7/31/2019: Trump spoke with Putin; 8/3/2019: Trump issued a request for a list of top US spies

[Nevilledog]

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Trump has spoken privately with Putin at least 16 times. Here’s what we know about the conversations.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2019/10/04/trump-has-spoken-privately-with-putin-least-times-heres-what-we-know-about-conversations/

No paywall
https://archive.ph/Lm6s8

White House Asks for List of Top Spies During Intelligence Shakeup

https://www.thedailybeast.com/white-house-asks-for-list-of-top-intel-officials-amid-intelligence-shakeup

No paywall
https://archive.ph/ifr8C

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217088564

Captured, Killed or Compromised: C.I.A. Admits to Losing Dozens of Informants

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217088397

Classified Material on Human Intelligence Sources Helped Trigger Alarm

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217088487

[claudette]

1. Dear Lord

Why isn’t this traitor in prison yet?

[Justice matters.]

3. 1- The Office of Legal Counsel.

2- Bill Barr.

3. Fox Entertainment's GQP traitors (not in the Constitution sense).

4. Can't show ts/csi documents to the Defense team. Have to flip lawyer who lied to the FBI.

5. Delay, delay, delay...

[Ocelot II]

2. That was just a coincidence.

Right?

[crickets]

10. Comrade, may I interest you in the purchase of a bridge? nt

[ElementaryPenguin]

4. Lord oh mighty!!

Traitor Trump may actually end up getting himself executed by the government for all his incredibly diabolical bullshit!!

[KS Toronado]

31. We reap what we sow!

He would deserve it and stupid MAGAts would still claim "it's Democrats going after our Lord & Savior"
Who but reQublicOns would promote a meme like this?

[Pantagruel]

5. Need to promote this conjecture hard!

Make it incumbent on T/GOP to refute it. Way past time to put their patriotism under the microscope.

[kacekwl]

51. Jesus H Christmas trees arrest this traitor already.

Get him in a room for as long as it takes and interrogate the shit out of him. You know damn well if he's arrested the other rats will start squeaking or fleeing by the hundreds. Inconvenience the little snowflake with no one to help but his 6th rate lawyers, if he can find one.

[stopdiggin]

85. interesting that conjecture is the word chosen

At this point in time at least, it's the accurate one.

[Corgigal]

6. Sickening.

If our intelligence can link this…

just black site him, and we can all wait to see if any family member report him missing.

[lindysalsagal]

7. It's all so obvious. The FBI should already be able to identify which docs

were the most precious and if they match the lost agents. He should be arrested today. This has to stop.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

8. Lock the traitor tot up NOW!

[Eliot Rosewater]

9. And since FIFTY million Americans will not care at all

We have to do something with us or we are finished

[Kingofalldems]

11. Kick and rec

[spanone]

12. Traitor.

[Sogo]

13. Indictments NOW!!!

[dalton99a]

14. The worst traitor in American history.

[RocRizzo55]

57. 💯

[orangecrush]

15. Everything he touched will be considered compromised

Trump was a jackpot for our enemies.

It's like they hit the fucking powerball.

I am still trying to wrap my head around how someone like this could get near the white house without being exposed first.

[not fooled]

28. David Cay Johnston, early in the 2016 campaign

said in an interview on I think NPR that Trump was known to be mobbed up. He cited specifics. I thought for sure the news media would be all over this, and that the candidacy would end shortly thereafter because, after all, who would support a known mobster for the highest office in the land?

Boy, was I wrong. The media never adequately pursued or reported on Trump's criminal associations. The people who voted for him wouldn't have cared, anyway, and hence the GQPee turned a blind eye because they found a front man the rubes loved who would enact their vile agenda. Disgusting.

My point is that he could and should have been stopped then, if not earlier.

[llmart]

43. There are a lot of gullible, easily manipulated people in our country.

Advertisers and the media know exactly who to target with their programming and ads. It's their job to be able to identify that. The people who voted for him saw exactly what the media wanted them to see. There has always been a subset of voters who vote merely by what they see on the TV or hear in an advertisement. They are lazy voters and citizens. They take no responsibility for educating themselves when it comes time to vote.

The best example of that is how he didn't show up for almost a half-hour and the tv cameras just continued showing the empty podium. Or how he was able to railroad the moderators of the debates with Hillary.

