OMFG - Asha Rangappa tweet

[orangecrush]

Link to tweet

?t=ODmAYKxV2s2O8Obgc_Wr5g&s=19

[MiHale]

1. Biggest question in my mind is...

Who authorized the removal? He couldn’t just go and take what he wanted. Someone knows.

[kentuck]

8. He fought real hard to get top security clearance for his son-in-law, Jared.

Remember?

[MiHale]

10. Bingo! Thx kentuck.

[Layzeebeaver]

2. Shitty carpet as well.

Just sayin’

[marble falls]

5. Typical hotel, club, restaurant carpeting.

[magicarpet]

9. It looks like the carpet has lots of GOLD colored,..

... threads and fibers. That delights trDUMP and his narcissistic sense of high and luxurious fashion. The Orange Macho Meathead Rambo Messiah probably picked out the carpet all by his self.

[JuJuChen]

3. It can't be overstated how fucked this is.

For reference, "SCI" means "shit you only look at in a vault on government property with an armed guard" and generally refers to highly sensitive intelligence.

[marble falls]

4. How about just posting the photo???? ...

[Hermit-The-Prog]

7. Somebody at DoJ is pissed; note the TIME magazine included -- asshole mixed stuff together.

[Farmer-Rick]

11. Are those porn mags?

Oh no, never mind.

Wow, just amazing how it's so casually scattered around. Trump has more respect for his dirty diapers.

[haele]

17. Cover sheets over all the classified materials - I'm safe to read this.

If those cover sheets or blank pieces of paper were not on the actual documents, just this photo alone on my personal cell phone or laptop could jeopardize my security clearance.
If I was surfing DU on my government laptop during my break, the same photo of the documents found without cover sheets on the actual documents would be considered "spillage" and risk my security clearance.
That's how serious these documents are.

Haele

[orangecrush]

21. Thank you

This is seriously heavy shit.

Your post gives an idea as to how heavy.

[Starfury]

31. He steals hundreds of highly classified documents and stores them in an unsecure location...

...but keeps their cover sheets attached.

Amazing.

[obamanut2012]

40. If I leave up certain records and walk away from my desk, I will be fired

Unless I close and lock my office door and am back within a few minutes (ie just running to pee!). And, I am not handling stuff like this, it's our FERPA protocol.

[Mme. Defarge]

39. Is that tfg in Time cover photo?

In the center near the bottom?

[orangecrush]

48. Looks like it

The ego never sleeps

[kentuck]

6. Those were all in the container in his office closet.

Nearby and easily accessible. All those on the floor are also marked "SCI"...which means they should be compartmentalized, and seen only in a secure location.

[orangecrush]

13. And everything he took

And every agent/program associated with everything he took has to be considered to be in hostile hands.

Compromised.

All of it.

The cost is far beyond any monetary value.

[Farmer-Rick]

14. How do you know they were in a container in his closet?

Why would the FBI stage the documents like that? Why would they then photograph their own staging? Note: the whited out pages. Wouldn't they photograph what was really there?

Just asking cause I think I missed some info.

[orangecrush]

16. I believe

This is part of the affidavit the orange idiot demanded be made public.

The stuff you can see are just cover sheets, not sensitive.

The white ones are redacted.

[VMA131Marine]

55. Not the affidavit, that was pre-search

This was in the document the DOJ submitted to the Federal Judge yesterday in response to TFGs request for a special master.

[orangecrush]

65. Thank you!

[haele]

24. No, they can't photograph the unblocked documents. That's still a security violation.

Which those of us with security clearances know, as it's part of our annual training just to be able to access our own secure information, even if it's a base volleyball team roster and schedule.
(Because that sort of information can tell a spy where a particular person of interest to them is at any one time).

Look, if I were to hang out on "R/military hackers" on my spare time and come across classified material, I'd have to report it - and I would get in trouble for hanging out there without permission or as part of my job. If Security finds out I've been on that site and not reported it, the trouble will include my immediate loss of clearance, eventual termination, and the possibility of jail time.

Classified spillage is f'ing serious, even if the information has already been compromised. Careers can be lost after the fact.

Haele

[Farmer-Rick]

28. Yeah, I know how classified info works

My question is how do we know this is Not what the FBI found (aside from the redaction) How do we know the FBI took out those classified documents from a container in Trump's closet and staged them like this to be photographed?

[VMA131Marine]

56. Because...

The DOJ submitted this to a Federal Judge.

