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Robert Costa's thread on the DoJ filing that just dropped. (Original Post) Grasswire2 Aug 2022 OP
K&R UTUSN Aug 2022 #1
Trump has no right to have special master review seized Mar-a-Lago records, DOJ says Brother Buzz Aug 2022 #2
My recap gratuitous Aug 2022 #3
thank you for this.... bahboo Aug 2022 #5
"Furthermore, this Court lacks jurisdiction..." Ouch. crickets Aug 2022 #6
Well, if anyone had any lingering doubts, this should put them to rest... Hugin Aug 2022 #7
This part is like explaining to a 5-year old that the classroom hamster does not belong to him... Hekate Aug 2022 #9
Thanks -- this is really a thing of beauty, as I read it Hekate Aug 2022 #10
I'm not a lawyer, but the DOJ argument sounds compelling to me. Jim__ Aug 2022 #13
Thank you so much for this clear, excellent summary! Tanuki Aug 2022 #17
Sweet. ismnotwasm Aug 2022 #19
+1, uponit7771 Aug 2022 #22
I love how they essentially point out that Michael Cohen had better lawyers... W_HAMILTON Aug 2022 #4
Yet Michael Cohen Went To Jail SoCalDavidS Aug 2022 #15
Except that's not on Michael Cohen's lawyers. W_HAMILTON Aug 2022 #21
K&R Bayard Aug 2022 #8
Thanks for posting. nt TeamProg Aug 2022 #11
Unfortunately, this Trump appointee judge seems to be bending over backwards for Trump. nt SunSeeker Aug 2022 #12
Shhh....Don't Spoil Everyone's Excitement nt SoCalDavidS Aug 2022 #16
i've wondered about this and they said it orleans Aug 2022 #14
Just another DELAY move by the Trumpians. nt Samrob Aug 2022 #18
Also... 2naSalit Aug 2022 #20

Brother Buzz

(39,900 posts)
2. Trump has no right to have special master review seized Mar-a-Lago records, DOJ says
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 11:56 PM
Aug 2022

That's the talking point.

I would like to read the response in a reader friendly form.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
3. My recap
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 12:08 AM
Aug 2022

If you click on the fuzzy image in the middle of the tweet, you can read a very clear and sharp image of the .pdf from the court file. My stuff will be in italics.

Introduction concludes: "Not only does Plaintiff lack standing to raise these claims at this juncture,
but even if his claims were properly raised, Plaintiff would not be entitled to the relief he seeks."

Summary of Argument

Plaintiff’s motion to appoint a special master, enjoin further review of seized materials,
and require the return of seized items fails for multiple, independent reasons. As an initial
matter, the former President lacks standing to seek judicial relief or oversight as to Presidential
records because those records do not belong to him. The Presidential Records Act makes clear
that “[t]he United States” has “complete ownership, possession, and control” of them. 44
U.S.C. § 2202. Furthermore, this Court lacks jurisdiction to adjudicate Plaintiff’s Fourth
Amendment challenges to the validity of the search warrant and his arguments for returning
or suppressing the materials seized. For those reasons and others, Plaintiff has shown no basis
for the Court to grant injunctive relief. Plaintiff is not likely to succeed on the merits; he will
suffer no injury absent an injunction—let alone an irreparable injury; and the harms to the
government and the public would far outweigh any benefit to Plaintiff.

Even if the Court had jurisdiction to entertain Plaintiff’s claims, appointment of a
special master is unnecessary and would significantly harm important governmental interests,
including national security interests. Appointment of a special master is disfavored in a case
such as this. In any event, the government’s filter team has already completed its work of
segregating any seized materials that are potentially subject to attorney-client privilege, and
the government’s investigative team has already reviewed all of the remaining materials,
including any that are potentially subject to claims of executive privilege. Appointment of a
special master to review materials potentially subject to claims of executive privilege would
be particularly inappropriate because binding Supreme Court precedent forecloses Plaintiff’s
argument that review of these materials by personnel within the Executive Branch raises any
such privilege concerns. Furthermore, appointment of a special master would impede the
government’s ongoing criminal investigation and—if the special master were tasked with
reviewing classified documents—would impede the Intelligence Community from
conducting its ongoing review of the national security risk that improper storage of these
highly sensitive materials may have caused and from identifying measures to rectify or
mitigate any damage that improper storage caused. Lastly, this case does not involve any of
the types of circumstances that have warranted appointment of a special master to review
materials potentially subject to attorney-client privilege.