[MagickMuffin]

59. I was made aware of him through Reality TV Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous never a watcher

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But that didn't matter, there were always a way to see commercials and whatnot. So, the first time I ever saw or heard him I immediately was disgusted. He just gave me the creeps!

From his big pr boosts and the attention he was getting, he then "bought" a Beauty Pageant where he spied on teenagers, and made friends with Putin. Then to attract the weirdos he got involved in the World Wrestling Con.

He knew how to build his base. He proved it and improved it during the campaign. Stalking Sec. Clinton on debate stage. Calling on his best friend Putin to hack our government back then by "finding her emails" and no one did anything about it. In fact the head of the FBI also approved of targeting Hillary. Gee whiz Mr Comey, Did you even vet him? Did your department give Putin a handout for our Democracy?

But yeah, look at how successful they are in brainwashing their base has been. Church goers are easily manipulated as well, easy targets, and most are already brainwashed.


ETA: Ugh I forgot to include his Apprentice shows. I never watched anything with him on or in it. Walking Talking Disaster and we're paying the price dearly!

[llmart]

64. I can't disagree with anything you wrote.

I was made aware of him back in the 70's and thought he was a disgusting pos back then. I never watched any of his shows on TV. I knew of them, but I couldn't stomach the idea of even watching him.

[orangecrush]

45. Agree 100%.

[liberalla]

61. Totally agree. We had so much already established information known about him when he

announced, but no one wanted to see it! David Cay Johnston was ringing the bell and no one seemed to care. I couldn't understand it. Backlash to Obama? Anybody but a Democrat? There were SO many warning signs and alarms going off, but, but... Nothing!

[gab13by13]

16. Frank Figliusi said something scary,

it will be hard or maybe impossible to prosecute Trump over the most highly sensitive top secret documents for fear of disclosure. He said it is not impossible to do but would be very hard. Many safeguards would have to be put in place.

DOJ may have to indict Trump on lesser crimes.

[2naSalit]

26. How about...

Lock the fucker up on the lesser charges and while he's silenced, continue to pursue the treason issue because the proof is there and it CAN be done.

[Deep State Witch]

42. Well, plenty of those to go around, too

There's no shortage of things to try him on.

[liberalla]

62. Plenty of lesser crimes to pick from! Start the paperwork NOW!

[elias7]

76. Well THERE'S a flaw in the system - a catch 22

[JoeOtterbein]

17. K n R ! Thanks for posting!

Important stuff!

[70sEraVet]

18. Good Lord, where have we gotten ourselves?

I don't think I want to KNOW how badly he has damaged this country.

[BidenRocks]

19. TFG looked good

By selling us out!
Otherwise he is a laughingstock!
What a fucking slob.

[Johnny2X2X]

20. The penalty for what he's done is death

Not just prison, but the death penalty.

[2naSalit]

24. It most certainly is.

He has gone far beyond merely crossing the bar.

[RocRizzo55]

21. He's a Russian asset.

Time for him to be indicted for TREASON.

[Joinfortmill]

35. He must know he's toast. I see Saudi Arabia in his future... if they take him.

[japple]

40. My thoughts exactly. eom

[dchill]

47. They can come and get him...

...and perhaps take him back with them in numerous satchels.

[BadgerMom]

22. K & R for visibility.

Thanks for posting.

[2naSalit]

23. He was willing to offer up...

Ambassador McFaul too, remember?

[live love laugh]

25. And then Putin invaded the Ukraine.

[Missn-Hitch]

27. Maybe he was giving the spies a special, top secret mission to kill Putin.

Or he sold our country and our agents for some money.

I don't know what to think!! *rolling eyes emoji**red hot rage emoji**noose/gallows emoji*

[SheltieLover]

29. Kicking for visibility

[OMGWTF]

30. The worst American in history appointed 1/3 of SCOTUS

[Joinfortmill]

33. They better tread carefully, 'cause Merrick Garland could give two shits about their status

[intrepidity]

79. Fruit of the Poisened Tree nt

[Joinfortmill]

32. Looks like the death penalty still applies to espionage... He's gonna run.

https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/death-penalty-legislation-espionage-and-other-federal-crimes

'...the Federal sentencing system already contains the two procedural features that were lacking in the State systems struck down in Furman v. Georgia. These procedures are a bifurcated trial, in which the sentencing hearing is held separately from the conviction phase, and the preparation of a presentence report focusing on the particular defendant and the particular crime. In addition, the cruel and unusual punishment clause of the eighth amendment does not, of itself, prohibit Congress from providing the death penalty. Therefore, capital punishment for espionage and other serious Federal crimes is constitutional.'

