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Funtatlaguy

(10,862 posts)
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 06:26 PM Aug 2022

We allowed the Murdoch family to ruin America.

When Fox News first came on the air, it was obvious that they would be delivering the same lies and propaganda that Rush Limbaugh and other talkers in right wing radio were doing.
However, they just did it visually with prettier packaging.
They had mostly beautiful blonde women wearing short dresses 👗 delivering the “news” while sitting at see through glass tables.
Former Fox employees and whistleblowers told us what was going on at Fox 🦊.
That they were in the hen house and were determined to tear down legitimate news gathering, punditry, and good journalism of any kind by making advocacy infotainment news the new norm.

America let this happen.
We allowed propaganda and lies to replace real news.
Those who distribute cable channels on different platforms (at least those not owned by the Murdoch’s) should have refused to carry Fox News.
When they didn’t, Fox became this huge THING that actually ate real American legitimate journalism.
And now those chickens are roosting with 6 votes on the SCOTUS and no pushback from most of the both siderism media outlets that are corporately owned and won’t just state the truth.
The real fair and balanced truth is that Rupert Murdoch tried to ruin Australian and British media and now he’s all but accomplished that in America.
And we Americans let it happen.
In broad daylight.

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We allowed the Murdoch family to ruin America. (Original Post) Funtatlaguy Aug 2022 OP
Murdoch is in Putler's pocket. roamer65 Aug 2022 #1
K&R, Murdoch's cartel needs to be sidelined to the tabloid section in EVERY SINGLE CATEGORY ... uponit7771 Aug 2022 #2
Tragically, it happened on Clinton's watch. catbyte Aug 2022 #3
Yes. This was a terrible decision. Funtatlaguy Aug 2022 #10
And here we are just 27 years later. The mentality KPN Aug 2022 #16
Yes, but blogslug Aug 2022 #26
Murdoch was set up by the CIA. DURHAM D Aug 2022 #4
Yup. I know folks who've never, ever changed the channel for years. Brainwashed and rinsed. Joinfortmill Aug 2022 #5
Yep. Nt TeamProg Aug 2022 #6
Freedom of speech & the freedom to be stupid are really dangerous. TeamProg Aug 2022 #7
The origin of our complicity can be seen in the response so.many had to Hillary's warning. jaxexpat Aug 2022 #8
Just curious if you have studied or worked in journalism. ificandream Aug 2022 #9
Yes. I have a communications degree but mostly worked in media ad sales. Funtatlaguy Aug 2022 #11
Nothing will change until we solve the Fox problem. Pepsidog Aug 2022 #12
But, how? Does freedom of speech/media extend to everyone? Even liars? Funtatlaguy Aug 2022 #18
It is the story of our generation and the answers are elusive. It all started going Pepsidog Aug 2022 #44
Conglomeration of media, with the resulting decrease in competition, is a real problem. Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2022 #13
Yes, and the FTC never regulated cable. Reform is so needed. Funtatlaguy Aug 2022 #19
One of the drawbacks of free speech. Elessar Zappa Aug 2022 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author moondust Aug 2022 #15
And... DemUnleashed Aug 2022 #17
It divided our country in no way that any politician or party could. Funtatlaguy Aug 2022 #21
Yes we did, elleng Aug 2022 #20
Who's "we"? Cuz I sure didn't. ananda Aug 2022 #22
We as in our country, we. Many here screamed warnings, to no avail. Funtatlaguy Aug 2022 #27
Who did you scream warnings to? Kaleva Aug 2022 #49
YES, they did! nt Samrob Aug 2022 #23
St. Ronnie Raygun fast-tracked Murdoch's American citizenship OMGWTF Aug 2022 #24
I know three people mountain grammy Aug 2022 #25
Good on you. Wish you worked for the Dem party as a Fox deprogrammer. Funtatlaguy Aug 2022 #28
It was during the Obama presidency mountain grammy Aug 2022 #39
Sorry for your loss. I lost my brother to Fox. Funtatlaguy Aug 2022 #40
It was a perfect storm of shit. calimary Aug 2022 #29
At one time, we had the 7-7-7 ownership rule. Wish we still did. Funtatlaguy Aug 2022 #31
Heck, when I was still working any ownership only involved three properties in any one market. calimary Aug 2022 #33
It wasn't just Murdoch, but definitely the major KPN Aug 2022 #30
Indeed, He has been mimicked by others. Funtatlaguy Aug 2022 #32
The Telecommunications Act sure as shit didn't help. nt Carlitos Brigante Aug 2022 #34
A repub dream signed in 1993... rubbersole Aug 2022 #37
And Bill Clinton signed it much to his later regret. Funtatlaguy Aug 2022 #41
I didn't allow shit. maxsolomon Aug 2022 #35
Please, don't give the Mercer's a pass. herding cats Aug 2022 #36
They ARE just vile. But they don't have the platforms of Murdoch's Funtatlaguy Aug 2022 #42
Speak for yourself Warpy Aug 2022 #38
I'm not referring to anyone on DU. None of us here Funtatlaguy Aug 2022 #43
K & R Duppers Aug 2022 #45
Throw in Mark Burnett GusBob Aug 2022 #46
I've read that Burnett is a Christian Evangelical Authoritarian advocate. Funtatlaguy Aug 2022 #47
He's a fucking asshole GusBob Aug 2022 #48
What were Americans supposed to do about it? betsuni Aug 2022 #50
Corrupt politicians and greedy oligarchs have greatly damaged our country. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #51

