if I may change the topic. 3 angles can dance on the head of pin.

Texin

(2,599 posts)
41. No. Narcissists never commit suicide. They'll cause others to take their own lives,
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 09:59 AM
Aug 2022

but tRump and others like him will not. I see him a far greater flight risk. He has the means, and his mother was a Scott. He has that golf resort in Scotland (for as long as he can keep it). I won't speak for the government in Scotland, but there is an extradition treaty between the US and the UK, and unless Scotland votes to sever with the UK, that treaty would be enforced should he flee there prior to indictment (if that actually happens).

getagrip_already

(14,891 posts)
42. there are far more likely sanctuaries that don't have absolute extradition with the us....
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 10:04 AM
Aug 2022

Russia, china, and saudi arabia have no extradition treaties.

There are several others with discretionary treaties.

The rat has a lot of holes to flee to.

Texin

(2,599 posts)
45. If I needed to flee, I head to Andorra or Montenegro.
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 10:15 AM
Aug 2022

But tRump is half Scottish. Citizenship is relatively easy for someone who has proof of ancestry through a parent or grandparent. Of course, The UK does honor extraditions to the US from Scotland, and certainly would do so unless Scotland votes to leave the UK.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,811 posts)
10. Depends on how the indictment is worded.
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 08:23 AM
Aug 2022

With words like BETRAYAL to the Constitution which he swore to uphold and defend.

A THREAT to the peace and National Secutity of this country.

The OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE in all things regarding the Rule of Law we all most abide by.

If the indictment of TDFG is worded in such a way that details the crimes he WILLFULLY and KNOWINGLY committed, how in God's name, does any Republican defend him? How does ANYONE else defend him?

Those in the House and Senate who voted twice NOT to impeach or convict TDFG, will have this albatross around their necks. Democrats will use this in every election from now on that they pledged loyalty to a corrupt man at the expense of the ideals of which this country was founded on....the RULE OF LAW.

The Blue Wave has been unleashed.

orthoclad

(2,910 posts)
13. Even if he is convicted,
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 09:07 AM
Aug 2022

picture Amy Corona Barrett et al hearing his final appeal. His greatest feat was packing the Court with Reich-wing radicals.

There's a good chance that his lousy health will express itself before then, though. Stress is damaging.

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,439 posts)
40. Golf! 1:3000 odds of being hit by lightening while playing golf-- keep playing ffg#45!
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 09:59 AM
Aug 2022

Last edited Sun Aug 28, 2022, 04:37 AM - Edit history (1)

..just let nature take care of that 'sirve para nada p$#@#@ p#@$ pendejo #45! Ok...it's 1 in 700,000 actually die yet odds are lower bc ffg seems to play golf 24/7 so odds are in our favor, que no? Right?

The odds of being struck by lightning on a golf course is 1:3,000. The odds of becoming a lightning victim in the US is 1: 700,000. Lightning can kill people or cause cardiac arrest, severe burns, permanent brain damage, memory loss, and personality changes.Jul 6, 2020
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Translation:
sirve para nada: good for nothing; good for nothing SOB or good or nothing piece of shit
..p#$@$# p#@$ pendejo: pendejo: stupid or rather fucking moron. ]

magicarpet

(14,187 posts)
23. Drinking a gallon of gasoline and then smoking a cigarette,...
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 09:29 AM
Aug 2022

.... is supposed to be very healthy and therapeutic.

rainin

(3,011 posts)
17. I read that trump is threatening to attack any republican who runs against him or supports
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 09:16 AM
Aug 2022

another republican opponent. If Trump's candidacy is taken off the table, it only clears the way for DeSantis. I think the in-fighting is really good for democrats.

getagrip_already

(14,891 posts)
21. except desantis is already running.....
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 09:29 AM
Aug 2022

Trips to out of state events supporting republican candidates, in a year when he is running for re-election in a state he only won by 20k votes, is a gauntlet thrown down.

He is doing everything a candidate needs to do be competitive in a gop pres primary. Even the smart money is backing him.

tfg is a sideshow. The gop is nearing a tipping point where they will wish him well, and ignore him. His followers will eventually find a new fire to set.

getagrip_already

(14,891 posts)
32. wouldn't that be a shame? hheheheheh
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 09:46 AM
Aug 2022

Best case is they stay home and don't vote, or find some loonie third party candidate tfg doesn't curse at.

I'm fine with them feeling marginalized and disenfranchised, because they have been absolutely miserable as part of a main stream party.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
51. That's an interesting point...
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 10:38 AM
Aug 2022

The longer he is in the crosshairs, literally the better it is for Democrats.

rainin

(3,011 posts)
58. I predict that once he's indicted, even those who want him out of the race will feign outrage
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 10:47 AM
Aug 2022

in order to try to attack democrats. The Republicans will be united again

getagrip_already

(14,891 posts)
33. via an equally vile third country.......
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 09:49 AM
Aug 2022

trailing secrets as he goes.

And like snowden, he will end up in a completely different prison. Disillusioned, dejected, nd irrelevant.

lindysalsagal

(20,747 posts)
24. I believe the US state dept is using psy-ops on us and the magats by starting all this "smoke"
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 09:32 AM
Aug 2022

about him. That way, when they finally do indict, everyone will be expecting it. They've normalized the idea. The state dept has data on how long it takes to really saturate our society. The fact that it was on cnn is a good sign: That's the higher hanging fruit. Possibly means they're in end-stages of the prep. But that's just my opinion.