[crickets]

58. 👆👆

[Duppers]

67. TY for posting this, Jfm.

Yes, definitely, he'll run - private planes to islands to S. American or ?

[burrowowl]

34. Very interesting, very!

[wiggs]

36. Thank you! So few are looking to past descriptions of trump lies, misbehavior, criming,

corruption...while trying to figure out how to describe whatever the current outrage is. There's a whole lifetime of scandal to talk about...that sheds light on current topics such as Mar a Lago.

Is media so click-conscious that it doesn't have time to provide context and depth?

Based on just the few links in the OP it is clear that treachery, greed, corruption, collusion are completely ON BRAND for Trump and family. There are probably hundreds of articles and quotes that would add to this conclusion but that are all but ignored by media outlets. It sometimes takes DUrs such as NDog to reach back into the past and illuminate the present and future...but this doesn't reach the people it needs to reach.

[llmart]

49. There is no way in hell that Jared and Ivanka didn't know what he was up to either.

Those two are guilty as hell, especially Jared. I hope he ends up in prison too.

[czarjak]

37. His first full day on "The Job" was spent at CIA Headquarters. Fun fact.

[orangecrush]

46. Damn.

Thanks.

[msfiddlestix]

63. ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ n/t

[Evolve Dammit]

38. Tip of the iceberg. Iceberder coming, glacial at times but very cold, big and heavy. Crushing.

How many back-channels were established for the Traitor-in-Chief, Liar-in-Chief, Seditonist-in-Chief, and Coup-Attempter-in-Chief? And who set them up. Mr. Parscale needs to have an "interview" along with Mr. Meadows and several other high level staffers who enabled all this shit.

[MerryHolidays]

39. UNBELIEVABLE....nt

[niyad]

72. Nothing unbelievable about it. From David Cay Johnson to numerous posts

here on DU, including the meeting with lavrov, the merde-a-lardo dinner where intel was visible, to his fellating putin, and more, to the documentary "Active Measures", his treachery was known. Just not the full extent (and maybe not even now).

[Hekate]

41. Kick. Rec. Bookmark.

[Quanto Magnus]

44. Russian.... Asset... eom

[andym]

48. Putin to Trump: How's that Bond guy doing for the Brits-- where is he again?

I want to share a martini with him.
Trump: Right now he is located in Red Square in Moscow, so you can probably send some of your guys over to invite him to your villa.
[A few minutes later: Sound of gunfire on Putin's end in the background]
Trump: What was that?
Putin: Nothing, just some celebratory gun firing sounding on my other line. Please get the names of your CIA guys here I want to invite them over for some of the same hospitality I gave Bond.

[docgee]

50. Maybe it's time we got 'involved' in the Ukraine war. nt

[Fritz Walter]

52. Our nation executed the Rosenbergs for similar crimes

From Wikipedia:

(Julius and Ethel) Rosenberg were American citizens who were convicted of spying on behalf of the Soviet Union. The couple were convicted of providing top-secret information about radar, sonar, jet propulsion engines and valuable nuclear weapon designs. Convicted of espionage in 1951, they were executed by the federal government of the United States in 1953 at Sing Sing Correctional Facility in Ossining, New York, becoming the first American civilians to be executed for such charges and the first to receive that penalty during peacetime.
...
For decades many people including the Rosenbergs' sons (Michael and Robert Meeropol) maintained that Julius and Ethel were innocent of spying on their country and were victims of Cold War paranoia. The extent of the Rosenbergs' crimes came to light, however, when the U.S. government declassified information about them after the fall of the Soviet Union. This declassified information included a trove of decoded Soviet cables (code-name: Venona), which detailed Julius's role as a courier and recruiter for the Soviets, and information about Ethel's role as an accessory who helped recruit her brother David into the spy ring and did clerical tasks such as typing up documents that Julius then passed to the Soviets. In 2008, the National Archives of the United States published most of the grand jury testimony related to the prosecution of the Rosenbergs.

Emphasis added.

In MHO, it's just a matter of time before info about Canteloupe Calligula's numerous crimes becomes available, and it will be just as damning -- if not worse -- than what the Rosenbergs were charged with and convicted of.