uponit7771

(90,302 posts)
2. K&R, Murdoch's cartel needs to be sidelined to the tabloid section in EVERY SINGLE CATEGORY ...
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 06:31 PM
Aug 2022

... I'm talking about FAUX NewZ corp etc too.

I don't care if the M$M claims they have 2 journalist so they should be in WH press briefings regularly ... they shouldn't be.

catbyte

(34,335 posts)
3. Tragically, it happened on Clinton's watch.
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 06:31 PM
Aug 2022
FCC Offers Murdoch a Way Out on Broadcast Ownership Rule

By JUBE SHIVER Jr
May 5, 1995 12 AM PT
TIMES STAFF WRITER
WASHINGTON —

The Federal Communications Commission voted Thursday to allow media mogul Rupert Murdoch to avert a costly restructuring of his television empire if he can show that the current ownership of his eight Fox TV stations is in the public interest.

The unanimous vote capped a controversal 18-month investigation of allegations that Murdoch’s Australia-based media company, News Corp. Ltd., had run afoul of a federal law prohibiting foreign firms from owning more than 25% of a U.S. broadcasting company.

Although the FCC approved Murdoch’s TV station purchases in 1985, FCC General Counsel William Kennard says it wasn’t until a year ago that the agency learned that News Corp. owned 99% of the equity in the stations. The FCC ruled Thursday that the ownership arrangement did indeed violate the law, but invited Murdoch to apply for a waiver--and most of those involved expect the waiver to be granted. The FCC had been sharply divided over how to resolve the issue, with the staff recommending that Murdoch be forced to undertake a costly restructuring to satisfy the law.

An emotional and misty-eyed Murdoch, seated in the standing-room-only audience at the FCC with his wife, daughter and son-in-law, was given 45 days to comply with the law or seek a waiver on the grounds that the ownership arrangement is in the public interest.

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[link:https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1995-05-05-fi-62827-story.html|
Full article]

KPN

(15,636 posts)
16. And here we are just 27 years later. The mentality
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 08:24 PM
Aug 2022

that allowed this to happen took full root under Reagan. “Moderation” and driving principles like triangulation opened the barn doors and let the horses loose. They have never been corralled since.

blogslug

(37,982 posts)
26. Yes, but
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 08:41 PM
Aug 2022

Remember the congressman who got a shady book deal from a Murdoch-owned publishing house during that time?