Mr. Ected

(9,672 posts)
25. Two schools of thought
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 09:33 AM
Aug 2022

1, indict him immediately, because we the people are getting anxious and afraid that all of this will somehow be swept under the rug (the "same as it ever was" crowd).

2, wait until after the mid-terms so there won't be a post-indictment bump in MAGA voters showing up at the polls, many of whom would have sat it out since Trump himself isn't on the ballot.

And yes, you can compare Trump to any other citizen in the country and scream favoritism, but unlike most ordinary citizens, he has a cult of tens of millions who seemingly do his bidding no matter what. He IS different from us in how we proceed, but not on the application of justice. That must be consistent or the Constitution is nothing but a piece of meaningless paper.

getagrip_already

(14,891 posts)
38. tfg is always on the ballot....
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 09:51 AM
Aug 2022

He has several annoynted candidates - senators, governors, house seats....

I'm not sure if an indictment would help them or hurt them, but my guess is it will give them some fire to spit, mobilizing the base.

It would still be worth it though.

Siwsan

(26,307 posts)
30. I won't hold my breath. The last couple of times I almost passed out.
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 09:43 AM
Aug 2022

So I will just remain watchful.

Evolve Dammit

(16,781 posts)
34. He is not a "sitting President" anymore, even though way too much actual sitting is a problem...
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 09:49 AM
Aug 2022

LOCK HIM UP!

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
35. Well of course I don't believe them, but I tell you, some of his spokesmen have got a defense down
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 09:50 AM
Aug 2022

He benignly thought they were his personal documents. And didn't believe or trust anyone who said otherwise. And something about some law or guideline? That said it was okay for a president to take certain things. Lol

Now I know this is all bullshit, but I can definitely see how some people might think, okay, no biggie, because they're presenting it in such a benign and matter of fact way.

Justice matters.

(6,944 posts)
53. Whether one believes he owns ts/sci documents or not, stealing them and then
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 10:41 AM
Aug 2022
refusing to hand them back when subpoenaed to do so (THEN litigate later to get them back in unsecured premises as long as he wishes to) doesn't make it no biggie.

Rebelling against a lawfully issued subpoena is not a joke. It's Obstruction of Justice, almost an admission of guilt.
 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
37. Well, I read right here on Du that it will all happen on September 22.
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 09:50 AM
Aug 2022

So, there you go. Not much longer.

Desert Dog

(74 posts)
39. Vacation Planning
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 09:56 AM
Aug 2022

He is probably trying to gauge when to flee. He needs an ankle bracelet right quick.

Indictment is either now or wait til mid November. Trump will be whining the whole way until he gets the knock. Is nationwide law enforcement ready? That is probably the big question. While DOJ usually lays low, this is a time for max PR. Magas and independents need to know what their boy has done.

Do we risk the mid terms? Tough question. I believe people have really short political memories. If he was arrested and a suitable case was made in court of public opinion, it could be positive issue for Democrats. Cop a "Justice for everybody!" theme and see where it takes us. You could tie taxes into this. Do you pay your taxes? Why are GOP defending tax criminals? Show photos of our troops and police.. They need our tax income for their health care and to do the job better..

Time is ticking. If the classified documents are a big deal, then make the arrest. Duh. If there is signs he sold them? Throw the book at him.

As long as their 2024 candidate is not Trump, we will have an incredible wedge. It is Trump. If Desantis gets nomination.. We run a write in Trump campaign through red and purple states and we will ride the Nader/Stein train to a Democratic president. Trunts can't quit that clown. It will never be the same with Desantis. He was never on TV for 30 years as rich bossy guy.

Botany

(70,613 posts)
43. I have posted this too many times:
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 10:10 AM
Aug 2022

Trump by just having those documents broke the law big time. Of the 3 American civilians that the
feds have busted for the level of espionage that it looks like Trump might have been at 2 were executed
(the Rosenbergs) and the other is doing 15 life terms in the Fed Super Max Prison in Colorado (FBI agent
Robert Hanssen).

Stuart G

(38,453 posts)
60. K & R....Trump is much.."TOO STUPID TO KNOW THE TRUTH!" .....and...
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 10:48 AM
Aug 2022

This is from the guy who holds a bible for a picture, and doesn't have a clue what is in the "bible".

or a part about the ..."Ten Commandments"...Not even a tiny, weeny, little, clue.

krkaufman

(13,438 posts)
65. Nope
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 11:32 AM
Aug 2022

He doesn’t get that out. He knows the truth; it’s just not convenient or personally profitable.

krkaufman

(13,438 posts)
62. "He has threatened the Attorney General"
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 10:56 AM
Aug 2022

I’m surprised at how little blowback Trump has received for his not-so-subtle threat about his supporters being angry and not-so-coyly asking if there was anything he (Trump) could do to relieve the pressure. As many have said, it echoed mob protection racket mythology… “nice country you have there; be a shame if something happened to it.”

Jay25

(417 posts)
64. He should have been indicted long ago.
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 11:25 AM
Aug 2022

We truly have no idea how much he has compromised America. He removed classified/top-secret documents when he left office (I don't believe for one second that he thought they were his), we really have no idea what else is missing or what America's enemies have access too. There is a reason he surrounded himself with and appointed yes-men to the country's top-level positions. I don't think trump is the bumbling idiot that he portrays, and this may be much, much more detrimental than we know.

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