[Farmer-Rick]

59. I appreciate you trying to answer my question. Thanks a lot

I must not be articulating my question well but....

I found the answer. This IS how the FBI found the documents. They were scattered on the floor like trash by Trump. They did not take them out of a container in the closet. Trump left them on the floor.

The photo depicts how Trump left them.

I know this because Trump himself told me. He claims the FBI scattered them on the floor. So, of course they didn't because liar Trump lies like a rug.

"Former president Donald Trump is now accusing FBI agents of staging a photograph taken during the 8 August search of his home and office to “make [him] look bad” and repeating his previous claim to have declassified the entire lot of highly sensitive documents found there." https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-documents-mar-a-lago-evidence-b2156627.html%3famp

[tinrobot]

12. Just one of those in anyone else's house means 5 years in jail.

[orangecrush]

15. All that stuff?

If it were you or me, we'd be at a black site on the receiving end of "advanced interrogation".

[IronLionZion]

18. I'd be fine with him getting advanced interrogation at a black site

send him to GITMO

[orangecrush]

19. I'm not an expert

But a real black site would make you wish you were at GITMO.

[IronLionZion]

20. Yikes

I think the Biden administration are against that type of black site. I just want Trump to squirm uncomfortably for a while.

[orangecrush]

26. Trump presents a difficult problem

In America, we don't jail our political opponents.

I assume they don't want to set that precedent.

I believe he has earned jail time many times over.

They could run him broke with fines and settlements.

But as long as he can open his mouth to incite violence by his cult, he is a threat to democracy.

[FoxNewsSucks]

29. THat's the problem. This isn't "jailing a political opponent"

it is jailing a treasonous criminal. Who happens to be an opponent.

They need to make that distinction clear - the prosecution is for the crime not the political opposition -and move on with the arrests, trials and punishment.

[Evolve Dammit]

35. Exactly

[obamanut2012]

43. This isn't jailing a political opponent

My God.

[orangecrush]

44. I get what you're saying

It is a problem.

We'll see what happens.

[VMA131Marine]

57. We don't jail people for political reasons

But there are lots of politicians who have ended up in jail because they thought they were above the law. If Trump goes to prison for this it will be because he stole classified government documents, hid them, and then obstructed the government’s attempts to recover them. Politics will have nothing to do with it.

[orangecrush]

66. I agree.

But I do wonder if other factors are at play.

[obamanut2012]

42. Reality Winner got four years for one document

[questionseverything]

64. And she was trying to warn us about what the Russians were doing

[NewJeffCT]

22. good comments from Barb McQuade here on the same photo

Link to tweet

?s=20&t=XXuFACV4svGBgFES-Jk6tQ

For those without Twitter:

"When Comey explained why charges were inappropriate for Hillary Clinton, one factor he identified in cases where charges have historically been filed was “vast quantities of material stored in such a way as to support an inference of intentional misconduct.” Kind of like this."

[Gidney N Cloyd]

23. You have to know you're thoroughly screwed when you find numbered exhibit markers on your stuff.

[orangecrush]

27. One would think so

[Tetrachloride]

25. It wasn't just Jared. Dozens had to have known.

[BumRushDaShow]

50. I had posted something a couple weeks ago

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2955755

Officials rejected Jared Kushner for top secret security clearance, but were overruled

Jared Kushner was rejected for a top-secret clearance by two career security specialists, but their supervisor overruled them and approved him, sources say.

Jan. 24, 2019, 8:14 PM EST / Updated Jan. 24, 2019, 10:17 PM EST
By Laura Strickler, Ken Dilanian and Peter Alexander

WASHINGTON — Jared Kushner's application for a top-secret clearance was rejected by two career White House security specialists after an FBI background check raised concerns about potential foreign influence on him — but their supervisor overruled the recommendation and approved the clearance, two sources familiar with the matter told NBC News. The official, Carl Kline, is a former Pentagon employee who was installed as director of the personnel security office in the Executive Office of the President in May 2017.

Kushner's was one of at least 30 cases in which Kline overruled career security experts and approved a top-secret clearance for incoming Trump officials despite unfavorable information, the two sources said. They said the number of rejections that were overruled was unprecedented — it had happened only once in the three years preceding Kline's arrival. The sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the information, said the Trump White House attracted many people with untraditional backgrounds who had complicated financial and personal histories, some of which raised red flags.