At the very least, he should be arrested, arraigned and required to stand trial!
---
In the interest of full disclosure, I have family in Taiwan and am very concerned about what he shared with Xi Jinping about that island nation.

[Cha]

53. Putin's Puppet.. like Hillary Told Us.

[Botany]

75. "Hillary Told Us" aka I will die mad

Known Timeline:
1. 7/31/2019: Trump spoke with Putin (NYT)
2. 8/3/2019: Trump issued a request for a list of top US spies (The Daily Beast)
3. 10/5/2021: "CIA Admits to Losing Dozens of Informants". (NYT)
4. 8/26/2022: Documents at MAL Could Compromise Human Intel (NYT) 1/5


BTW in the past 1.5 years Saudi Arabia (MBS) has cleaned up members of the Saudi Royal Family who not loyal to MBS (Mohammed bin Salman)
and in Russia and around the world Russian Oligarchs who were not seen as loyal to Vlad Putin have wound up dead. It looks like Donald Trump might
have sold or passed on US intel onto MBS and Vlad that the took with him when he left the White House.

America has had 3 Americans who were convicted of espionage @ the levels that Trump might be at. And they are:
The Rosenbergs (executed) FBI agent Robert Hanssen (15 life terms in the US Super Max in Colorado)

[Cha]

88. Thank You for this, Botany!

I was thinking about "the Rosenbergs" the other day with DT in mind. As in "they Executed the Rosenbergs didn't they?"

[Botany]

89. "As in they Executed the Rosenbergs didn't they?"

Yes they did. BTW When the Soviet Union fell and the west got to see some of the KGB
stuff the Rosenbergs were pretty damn dirty .... I used to think they were clean too. But
how many people are now dead because of the intel that Donny and Jared gave the Saudis
and the Russians?

BTW Trumps 1/6/21 coup attempt and the selling out of our nation's top secrets I think are just
2 more crimes in a crime wave that started with Trump getting into the race with Russian help.

[Cha]

91. TY for More Background history

on the Rosenbergs.. and the reminder about DT's Failed Coup Attempt.. I've been thinking about that, too.

That Treasonous POS tried to Sell America to the Russians and Saudis. .. and SO SHOCKED WHEN he LOST the Democratic Election.

He thought his Cheating had it in the BAG!

GD Ugly Mob Weasel.

[Botany]

92. A New Report Adds Evidence That Trump Was a Russian Asset

He helped Putin manipulate the U.S. election in 2020, as he did in 2016.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/03/trump-russian-asset-election-intelligence-community-report.html

BTW in the late winter/early spring when US Intel people caught Russia working to help Bernie Sanders
and notified the needed people in congress (they did not trust Trump) Trump did not go after the Russians
he fired the intel people for doing their jobs.

[Cha]

93. Yeah, DT was a GD Russian ASSet in

Plain Fucking Sight.

81 Million People told him to GFY, Shithead!

TY for the link!

[AntiFascist]

54. Based on what we have been shown so far...

the DOJ only seems concerned with the hoarding of documents after Trump left office and the ensuing obstruction of justice. Do they care about what was done while he was president?

[Grins]

55. And Jared Kushner gave secret info to Saudi's

And dozens were arrested.

[skip fox]

56. Extraordinarily useful.

Thanks.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

60. People may have died or been killed due to TFG's stupidity and/or greed

Link to tweet

[LAS14]

65. He requested the list. Did they give it to him? There should be...

... legislation that prohibits ANYONE from obtaining such information without a need-to-know approved by the asset's handler. That includes POTUS. What possible legitimate reason would POTUS have for wanting such info?

[Samrob]

66. Maybe it won't be prison? Maybe the death penalty? This is more and more like treason everyday. n

[KewlKat]

68. THIS INCIDENT HAS ALWAYS BOTHERED ME...what was said?

[https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-has-concealed-details-of-his-face-to-face-encounters-with-putin-from-senior-officials-in-administration/2019/01/12/65f6686c-1434-11e9-b6ad-9cfd62dbb0a8_story.html|

President Trump has gone to extraordinary lengths to conceal details of his conversations with Russian President Vladi­mir Putin, including on at least one occasion taking possession of the notes of his own interpreter and instructing the linguist not to discuss what had transpired with other administration officials, current and former U.S. officials said.

