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Eugene

(67,101 posts)
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 05:11 PM Aug 2022

FBI: Trump mixed top secret docs with magazines, other items

Source: Associated Press

FBI: Trump mixed top secret docs with magazines, other items

By ERIC TUCKER
August 26, 2022

WASHINGTON (AP) — Fourteen of the 15 boxes recovered from former President Donald Trump’s Florida estate early this year contained classified documents, many of them top secret, mixed in with miscellaneous newspapers, magazines and personal correspondence, according to an FBI affidavit released Friday.

No space at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate was authorized for the storage of classified material, according to the court papers, which laid out the FBI’s rationale for searching the property this month, including “probable cause to believe that evidence of obstruction will be found.”

The 32-page affidavit — heavily redacted to protect the safety of witnesses and law enforcement officials and “the integrity of the ongoing investigation” — offers the most detailed description to date of the government records being stored at Mar-a-Lago long after Trump left the White House. It also reveals the gravity of the government’s concerns that the documents were there illegally.

The document makes clear how the haphazard retention of top secret government records, and the apparent failure to safeguard them despite months of entreaties from U.S. officials, has exposed Trump to fresh legal peril just as he lays the groundwork for another potential presidential run in 2024.

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Read more: https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-mar-a-lago-criminal-investigations-government-and-politics-4ee554f467252929f96c70d42a93a05d

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FBI: Trump mixed top secret docs with magazines, other items (Original Post) Eugene Aug 2022 OP
Like Hustler? milestogo Aug 2022 #1
While he may be the slang term for hustler, he seems to be the Juggs Magazine type to me. TheBlackAdder Aug 2022 #7
Maybe the FBI can get some DNA off it Withywindle Aug 2022 #14
They'd just need to test the pages they have to peel apart. TheBlackAdder Aug 2022 #15
Hey, nothing wrong with Juggs. IrishAfricanAmerican Aug 2022 #19
JFC Blue Owl Aug 2022 #2
He wouldn't understand the writing in Golf Digest or Forbes Wednesdays Aug 2022 #8
Kick dalton99a Aug 2022 #3
Shows pre-meditation and that he knew taking the docs was a crime. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #4
Dear gawd, he's planning a library exhibit of all the magazine covers he was on. tanyev Aug 2022 #5
Also why he stole some of the classified docs. To show off and brag about them. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #6
Exactly, that's all he ever cares about Rhiannon12866 Aug 2022 #22
Money, bragging rights, revenge, leverage, blackmail, extortion. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #24
Great summary Rhiannon12866 Aug 2022 #25
His cult followers love him committing crimes and breaking the commandments. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #26
What baffles me are these so called "Christian" groups among his rabid "followers" Rhiannon12866 Aug 2022 #27
Various groups within MAGA: Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #28
Ah, well we know from Mary Trump's book that no one in that family wants to pay taxes Rhiannon12866 Aug 2022 #30
Trump believes anyone who pays taxes, follows the law, serves in the military are suckers and losers Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #31
That's one reason why I have always been appalled that any woman would vote for him Rhiannon12866 Aug 2022 #32
Women have been subjugated by males since humans have been on this planet. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #33
We've fought for equality for over a century Rhiannon12866 Aug 2022 #34
100 years is nothing compared to over a million years of human history. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #35
Libraries had better security than WH secret documents. Nululu Aug 2022 #9
Where Is The Soccer Ball Putin Gave Him?....nt global1 Aug 2022 #12
He said then that he'd give it to Barron, but he probably sold it on ebay Harker Aug 2022 #21
He probably had them in bathroom library next doc03 Aug 2022 #10
Intent? Conspiracy? Obstruction of Justice? purr-rat beauty Aug 2022 #11
He had documents implicating HIM. My bet. Captain Zero Aug 2022 #17
Can't wait to hear who packed those boxes and the finger prints on those papers FloridaBlues Aug 2022 #13
Doesn't surprise me. pandr32 Aug 2022 #16
Were any of the pages stuck together?? IrishAfricanAmerican Aug 2022 #18
With ketchup. iemanja Aug 2022 #29
Like a brat kid hiding a discipline note. alphafemale Aug 2022 #20
He knew where they were. kentuck Aug 2022 #23

Blue Owl

(59,106 posts)
2. JFC
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 05:13 PM
Aug 2022

Yet somehow this is not a surprise at all... Golf Digest, Playboy, Top Secret Spy Intel, Forbes...

Wednesdays

(22,603 posts)
8. He wouldn't understand the writing in Golf Digest or Forbes
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 05:26 PM
Aug 2022

Nor Playboy, even, except for the pictures.

dalton99a

(94,125 posts)
3. Kick
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 05:13 PM
Aug 2022
The affidavit argues a search of Mar-a-Lago was necessary due to the highly sensitive material found in the boxes recovered by the National Archives. Of 184 documents marked classified, 25 were at the top secret level, the affidavit says. Some had special markings suggesting they included information from highly sensitive human sources or the collection of electronic “signals” authorized by a special intelligence court.

Irish_Dem

(81,271 posts)
4. Shows pre-meditation and that he knew taking the docs was a crime.
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 05:15 PM
Aug 2022

Why bother to hide innocent private property?

tanyev

(49,297 posts)
5. Dear gawd, he's planning a library exhibit of all the magazine covers he was on.
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 05:18 PM
Aug 2022

ETA: Sorry, I meant that as a reply to the OP.

