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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDid Trump really ask for a list of our top spies?
If so, was he ever given a list?
If so, what happened to said list?
Can he be charged with intent to obstruct just for asking for such a list, if he did?
Walleye
(31,017 posts)skip fox
(19,357 posts)with a certain profile, presumably to pick a director. I was only afterward realized this could be a list of spies or personnel of interest to our advisories.
Botany
(70,501 posts)Link to tweet
Not only our spies but their contacts too. Some of the documents that Trump stole from the
White House were listed as top secret because they could expose our intel people, their contacts,
and methods too.
And in the past year and half both Putin and Saudi Arabia's "bone saw butcher" MBS have been
cleaning house in their countries and around the world too. Trump and or Kushner might have
passed on secret intel to Vlad and MBS as per who could be threats to them.
https://www.newsweek.com/russian-oligarch-family-dead-spain-1699660
https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2022/07/31/686556/Saudi-Arabia-detains-78-officials-in-new-corruption-case-amid-royal-power-struggle
Samrob
(4,298 posts)Botany
(70,501 posts).... affidavit, how was the search done, and can the court appoint a special person to oversee the handling
of the material the FBI seized @ Merde a Logo because forgetting all the other crimes Trump has zero legal
rights to have those documents. His ass is cooked.
Trump by just having those documents broke the law big time. Of the 3 American civilians that the
feds have busted for the level of espionage that it looks like Trump might have been at 2 were executed
(the Rosenbergs) and the other is doing 15 life terms in the Fed Super Max Prison in Colorado (FBI agent
Robert Hanssen).
He is a flight risk and needs to be in custody ASAP.
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Some of the documents were marked HCS, a category of highly classified government information; others related to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court and material meant not to be shared with foreign nations. The HCS acronym stands for HUMINT Control Systems and refers to the government systems used to protect intelligence gathered from secret human sources, the affidavit says.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/08/26/trump-affidavit-released/
BTW if you click on the Tweet you will see a bunch more "good stuff."
doc03
(35,328 posts)there were all kinds of accusations. He was on cocaine. He had some kind of gay relationship with a journalist.
His wife murdered someone. He never was in the military. I take all of this with a grain of salt unless there is
actual proof.
Saboburns
(2,807 posts)Trump's White House issues an ominous request for a list of top U.S. spies
The request is coming at a time when Donald Trump is looking to install a loyalist as his new intelligence chief.
By BRAD REED
PUBLISHED AUGUST 3, 2019 2:59PM (EDT)
The Trump White House has asked the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) to provide it with a list of top American spies at a time when President Donald Trump is looking to install a loyalist as his new intelligence chief.
The Daily Beast reports that the administration wants the ODNI to deliver an inventory of all its employees at the federal governments top pay scale who have worked there for 90 days or more, although it has not offered an official justification for why it wants the office to do this.
The Daily Beasts sources believe that the most likely explanation for the request is that the White House wants to remove Principal Deputy Director of National Intelligence Sue Gordon from her post. Gordon, who is widely respected on Capitol Hill, is viewed warily by the White House because shes not seen as part of Team MAGA, the report claims.
This disquiet is the latest episode of the presidents long-simmering feud with the Intelligence Community, the Daily Beast adds. During Special Counsel Robert Muellers investigation of Russian meddling in the 2016 election, he often fumed on Twitter about the so-called Deep State. And he even singled out his own officials.
Saboburns
(2,807 posts)White House Asks for List of Top Spies During Intelligence Shakeup
Its unclear what the White House will do with the list. People on it may be eligible to temporarily lead the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
Betsy Swan
Former Political Reporter
Erin Banco
National Security Reporter
Updated Aug. 02, 2019 1:24PM ET / Published Aug. 02, 2019 9:30AM ET
The Trump administration is taking inventory of many of Americas top spies, The Daily Beast has learned. The White House recently asked the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) for a list of all its employees at the federal governments top pay scale who have worked there for 90 days or more, according to two sources familiar with the request.
The request appears to be part of the White Houses search for a temporary director of national intelligencea prospect that raises concerns in some quarters about political influence over the intelligence community.
The request, which specifically asks for people in ODNI at the GS-15 level (the pay grade for most top government employees, including supervisors) or higher, comes as ODNIs leadership faces turmoil. Earlier this week, President Trump tweeted that Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats will step down on Aug. 15, and that he plans to nominate Republican Rep. John Ratcliffe for the post. But Ratcliffe faces a contentious confirmation process thats all but certain to stretch past the 15th, and the White House needs someone to take the DNI role in the meantime.
viva la
(3,289 posts)July 31, 2019 Trump and Putin spoke by phone to discuss wildfires in Siberia and trade between the two nations, according to the White House. The call was first announced by the Russians, and the U.S. statement came hours after the Kremlin released its own account of the call.
Claustrum
(4,845 posts)He is in charge of that. The spies would likely operate to get information that the president wanted or the IC agencies.
I don't think anyone thought that a "president" would give out our secrets to our adversaries.
stopdiggin
(11,301 posts)that is now being inferred.
"The Daily Beasts sources believe that the most likely explanation for the request is that the White House wants to remove Principal Deputy Director of National Intelligence Sue Gordon from her post. Gordon, who is widely respected on Capitol Hill, is viewed warily by the White House because shes not seen as part of Team MAGA, the report claims."
The WH was looking to replace some 'career employees', particularly at higher levels, with Trump loyalists - which happened throughout the executive branch.