...Despite Gingrich's earlier denials, it turns out that the new Speaker did indeed meet with Murdoch and his chief lobbyist during the period that Gingrich's $4.5-million advance from HarperCollins was being negotiated. And despite Gingrich's earlier denials, the three men did indeed discuss pending congressional legislation that is crucial to the future of the Murdoch-owned Fox television network. Gingrich finally was pressured into giving up his multimillion-dollar advance, but he still intends to take his share of the royalties the books earn. That means he stands to make millions from one Murdoch company while considering legislation worth billions to another Murdoch company...


https://www.tampabay.com/archive/1995/01/20/it-s-newt-s-book-now/

jaxexpat

(6,803 posts)
8. The origin of our complicity can be seen in the response so.many had to Hillary's warning.
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 08:03 PM
Aug 2022

It was pretty easy to just mock such an outrageous statement. I mean, "vast right wing conspiracy" indeed. Our communal reaction was a kill shot into our own communal head.

My question is, have we really learned to think better? Have we grown past intentional ignorance? Millions of Americans with their heads in their cell phones don't even understand the question.

ificandream

(9,335 posts)
9. Just curious if you have studied or worked in journalism.
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 08:10 PM
Aug 2022

Reason I ask is because as someone who has (me), I've been thinking and saying much of the same thing. (I think the only thing we may disagree on is the corporate factor. I don't think the "real" media is as badly corporate as Fox is.) But yes, Fox has ruined journalism with its continued incredible holier-than-thou. criticism of its competitors (though CNN's recent shift is deserving of slamming) and its no-holds-barred propaganda for right-wing fascists.

Funtatlaguy

(10,862 posts)
18. But, how? Does freedom of speech/media extend to everyone? Even liars?
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 08:26 PM
Aug 2022

Not sure how America puts the toothpaste back into the tube.
It kills me that we allowed an Australian who was basically chased out of Australia and the UK after he ravaged many of their media sources (which still make him billions) for him to live in America and marry an American and then make billions off of Americans while politically brainwashing about 40% or more of our countrymen.

It is THE STORY of our generation.
There would have been no Bush II or Trump without Rupert Murdoch.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
44. It is the story of our generation and the answers are elusive. It all started going
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 11:50 PM
Aug 2022

bad, you are correct, during Bush II term when bare naked lying became acceptable, enabled by Fox. This has been my argument for years but now with social media taking over there may never be an answer. The electorate is so gullible that I fear one smooth talking authoritarian type is closer to power than any progressive. After all Obama and Biden have done for the country and how Rs have so thoroughly ruined the country, that the mid-terms won’t be catastrophic for Rs I don’t understand.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,254 posts)
13. Conglomeration of media, with the resulting decrease in competition, is a real problem.
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 08:20 PM
Aug 2022

The FCC is supposed to work for us; it has worked instead to relieve corporations of regulations every time there was a GOP administration.

Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

DemUnleashed

(633 posts)
17. And...
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 08:25 PM
Aug 2022

And people who don't know how to use their own brain got glued to Fox News!! I swear these people can not think for themselves...all they know how to do, is parrot!!

Funtatlaguy

(10,862 posts)
21. It divided our country in no way that any politician or party could.
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 08:30 PM
Aug 2022

So many families and life long friendships have been broken or severely damaged by Fox.
I know that many of my relationships have changed because of Fox.

Kaleva

(36,250 posts)
49. Who did you scream warnings to?
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 09:37 AM
Aug 2022

How many times did you contact elected officials? How many letters to editors did you write? How many times did you protest in front of a Fox affiliated tv or radio station? One can tell how strongly one feels about an issue by what action or actions they take in responding to it. Cindy Sheehan gave up her friends, marriage and job to fight for what she believed in. Most post on social media and fool themselves into believing they care even though their lack of effort proves they don't.