Trump did so after a meeting with Putin in 2017 in Hamburg that was also attended by then-Secretary of State Rex Tillerson. U.S. officials learned of Trump’s actions when a White House adviser and a senior State Department official sought information from the interpreter beyond a readout shared by Tillerson.

The constraints that Trump imposed are part of a broader pattern by the president of shielding his communications with Putin from public scrutiny and preventing even high-ranking officials in his own administration from fully knowing what he has told one of the United States’ main adversaries.

continues -

U.S. officials said there is no detailed record, even in classified files, of Trump’s face-to-face interactions with the Russian leader at five locations over the past two years. Such a gap would be unusual in any presidency, let alone one that Russia sought to install through what U.S. intelligence agencies have described as an unprecedented campaign of election interference.


Where is the interpreter, Marina Gross now?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/translator-trump-putin-calls-b1800544.html

Translator who listened to Trump and Putin’s calls says it was like overhearing ‘friends chatting in a bar’

[intrepidity]

80. Ahem

"Translator who listened to Trump and Putin’s calls says it was like overhearing ‘friends chatting in a bar’"

Like between wiseguys Pauly and Vinny? Listen, with a seasoned ear, to "two friends chatting in a bar," and you'll hear boss-ordered whacks and all sorts of things--all without saying any incriminating words. And sometimes you have to listen to what *isn't* being said.

Ask Michael Cohen, he'll tell you all about it.

[Grasswire2]

84. we are told that translator writes up something called a Mem Con

...a Memo of Conversation and files it with the State Department.

That was done with in-person meetings, such as Helsinki. These should exist in State Dept files unless Pompeo stole them.

But the phone calls appear to not have been memorialized.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

69. Behind... But reading more of this - list of spies was to find new director NOT

A list of informants. Not sure why being put together in a sequence.??

[intrepidity]

81. They are linked by timeframe

Surely tfg didn't ask for a list to give to Putin.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

87. Ok... Guess my only point is that people glancing could think

that spies and the informers are the same people. Could be related, maybe. Definitely telling that in inordinate # of CIA uncovered.

[intrepidity]

90. I understand. I had the same thought upon reading the article.

But the dates *may* shed light.

And tfg being tfg, one eyebrow is perpetually raised.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

94. Wonder if his being averse to reports and presentations was

just a ploy all along to act like he didn't care. Or he sat there daydreaming - what can I do with this document. If he concluded nothing, he never wanted to see the person again

But hauling TS docs all over...bet he blackmailed lots of countries - hey look what we've got on you!!

[Grasswire2]

70. How much of this has Director Wray known? And for how long?

Why has it taken so long to put all this together. and looked past by our premier law enforcement agency?

[intrepidity]

82. And if he's just learning it now, he needs to be fired for incompetence nt

[niyad]

71. Stroke out already, you F'n, murdering, orange TRAITOR**.

[Ferrets are Cool]

73. I do so hope they can prove this in a court of law.

[calimary]

74. I'm looking at trump's face in that first tweet (with Putin)

and he looks a little stressed and unsettled. Putin, on the other hand, sure looks like the cat that just ate the canary.

Wonder which part of the store he gave away that day? If I remember correctly, he and Putin had a private two-hour (I think) meeting behind closed doors for something like two hours, and with nobody else present but their translators. Sneaky fucking SHIT! And Putin had the big orange American sucker right where he wanted him.

Schmuck sold us out. To an avowed long-time adversary.



Hey, you bastard, what'd you get for it (besides 30 pieces of silver)?

[LiberalFighter]

77. It seems Dan Coats needs to be questioned too.

[bluedigger]

78. A blindfold and cigarette in the Rose Garden at dawn.

The final remedy.

[Bev54]

83. So in reading these article one name stood out to me as a deputy at CIA

Sheetal Patel, I was trying to find if she was related at all to Kash Patel and Gina Haskell was so adamant that Kash not be put in at the DOD. The only article I came across is a recent article of a Sheetal Patel who died in the Colorado river in the Grand Canyon in June 2022. I found the names interesting and then find one who "accidentally" washed away while putting her feet in the river, and drowned. There is nothing to say it is the same person or there is any relation but it needled my mind some.

[LAS14]

86. Does anyone know more about the reliability of the Daily Beast story? AND....

... whether or not Trump was given the list? You'd think there'd be rules against disclosing this kind of info to ANYONE without a need to know.