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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHillary's emails are back in the news again ... but there's a problem
Thanks to a great call into the Stephanie miller show today, here's a refresher course of what happened
Rep. Cartwright: Those three documents with the little cs on them, were they properly documented? Were they properly marked according to the manual?
Director Comey: No.
Rep. Cartwright: According to the manual, and I ask unanimous consent to enter this into the record, Mr. Chairman. According to the manual, if youre going to classify something, there has to be a header on the document, right?
Director Comey: Correct.
Rep. Cartwright: Was there a header on the three documents that weve discussed today that had the little c in the text someplace?
Director Comey: No, there were three e-mails. The c was in the body in the text, but there was no header on the email or in the text.
Rep. Cartwright: So if Secretary Clinton really were an expert at what's classified and whats not classified and we're following the manual, the absence of a header would tell her immediately that those three documents were not classified. Am I correct in that?
Director Comey: That would be a reasonable inference.
In addition, the State Department spokesperson made clear yesterday that these emails, which discussed call information for the Secretary, included these cs by mistake, and the information was not in fact classified
https://oversight.house.gov/news/press-releases/fbi-director-comey-emails-were-not-properly-marked-as-classified
Brainfodder
(7,781 posts)Brainfodder
(7,781 posts)Chainfire
(17,757 posts)According to the rightwing logic over the emails, Trump should be doing 50 life sentences. But, of course, it is "alternative laws" that the Republicans live under.
oldsoftie
(13,538 posts)Why don't his minions scream for HIS head over that?
SergeStorms
(20,591 posts)but where the hell is the check from Mexico to pay for what little wall Trump actually had constructed?
It's probably "in the mail", according to Trump.
calimary
(90,017 posts)if it arrived at all.
oldsoftie
(13,538 posts)NullTuples
(6,017 posts)Never mind that many of us voluntarily bind ourselves with them in order to maintain a stable society rather than always have to compete for power.
DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)that Trump never bought an NFL team, otherwise he would have snuck into the contract a clause that his team could never be called for ANY penalty, and his kicker(s) were given an automatic 30 yd handicap on all kicks........
Johnny2X2X
(24,207 posts)This is nothing like what Trump is accused of. First and foremost because Hillary was then the SoS and had security clearance.
Moostache
(11,178 posts)Hillary's e-mails?
REALLY?
Hunter's lap-top?
REALLY?
Obama's birth certificate?
REALLY?
Oh, the LONG form one?
REALLY?
All of these things bear one thing in common - they are TOTALLY irrelevant to the question of why was Donald Trump in possession of government documents in violation of the law. The why or who else's or 'whataboutisms' are totally irrelevant (as usual).
So tired of seeing this exact same playbook trotted out time and time and time again. Leaves me feeling like Bill Murray in "Groundhog Day"...anyone got a toaster I can drop in my bath?
AllaN01Bear
(29,486 posts)JHB
(38,213 posts)If you listed out all the vaunted "Clinton scandals" on a single piece of paper and then lined out in red all the ones that were either baseless or puffed-up horseshit, you'd wind up with something that looks like a prop in a slasher/splatter horror movie.
The media is and has always been a department of the GOP.
The so called news is expected to make a profit. We see time and again just how bad our for profit healthcare is
for profit news is 10x worse.
wiggs
(8,812 posts)maxsolomon
(38,715 posts)the GQP uses any tool available to distract.
maxrandb
(17,425 posts)If Democrats submit a legislative proposal that is professionally researched, footnoted, peer reviewed by "experts" and detailed, and Retrumplicans submit a single page proposal in crayon, wrapped in a Donnie Dipshit Depends and served in a dirty ashtray, the media will treat both proposals as if they are rational serious proposals.
If Secretary Clinton had taken just one sheet of TS/SCI material home with her, the media would demand she be hung for treason. If it's a Retrumplican with cases upon cases of TS/SCI material, the story shifts to coverage of how he can get away with it.
calimary
(90,017 posts)so we can shut up any lie-steeped Republican who tries to add this to the conversation.
Good grief, youre STILL trying to beat up on Hillary? THATS all you got? HOW PATHETIC is that? And you know damn well theres NO there there! Its been proven false a long time ago, and over and over again. Whereve you been all this time? Whatd you do? Crawl up inside trumps butt years ago and go to sleep?
progressoid
(53,179 posts)I guarantee that Hannity and his merry band on Fox and AM radio will still be talking about Hillary and deflecting as much as possible from TFG.
Traildogbob
(13,018 posts)And the heads up. Graham and Fox need to be force fed this information and have to listen to every word.
happy feet
(1,278 posts)You'd think the so called liberal media would counter with the facts above when the right makes these false equivalencies. I remembered exactly those numbers as the outcome, yet I've heard so called liberal reporters saying "...unlike Hilary which had a 100 out of 100,000 emails classified" as the reason Trump's offense was worse. Too lazy to look up actual facts so at least I know I wasn't crazy in remembering the 3 improperly marked classified.
DLCWIdem
(1,580 posts)4 documents with 2 being retroactively classified
Bluesaph
(1,026 posts)And my head blows up every time I hear about the hundreds of classified emails Hillary had.
Lazy reporters are contributing to the dumbing down of our country!
happy feet
(1,278 posts)because they understand their job to be stenographer of what "each" side says rather than "going outside and if it's raining - state that the person who said it's raining is telling the truth, the person who said it's sunny is lying".
DLCWIdem
(1,580 posts)Just by saying 3 non classified vs 200 classified top secret compartmentalized.
Keep it short and sweet.
Snackshack
(2,587 posts)Of the news not doing their job. They wanted DT as much as anyone else, they still want him or they would have buried him by now in this document fubar like they did to HRC.
DeeDeeNY
(3,953 posts)TFG stole physical documents belonging to the government and stored them at MAL, where thousands of people pass through. As bad as it is that so many of them were marked as classified, it wouldnt matter if none of them were.
Martin Eden
(15,625 posts)Comparatively, HIS willful and illegal taking of highly classified documents should elicit chants for Immediate Execution!!!
liberalla
(11,089 posts)Martin68
(27,741 posts)the legal difference between the emails and Trump's boxes. There is also the fact that Clinton totally cooperated with the investigation and Trump lied, stone-walled and delayed for 6 months.
ThoughtCriminal
(14,721 posts)Did you get the memo?
Yes, but it turns out these were not TPS reports.
I'm just going to go ahead and send you another copy of the memo.
wiggs
(8,812 posts)vlyons
(10,252 posts)and for how many years now? Of course, Comey could have said all that way back when --
DLCWIdem
(1,580 posts)Is why now this close to the midterms. Well that brings up an excellent comparison between the two situations. The FBI didn't broadcast that they had a search warrant. They went into Maralogo in plain clothes and searched. It was Trump himself who broadcasted it. In contrast, it was Comey who disregarded a FBI established policy and announced the investigation then re-announced the reopening of the investigation just 10 days before the election and interfering and handed Trump the election. She cooperated and complied with her search warrant and handed over all relevant materials while Trump stalled for a year.
onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)Trump should have returned everything when he said he did, and not LIE about it.
DLCWIdem
(1,580 posts)But the FBI is not making an investigation to smear Trump right before the midterms. For one thing he isn't running for office and as I previously stated. The FBI didn't publicize this; Trump did in order to fundraise on it.
onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)Further, she didn't LIE, or INCITE A HEAVILY ARMED VIOLENT MOB to kill the Vice President and Speaker.
triron
(22,240 posts)Not even Rachel? I don't get it.