Kushner's FBI background check identified questions about his family's business, his foreign contacts, his foreign travel and meetings he had during the campaign, the sources said, declining to be more specific. The White House office only determines eligibility for secret and top-secret clearances. As a very senior official, Kushner was seeking an even higher designation that would grant him access to what is known as "sensitive compartmented information," or SCI. That material makes up the government's most sensitive secrets, including transcripts of intercepted foreign communications, CIA source reporting and other intelligence seemingly important for Kushner, whose job portfolio covers the Mideast and Mexico.

The CIA is the agency that decides whether to grant SCI clearance to senior White House officials after conducting a further background check. After Kline overruled the White House security specialists and recommended Kushner for a top-secret clearance, Kushner's file then went to the CIA for a ruling on SCI. After reviewing the file, CIA officers who make clearance decisions balked, two of the people familiar with the matter said. One called over to the White House security division, wondering how Kushner got even a top-secret clearance, the sources said. Top-secret information is defined as material that would cause "exceptionally grave damage" to national security if disclosed to adversaries.

(snip)

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/officials-rejected-jared-kushner-top-secret-security-clearance-were-overruled-n962221

[Tetrachloride]

52. Good to know. Remember the 30

[BumRushDaShow]

53. And that article came out in 2019

so who knows how many were given "clearance" (in quotes) since that time through to January 2021.

[geardaddy]

30. What an ugly carpet.

[Stuart G]

32. The carpet isn't as ugly as Donald Trump...:sarcasm:

[geardaddy]

36. Ha!

You're right!

[Upthevibe]

33. orangecrush..........

Perfect timing for me.

I'm listening to The Stephanie Miller Show and they were just talking about the boxes and the carpeting..

Thanks for posting.....

[Traildogbob]

34. Just my thought

It’s my understanding the the agents found the box with those docs in it. The layout was to show what was confiscated and WHY they did the search in the first place. The 2A card is identifying the evidence from this one box. This is how they catalog evidence at the crime scene.
Pretty sure they did not find this laying out like that, and are not stupid enough to think we would believe that. That would be more like a Trump crime setup.

[VMA131Marine]

58. And also to show where the documents were recovered

This heads off the argument that they were planted. This is only one photo, we don’t know how many they took, and we can be sure they took a lot more.

[Traildogbob]

60. Right!!!

This was 2A. Hell there could be 1-1A all to 1-Z before they got to 2🥹. But bet ya they go back to the they planted it all Q excuses.

[Justice matters.]

37. Indeed...

So if the FBI could take such a damning picture and redact the compromising ones, Chinese spies walking by also could, without any redactions on them...

Even ZOOM 'em.

And that mofo is still free to incite violence against AMERICANS hundred times a day!!

Wonder how Intelligence departments of foreign ALLIES feel today, mmmm??

[orangecrush]

47. Yup

[akbacchus_BC]

67. I agree with you. Not even the FBI can garner any information if the cockroach

has traded any secrets to hostile countries, since he was in love with Putin, China and North Korea. Wondering what he gave to North Korea for the beautiful letter he received. No ex-president has the right to those documents. Trump should be charged with treason. Fuck him with getting someone to intervene, arrest the piece of shit and short of the kangaroo court re Saddam, lock the cockroach up. Fucker had the audacity to get his stupid supporters to chant ... 'lock her up'. Lock him the fuck up, traitor trump! I dislike this pos with a passion. Hope DOJ pursue his criminal acts and Dems don't back down.

[Mozeltov Cocktail]

38. Totally off the subject...

Are those framed Time magazine covers? And if they are, are they real or are they more of the mocked up ones trump used to hang in his office at Bedminster?

Lindsey Graham should be worried about violence in the streets if trump isn't charged...this traitor can not be allowed to wander free... you know he's made copies of all of this and he still going to sell it to the highest bidder. The republican party is not paying his legal bills for these circumstances.

[orangecrush]

46. Yes, I believe those are Time

With any luck, Trump will get some.

[H2O Man]

41. Recommended.

[orangecrush]

45. Thanks

[H2O Man]

51. I love listening

to her. She is brilliant. Definitely high among the most important voices of our time.

[lindysalsagal]

49. Brilliant tactic: magats don't do words well, but the LIKE pictures.

Now, we need VIDEO!!!!

[BWdem4life]

61. PLANTED!!!,!,1111!

lol

[Pluvious]

54. The GOP Judiciary thinks it's all a joke

Link to tweet

[miyazaki]

63. If there was a dead hooker lying there, they'd say the same.

Magas left the realm of objective reality long ago.

[Deep State Witch]

62. Yep

I recognize those borders.