OMGWTF

(3,942 posts)
24. St. Ronnie Raygun fast-tracked Murdoch's American citizenship
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 08:40 PM
Aug 2022

and then he had his FCC Chairman rescind the Fairness Doctrine which allowed this motherfker to LIE to us and destroy our country.

mountain grammy

(26,598 posts)
25. I know three people
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 08:40 PM
Aug 2022

I convinced to stop being brainwashed and quit fox. All three rejected trump. Only one voted for Hillary, the other 2 left it blank and have since said they regret it. All three not only voted for but also contributed to Biden. One is registered Democrat, 2 are Independent.

Fox is a plague.

Funtatlaguy

(10,862 posts)
28. Good on you. Wish you worked for the Dem party as a Fox deprogrammer.
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 08:51 PM
Aug 2022

How?
Do you have a psych background or did you give then lobotomies?

mountain grammy

(26,598 posts)
39. It was during the Obama presidency
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 09:46 PM
Aug 2022

They're not racists and some of what they heard on Fox made them uncomfortable. The relentless and ever more extreme "Christianity" was also getting to them. I got them hooked on Jon Stewart and Colbert and a few others I listen to and now they suggest stuff for me.

Most foxheads are lost. My sister in law was despondent when Bill O'Rielly left. Now she has Tucker.. sick, sick, sick.

calimary

(81,110 posts)
29. It was a perfect storm of shit.
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 08:59 PM
Aug 2022

Some of us saw the worrying signs.

When Pox Noise and limbaugh started making headway, we had NOTHING to push back with. NOTHING to push back with! NOTHING to provide answers and pushback. NO media vehicles whatsoever! And NO promotion of any sort to muscle that out to the public and keep it pushed forward - and repeated! What were they thinking? Were they even awake?

Funtatlaguy

(10,862 posts)
31. At one time, we had the 7-7-7 ownership rule. Wish we still did.
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 09:06 PM
Aug 2022

No individual or group could own more than 7 tv, 7radio, and 7 newspapers.
Now almost all media outlets are owned by just a handful of companies.

People on the right like to scream 😱 about how they think that most journalists are liberals.
Even if that was true, it’s not the worker bees 🐝 that matter.
It’s the people who sign their paychecks and most corporations are right of center especially when it comes to corporate profits taxation and regulations.

calimary

(81,110 posts)
33. Heck, when I was still working any ownership only involved three properties in any one market.
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 09:10 PM
Aug 2022

So that usually meant an AM/FM combo and a TV station.

Or some other combination of those three. But that was back in the 70s and 80s.

KPN

(15,636 posts)
30. It wasn't just Murdoch, but definitely the major
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 09:04 PM
Aug 2022

contributor to the sale of “fascism” in the name of freedom.

rubbersole

(6,660 posts)
37. A repub dream signed in 1993...
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 09:28 PM
Aug 2022

GATT, NAFTA and the Telecommunications Act were the hope of the movers and shakers in repub circles. The ramifications are shaping America today.

herding cats

(19,558 posts)
36. Please, don't give the Mercer's a pass.
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 09:21 PM
Aug 2022

There are definitely more vile actors at play her than the Murdoch's.

Warpy

(111,142 posts)
38. Speak for yourself
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 09:37 PM
Aug 2022

Nobody fucking consulted me about it. I don't think he consulted many of us about it, except we voted with our common sense to avoid his poison at all costs, and we consistently voted against any politician he or his rotten stable of blow dried bobbleheads seemed to like.

You might have given him your permission, but nobody asked for mine and I'd never have given it if they had.

Funtatlaguy

(10,862 posts)
43. I'm not referring to anyone on DU. None of us here
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 10:39 PM
Aug 2022

Had any part in this.
I’m just saying that WE as a country somehow allowed this to happen or somehow made this happen.
Maybe under our laws and constitution it could not have been prevented.
I only know that Fox News is one of the worst things to happen to America.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
46. Throw in Mark Burnett
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 09:11 AM
Aug 2022

That show catapulted Trump into the living rooms of the idiots who don’t watch Fox

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
48. He's a fucking asshole
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 09:26 AM
Aug 2022

His own wife begged him to denounce Trump, his golden boy

I’d bet those 2 are planning a new TV show as we speak

Maybe that’s what he kept the documents for

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