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It had to be someone with the highest security clearance to be able to see the "Compartmentalized" information.
These are documents that folks have to go into a "SCIF" to read. That is a safe and secure room and the documents are not removed.
Of course, it could have been anyone with the security clearance and access to the documents. Would not the person keeping track of the presidential records document who that person was?
I have a couple of hunches but I have seen no evidence that it is either?
It has been reported that Jared Kushner spent more time looking at classified information than any other person in the Administration. Also, we cannot forget that the CIA did not want him to have a clearance. But, Trump demanded that he get one. They all folded and the "Boss" got what he wanted.
Another person that would have had access to all the documents from all the agencies was the Office of the Director of National Intelligence. (ODNI)
Trump had picked a little known Representative out of Congress to be in charge of all the intelligence. He had little foreign experience but was very loyal, to the point of being a sycophant. His name was John Ratcliffe. He would have to be near the top of the list as the person most likely to deliver the Top Secret documents to Benedict Donald.
Ocelot II
(115,674 posts)That guy had his fingers in everything, and at one point TFG was going to make him acting director of the CIA.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)But this was going on for multiple years in the previous administration
Karadeniz
(22,506 posts)Saboburns
(2,807 posts)Whole lot of traitorous shitheads going to hear about!
The bad shit hasn't been released yet!
The REALLY bad shit hasn't been released yet!
DOJ/FBI tactics and strategy is flawless.
DRIP DRIP DRIP DRIP.
Every week the screws get tightened.
50 Shades Of Blue
(9,975 posts)yankee87
(2,170 posts)Two billion dollar price tag for what Jared stole. The worse espionage case in the country.
localroger
(3,626 posts)The actual security people didn't trust him and didn't want to clear him, but Trump insisted.
2naSalit
(86,536 posts)Xoan
(25,319 posts)Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)Meadowoak
(5,545 posts)He has a factory that makes them.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)sorters, packagers, senders, deliverers, receivers, sorters, filers, pickers, storagers, hand pickers, - lot potential liabilities/flippers out there?
MiHale
(9,715 posts)not who physically carried the documents out
its WHO allowed those papers to be removed and transferred to MAL? Someone looked the other way and forgot to sign those papers back in. This runs deep!
kentuck
(111,079 posts)Trump would carry the documents out of the Oval Office and into the residence. For the first time ever, he had a lock put on his bedroom door, which the Secret Service vehemently disagreed with. He stored the documents in his room, under lock, for a year before he left, and refused to turn them back in. In the final days, Pat Cipollone tried to get him to turn them over to the Archive and Trump refused.
When he was forced out of the White House, he simply mixed the boxes of classified documents with other boxes and shipped them to Mar-a-lago
gab13by13
(21,304 posts)I posted this 3 times now, NARA needs to hire a librarian. When I take out a book I sign it out, if I am late bringing it back I am fined. If I don't bring the book back the librarian knows .
Excellent question Kentuck, how did Trump, physically gain possession of those documents to be able to ship them to Mar-el-Loco? Cipollone surely knew Trump had them also, but surely the National Archives should have known Trump never returned the super secret documents. Trump having those documents for 18 months is beyond comprehension.
I also believe that Trump copied documents, I believe he hasn't returned all of them yet. Should not NARA know this?
Hire a librarian.
WarGamer
(12,436 posts)Teams probably led by Patel and Solomon supervised the packing of said documents. They were able to get the documents OUT of their secure places because Patel had the authority.
kentuck
(111,079 posts)Trump had already put them in boxes and stored them in his locked room. They were already checked out. Cipollone knew about it and tried to get Trump to return the documents and he refused. All they needed to do on moving day was to put the boxes in the van with all the other boxes and go.
WarGamer
(12,436 posts)to the White House and then to MAL?
Is that what you're saying?
kentuck
(111,079 posts)...to the bedroom with the locked door, to storage boxes that he kept in his room until moving day. He hoarded the documents and put them in boxes and refused to return them.
He moved them with all the other boxes to MAL by the GSA.
That is my understanding.