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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 08:59 AM Aug 2022

FBI: Trump mixed top secret docs with magazines, other items

Last edited Sat Aug 27, 2022, 09:30 PM - Edit history (1)

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-mar-a-lago-criminal-investigations-government-and-politics-4ee554f467252929f96c70d42a93a05d



WASHINGTON (AP) — Fourteen of the 15 boxes recovered from former President Donald Trump’s Florida estate early this year contained classified documents, many of them top secret, mixed in with miscellaneous newspapers, magazines and personal correspondence, according to an FBI affidavit released Friday.

No space at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate was authorized for the storage of classified material, according to the court papers, which laid out the FBI’s rationale for searching the property this month, including “probable cause to believe that evidence of obstruction will be found.”

The 32-page affidavit — heavily redacted to protect the safety of witnesses and law enforcement officials and “the integrity of the ongoing investigation” — offers the most detailed description to date of the government records being stored at Mar-a-Lago long after Trump left the White House. It also reveals the gravity of the government’s concerns that the documents were there illegally.
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FBI: Trump mixed top secret docs with magazines, other items (Original Post) Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2022 OP
It's Trump. There had to pictures GusBob Aug 2022 #1
Exactly. His two biggest motivators $ and ego. Always Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2022 #2
Ego and money. And Television GusBob Aug 2022 #4
Could be. He's probably nixed 2024... So looking Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2022 #8
Don't tell me EnergizedLib Aug 2022 #3
"Melanie!" Kid Berwyn Aug 2022 #5
This is what happens when you don't expect Deminpenn Aug 2022 #6
that AND the fact that TFG stopdiggin Aug 2022 #7
No argument Deminpenn Aug 2022 #11
oh really? Takket Aug 2022 #9
Exactly. Sogo Aug 2022 #10
Like the Red Ryder BB gun ad Deminpenn Aug 2022 #12
If I was a traitor I'd hide it in a safe deposit box on an island somewhere Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2022 #13
It was the perfect place to hide them if... kentuck Aug 2022 #14
So you think he intermingled from the start. I was thinking more like Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2022 #16
He was very secretive in packing the boxes, it was reported. kentuck Aug 2022 #17
Wow! Where'd you hear that? That's explosive K! Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2022 #18
What part? kentuck Aug 2022 #19
How trump packed boxes in WH before leaving Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2022 #21
Never mind... Found it on The Week. How'd I miss this? Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2022 #23
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2022 #15
magazines. Golf Digest? mnmoderatedem Aug 2022 #20
If they had him in cover after his hole in one (bs) Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2022 #22
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
2. Exactly. His two biggest motivators $ and ego. Always
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 09:32 AM
Aug 2022

thought he could do absolutely anything in business then in govt.

This is where he was served very badly by legal counsel in my opinion. He probably told his counsel to fight this document demand. And they actually helped him break the law.

I still think that mixing top secret documents with magazines and pictures adds more credibility to the notion that he was hoarding as HIS stuff vs any secret plan to sell secrets. Although it could be in the back of his mind.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
4. Ego and money. And Television
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 09:39 AM
Aug 2022

I am betting the documents and the articles relate to one another

I read him and that Apprentice guy Burnett are planning a new show, I’d bet all this stuff is script material

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
8. Could be. He's probably nixed 2024... So looking
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 02:51 PM
Aug 2022

at other ways to feed his ego

Wonder what happened to that Apprentice outtake of him being racist

EnergizedLib

(1,889 posts)
3. Don't tell me
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 09:38 AM
Aug 2022

He didn’t know what he was doing or that this was an accident.

Go to jail, do not collect $200, do not pass go.

Kid Berwyn

(14,790 posts)
5. "Melanie!"
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 09:48 AM
Aug 2022

“Did I or did I not tell you to put the Top Secret papers in the banker’s box!?”



“Look at me when I’m talking to you!”

Deminpenn

(15,265 posts)
6. This is what happens when you don't expect
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 10:33 AM
Aug 2022

to have to leave your office. Last second packing, just shoveling stuff into boxes and unorganized chaos.

stopdiggin

(11,238 posts)
7. that AND the fact that TFG
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 11:55 AM
Aug 2022

had a long standing history of casual disdain and disregard for security while in the WH (not only documents, but briefings, organization, apparatus, communication, assets, tech - pretty much the whole schmear)

So, yes - a complete cluster___ in hasty exit. But precipitated by years of flagrant mishandling and blatant disdain ...
(coupled with subordinates that allowed him to break the law every day)

Takket

(21,528 posts)
9. oh really?
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 02:56 PM
Aug 2022

The sounds like something you would do if you were trying to hide what was in the boxes, which goes to intent to commit a crime.

Unless they are going to argue he just pushed everything off a desk into a box!

Sogo

(4,986 posts)
10. Exactly.
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 03:27 PM
Aug 2022

Or, if you want to pass a document off inconspicuously, slide it in-between the pages of a magazine or newspaper....

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
13. If I was a traitor I'd hide it in a safe deposit box on an island somewhere
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 06:50 PM
Aug 2022

BUT he knew ! He had gone through the first batch last year! So if the boxes were similar, he knew there were important documents mixed in with magazines and papers.

kentuck

(111,051 posts)
14. It was the perfect place to hide them if...
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 07:04 PM
Aug 2022

...you were going to mix them with other boxes and move them to Maralago. It was a clever plan - he just got caught.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
16. So you think he intermingled from the start. I was thinking more like
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 07:49 PM
Aug 2022

He knew they were in the after going thru the boxes at the end of 2021. But what matters is that he didn't give them all back! Most flagrant sign of guilt.

kentuck

(111,051 posts)
17. He was very secretive in packing the boxes, it was reported.
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 07:57 PM
Aug 2022

He knew what was in the boxes and he knew what boxes they were in. Otherwise, why would he not accept any help from his most trusted aides?

I think he hoarded all the documents he wanted in his residence bedroom at the White House and he requested that a lock be put on the door. When he was forced to leave, he packed the boxes the way he wanted and intermingled them with all the other boxes. With all the clippings and photos and letters, they all would look nondescript.

Then he moved them to Maralago and we don't know what happened to them once they were there?

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
23. Never mind... Found it on The Week. How'd I miss this?
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 09:39 PM
Aug 2022

It's a critical piece of info! Thanks. Huge!!!

One person familiar with the scramble to pack up Trump's belongings suggested some of the documents Trump piled up in the White House residence may have inadvertently ended up at Mar-a-Lago. But multiple people close to the former president told the Post that "Trump was very secretive about the packing of boxes that were retrieved from Mar-a-Lago last month, and did not let other aides — including some of his most senior advisers — look at them.

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