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Yavin4

(37,182 posts)
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 05:56 PM Aug 2022

My crazy prediction for the 2024 Republican Presidential nominee

Nikki Haley.

I don't think that the midterms will be a definitive win as the Republicans are hoping for. They'll lose the GA and PA senate seats, and the PA loss will be the most interesting. Fetterman is not your typical Democrat and not your typical PA Senator either. PA senators tend to be very middle of the road including Republicans. Fetterman is proudly left of center.

Which shows that the Democratic party, as a whole, is moving more and more away from centrist, neo-liberalism. They're returning to their Social Democratic, FDR roots. One big reason for this is that the Republican party has gotten so insane that moderates will go along with the Democrats as they have no other place to go. You're either in the Trump cult or you're not. There's no middle ground.

Haley represents someone that moderates in both parties can vote for. A return to sanity by the Republican party. Yes, she's very right wing, but the corporate media, and the corporate world in general, is desperate to wring the party away from the Trumpists. They will paint her in the best light possible. She will be presented as a savior of the country from Trump's fascism.

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My crazy prediction for the 2024 Republican Presidential nominee (Original Post) Yavin4 Aug 2022 OP
The Republican voters edhopper Aug 2022 #1
The voters don't matter. Yavin4 Aug 2022 #9
The "big money" edhopper Aug 2022 #22
They care about other things besides tax cuts. Yavin4 Aug 2022 #24
She is revered for sure in RW circles. stevil Aug 2022 #2
Biden is running and is a great president. Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #13
Not revered enough for the GOP to endorse a woman of color, no matter how right-wing she is. Aristus Aug 2022 #18
But the MAGAts dominate Republican primaries. Elessar Zappa Aug 2022 #3
"Haley represents someone that moderates in both parties can vote for." Nice theory, but naw. dameatball Aug 2022 #4
Putin's money is on MTG Mr. Ected Aug 2022 #5
I agree, not because of Putin, but because she's got a bit of that same enough Aug 2022 #8
They will end up with Sarah Palin RainCaster Aug 2022 #6
Disagree OneBlueDotS-Carolina Aug 2022 #7
Moderate Democrats can't vote for Haley. She is just as bat shit crazy as the rest ofthem. Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author WVGal1963 Aug 2022 #11
Democrats do not nor should they vote for any Republican. Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #12
The Republican Party doesn't get to choose the candidate... brooklynite Aug 2022 #14
+1000 nt WarGamer Aug 2022 #23
I'll see your Nikky Haley Mr.Bill Aug 2022 #15
At this point the GQP can nominate anyone they want... IrishAfricanAmerican Aug 2022 #16
FDR was anything but a social democrat. former9thward Aug 2022 #17
Social democracy Yavin4 Aug 2022 #19
Nah. Too "ethnic" for that crowd. BannonsLiver Aug 2022 #20
It's not that crazy... except WarGamer Aug 2022 #21

edhopper

(37,368 posts)
1. The Republican voters
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 06:01 PM
Aug 2022

have abandoned moderates. Unless there is a change over of registered Republicans, she doesn't stand for anything they do.

 

Yavin4

(37,182 posts)
9. The voters don't matter.
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 06:22 PM
Aug 2022

The big money does, and the big money wants to pull the Democrats away from moving to the left of center. They cannot do that with the Trump cult.

edhopper

(37,368 posts)
22. The "big money"
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 09:23 PM
Aug 2022

hasn't stopped the GOP slide into Trumpism. And the "big money" only cares about their tax cuts.

 

Yavin4

(37,182 posts)
24. They care about other things besides tax cuts.
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 11:18 PM
Aug 2022

Things like the rising unionization movement and workers not returning to the office. Trump makes moderation impossible. Haley is the antidote to that.

stevil

(1,541 posts)
2. She is revered for sure in RW circles.
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 06:04 PM
Aug 2022

Would not surprise me if neither Trump, Desantis nor Biden get the nominations (AKA Biden not running).

Aristus

(72,180 posts)
18. Not revered enough for the GOP to endorse a woman of color, no matter how right-wing she is.
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 06:53 PM
Aug 2022

Who knows? When faced with the prospect of supporting a woman of color for the Presidency, Republicans may see her right-wing grandstanding as just a request to join the club. A white, male club, where people of color are used but not taken seriously.

dameatball

(7,669 posts)
4. "Haley represents someone that moderates in both parties can vote for." Nice theory, but naw.
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 06:07 PM
Aug 2022

Moderate Repubs maybe.

enough

(13,759 posts)
8. I agree, not because of Putin, but because she's got a bit of that same
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 06:13 PM
Aug 2022

hypnotic thing Trump has. Think of how many times a day she appears on DU, even though we supposedly think she’s absurd. And completely unconcerned about reality.

RainCaster

(13,710 posts)
6. They will end up with Sarah Palin
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 06:10 PM
Aug 2022

The MAGAs will not rest until someone they like is on the ticket.

OneBlueDotS-Carolina

(1,487 posts)
7. Disagree
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 06:11 PM
Aug 2022

Haley will be torn to shreds in the primary. She's a lightweight, with a bookkeeping degree, job experience working in her Mom's dress shop, compromise Gov of SC, then a trump gig.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
10. Moderate Democrats can't vote for Haley. She is just as bat shit crazy as the rest ofthem.
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 06:30 PM
Aug 2022

You should delete that.

Response to Yavin4 (Original post)

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
14. The Republican Party doesn't get to choose the candidate...
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 06:34 PM
Aug 2022

The registered Republican voters do, and there's no reason to imagine that their looking for "someone that moderates in both parties can vote for".

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
15. I'll see your Nikky Haley
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 06:42 PM
Aug 2022

and raise you a Tucker Carlson. Yes, I think they will be that batshit crazy by then.

IrishAfricanAmerican

(4,471 posts)
16. At this point the GQP can nominate anyone they want...
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 06:46 PM
Aug 2022

for the next few election cycles. They ain't gonna win shit!

You heard it here first.


former9thward

(33,424 posts)
17. FDR was anything but a social democrat.
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 06:50 PM
Aug 2022

He believed in capitalism and saved capitalism from itself.

 

Yavin4

(37,182 posts)
19. Social democracy
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 08:05 PM
Aug 2022
Social democracy is a left-wing[1] political, social, and economic philosophy within socialism[2] that supports political and economic democracy.[3] As a policy regime, it is described by academics as advocating economic and social interventions to promote social justice within the framework of a liberal-democratic polity and a capitalist-oriented mixed economy.



In the United States, the progressive movement, a similar social democratic movement predominantly influenced more by social liberalism than socialism, supported progressive liberals such as Democratic presidents Woodrow Wilson and Franklin D. Roosevelt, whose New Freedom and New Deal programmes adopted many social democratic policies.[227] With the Great Depression, economic interventionism, and nationalizations became more common worldwide and the post-war consensus until the 1970s saw Keynesian social democratic and mixed economy policies put in place, leading to the post-World War II boom


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy

BannonsLiver

(20,593 posts)
20. Nah. Too "ethnic" for that crowd.
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 08:19 PM
Aug 2022

She’s also a woman. Two big strikes in the GOP primary electorate.

WarGamer

(18,613 posts)
21. It's not that crazy... except
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 08:26 PM
Aug 2022

She attacked Trump once, after J6...

Thus... she'll never get past single digit percentage of support.

Think Kristi Noem if you're looking for a sleeper.

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