There follows a lengthy section recapping the proceedings that led to the issuance of the search warrant. Then comes the Argument section. Here are the section headings:

I. Plaintiff Lacks Standing to Seek Judicial Oversight and Related Relief in
Relation to Any Presidential Records Seized from the Premises

II. Plaintiff Is Not Entitled to the Return of Property or to Injunctive Relief
A. Plaintiff Is Not Entitled to the Return of Any Property
B. Plaintiff Is Not Entitled to Injunctive Relief

III. Even if the Former President Had Standing, the Appointment of a Special
Master Would Be Unnecessary and Would Interfere with Legitimate
Government Interests
A. Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 53 Counsels Against Appointment of a
Special Master in Circumstances Such as These
B. Appointment of a Special Master Is Neither Necessary nor Appropriate to Address
Executive Privilege in this Case
1. A former President cannot successfully assert executive privilege against the
Executive Branch in its performance of executive functions.
2. Even if a former President could in some circumstances assert executive
privilege against the Executive Branch, no such assertion would be valid here.
3. Appointment of a special master to review materials for claims of executive
privilege would be inconsistent with principles of equity.
C. This Case Does Not Involve the Search of an Attorney’s Office and the AttorneyClient Privilege Issues Presented Are Not Complex, Voluminous, or Novel
D. The Court Should Not Appoint a Special Master, But if It Does, the Below
Conditions Should Apply

Conclusion
For the foregoing reasons, the Court should deny Plaintiff’s Motion for Judicial
Oversight (D.E. 1) and decline to require the return of seized items, enjoin further review of
seized materials, or appoint a special master.

crickets

(26,168 posts)
6. "Furthermore, this Court lacks jurisdiction..." Ouch.
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 12:24 AM
Aug 2022
A former President cannot successfully assert executive privilege against the
Executive Branch in its performance of executive functions.


Stop pretending you're still president, loser.

The entire page screams, "Idiot. You screwed up. These things did not belong to you then, they don't belong to you now, and they will never belong to you. You are in so much trouble, you have no idea. Stop trying to waste everyone's time. It's not going to work. You are doomed."

So here for it. Thank you, gratuitous!

Hugin

(37,848 posts)
7. Well, if anyone had any lingering doubts, this should put them to rest...
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 12:26 AM
Aug 2022

“ Furthermore, appointment of a special master would impede the government’s ongoing criminal investigation… “



Got that? Criminal investigation.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
9. This part is like explaining to a 5-year old that the classroom hamster does not belong to him...
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 01:01 AM
Aug 2022

… to take home, but belongs to the whole classroom:

As an initial
matter, the former President lacks standing to seek judicial relief or oversight as to Presidential
records because those records do not belong to him. The Presidential Records Act makes clear
that “[t]he United States” has “complete ownership, possession, and control” of them.


Jim__

(15,222 posts)
13. I'm not a lawyer, but the DOJ argument sounds compelling to me.
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 01:12 AM
Aug 2022

It will be interesting to see how the trump appointed judge responds.

W_HAMILTON

(10,333 posts)
4. I love how they essentially point out that Michael Cohen had better lawyers...
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 12:10 AM
Aug 2022

...than Trump does.

W_HAMILTON

(10,333 posts)
21. Except that's not on Michael Cohen's lawyers.
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 12:00 PM
Aug 2022

That's on those too afraid to prosecute Trump for his obvious crimes, even though it looks like the circle is finally closing in for a change...

SunSeeker

(58,283 posts)
12. Unfortunately, this Trump appointee judge seems to be bending over backwards for Trump. nt
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 01:11 AM
Aug 2022

orleans

(36,919 posts)
14. i've wondered about this and they said it
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 01:35 AM
Aug 2022

Even if the Court had jurisdiction to entertain Plaintiff’s claims, appointment of a
special master is unnecessary and would significantly harm important governmental interests,
including national security interests. Appointment of a special master is disfavored in a case

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