Rhiannon12866

(255,532 posts)
22. Exactly, that's all he ever cares about
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 07:55 PM
Aug 2022

Well, that and how much money he can get from grifting off his boasts...

Irish_Dem

(81,271 posts)
24. Money, bragging rights, revenge, leverage, blackmail, extortion.
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 08:38 PM
Aug 2022

Trump is very predicable in his needs, wants, behaviors.

Rhiannon12866

(255,532 posts)
25. Great summary
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 08:42 PM
Aug 2022

How too few gave this any thought in 2016 is a mystery to me, it's not like he was capable of hiding it.

Irish_Dem

(81,271 posts)
26. His cult followers love him committing crimes and breaking the commandments.
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 08:52 PM
Aug 2022

Every time Trump breaks the law they send him more money and he gets more followers.

Rhiannon12866

(255,532 posts)
27. What baffles me are these so called "Christian" groups among his rabid "followers"
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 08:58 PM
Aug 2022

They need to review those Commandments. And as we saw during George H.W. Bush's funeral, TFG has never been in a church and had no clue how to behave. Jimmy Carter was the genuine article, yet they dismissed and despised him.

Irish_Dem

(81,271 posts)
28. Various groups within MAGA:
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 09:22 PM
Aug 2022

Racist, anti-female, anti LGBTQ. They don't care what crimes Trump commits as long as he delivers a white male ruling class.

Then some are the greedy wealthy who don't want to pay any taxes at all and want government corporate handouts.

Others are typical cult members in search of identity and meaning, and want to hate someone and be angry all the time.

Rhiannon12866

(255,532 posts)
30. Ah, well we know from Mary Trump's book that no one in that family wants to pay taxes
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 09:34 PM
Aug 2022

At the beginning of TFG's "presidency," the New York Times published a record long exposé of his years' long tax shenanigans, avoidance and crimes - based on legal records which Mary provided. Why there were no legal repercussions is a mystery to me, should have been a wake up call early on.

And I agree that these groups want to turn back the clock a century or three. They've gone after women's reproductive freedoms - is their vote next? They've had success in implementing voter suppression directed at other "minority groups" in several states as it is.

Irish_Dem

(81,271 posts)
31. Trump believes anyone who pays taxes, follows the law, serves in the military are suckers and losers
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 09:40 PM
Aug 2022

And a lot of voters agree with him.

During the first election, Trump came out and said that no one wants to vote for a person who is stupid enough to pay taxes.

Trump has been a great con man and has used every trick in the book to have no consequences for his crimes.
He is also cunning about getting others to take the fall for him.

Yes Trump promises to deliver a white, christian, male minority rule and that is all most of his followers care about.

Rhiannon12866

(255,532 posts)
32. That's one reason why I have always been appalled that any woman would vote for him
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 09:48 PM
Aug 2022

Yes, he's a con man who believes that no laws apply to him and an unrepentant bigot, but the fact that he denigrates women to such an extreme degree should alarm and repel anyone in this country who's female.

Irish_Dem

(81,271 posts)
33. Women have been subjugated by males since humans have been on this planet.
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 10:06 PM
Aug 2022

Smaller, physically weaker, always pregnant, taking care of children, not high levels of toxic testosterone.

Women were perfect targets. And had to learn to work within the system to preserver their lives and the lives of their offspring.

So the patriarchy is deeply ingrained as a survival strategy.

Rhiannon12866

(255,532 posts)
34. We've fought for equality for over a century
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 10:08 PM
Aug 2022

Why any woman would be willing to turn back the clock is a mystery to me.

Irish_Dem

(81,271 posts)
35. 100 years is nothing compared to over a million years of human history.
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 10:56 PM
Aug 2022

We cannot change DNA hard wiring, or a million years of conditioning, in three generations.

But I hear you. I cannot imagine why women want to go back to how things used to be.

However, younger women don't believe us when we talk about the old days.
What life was like for us, our mothers and grandmothers.

Even here on DU when I recount what it was like for me as a young woman, or what my grandmothers went through, I am told to "get a grip." People simply do not want to believe how life was for women.

Nululu

(1,116 posts)
9. Libraries had better security than WH secret documents.
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 05:26 PM
Aug 2022

Why weren't they at least checked out? Why didn't anyone go looking for them?

I'm guessing many small valuables disappeared from the WH.

Harker

(17,785 posts)
21. He said then that he'd give it to Barron, but he probably sold it on ebay
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 07:54 PM
Aug 2022

after getting it autographed.

purr-rat beauty

(1,257 posts)
11. Intent? Conspiracy? Obstruction of Justice?
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 05:28 PM
Aug 2022

these documents in his hands served no purpose for the better good of this country

All the walls of Mar a Lago should be shredded down now, there could be more hidden inside them.

Captain Zero

(8,905 posts)
17. He had documents implicating HIM. My bet.
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 06:38 PM
Aug 2022

Like Taps and Fisa on other individuals that showed HIM involved with them or communicating and talking to other targets of our counter intelligence.

So we can't be sure our counter intelligence is safe at this point.

He may have even given leads to his own goons to go after our counter intelligence.

He should get the chair.

FloridaBlues

(4,669 posts)
13. Can't wait to hear who packed those boxes and the finger prints on those papers
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 06:04 PM
Aug 2022

Other than trumps finger prints

pandr32

(14,272 posts)
16. Doesn't surprise me.
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 06:31 PM
Aug 2022

'Top Secret' papers have value, but are not as dear to him as anything about him.

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