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madaboutharry

(42,036 posts)
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 05:23 PM Aug 2022

Former Intelligence Officer Sue Gordon is on MSNBC with Nicolle Wallace.

She just said that Trump knows so much intelligence that he can basically destroy the whole world.

She has said in a very diplomatic way that Trump has "his own agenda" and all she can do is hope he understands the responsibility of having the information.

Translation by madaboutharry: Trump is insane and we better pray he doesn't blab to our enemies.

Who thinks that horse is already out of the barn?

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Former Intelligence Officer Sue Gordon is on MSNBC with Nicolle Wallace. (Original Post) madaboutharry Aug 2022 OP
he should be locked in the supermax asap moonshinegnomie Aug 2022 #1
Absolutely flashman13 Aug 2022 #22
Out of the barn. elleng Aug 2022 #2
I agree, the worst has already happened. We just don't know it yet. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #16
"It will blow the roof off the house" rubbersole Aug 2022 #30
I am so not ready to listen to that interview. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #33
My worry factor has ratcheted up exponentially Siwsan Aug 2022 #3
Well musclecar6 Aug 2022 #4
That was a good interview. It's scary as hell. JoanofArgh Aug 2022 #5
That interview was hair-raising, absolutely horrifying. n/t Raven Aug 2022 #6
There is no barn anymore. nt sheshe2 Aug 2022 #7
I think Jared is the one to watch central scrutinizer Aug 2022 #8
Jared had top clearance, so he was privy to many secrets. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #17
I hope we hear more from her. JohnnyLib2 Aug 2022 #9
Yes, I hope to see her back Hekate Aug 2022 #15
Listened raptly to her. She scared me. If I interpreted her correctly, she suggested info from allegorical oracle Aug 2022 #10
That horse galloped out of the barn in 2016 Mr. Ected Aug 2022 #11
Right. They elected him, hoping something awful would happen to those they hated. peppertree Aug 2022 #27
You are Rebl2 Aug 2022 #42
That was an amazing interview. spanone Aug 2022 #12
I agreed a great interview. Nicolle is smart as hell. Handler Aug 2022 #40
And they let him talk privately to Putin. Baitball Blogger Aug 2022 #13
Very good interview indeed.... Hekate Aug 2022 #14
As a superpower, the US is humiliated, distrusted and in great danger. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author nevergiveup Aug 2022 #20
We earned it when we allowed tfg to do whatever he wanted housecat Aug 2022 #26
Kicking for visibility SheltieLover Aug 2022 #19
Duty to warn! Cozmo Aug 2022 #21
i think it's quite likely, barbtries Aug 2022 #23
T* isn't smart enough to know which docs to pick, other childfreebychoice Aug 2022 #24
That horse left the barn ages ago, and Trump has no sense of responsibility to anyone. Lonestarblue Aug 2022 #25
Very scary Katinfl Aug 2022 #28
He may have seen secrets but that small mind cannot remember secrets. Thats why he needed ZonkerHarris Aug 2022 #29
Sorry, I missed your thread, gab13by13 Aug 2022 #31
He's already cashed in on some of it. paleotn Aug 2022 #32
I'm going to balk at "knows". Had access to? Sure. Stole secret documents about? Boy Howdy, did he! JHB Aug 2022 #34
Anybody else would already be in a cell, incommunicado (pending a trial). Solly Mack Aug 2022 #35
I know. It's bonkers, isn't it? crickets Aug 2022 #44
voters might want to understand this before voting for imbeciles like trump and most of the samsingh Aug 2022 #36
Why not build a special prison just for TFG? dlk Aug 2022 #37
The man who knew too much. trof Aug 2022 #38
She was excellent with how she diplomatically discussed her role there BumRushDaShow Aug 2022 #39
Kudos to Nicole Wallace for letting Sue Gordon speak colorado_ufo Aug 2022 #41
I totally agree. MSNBC is my go too. I don't understand the flack they get here. Handler Aug 2022 #43
Why is he still living and breathing outside a jail cell?? nt Samrob Aug 2022 #45

flashman13

(2,563 posts)
22. Absolutely
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 07:04 PM
Aug 2022

tRump is clinically insane and a massive danger to the country and the world! As far as the documents go, they are long since compromised.

central scrutinizer

(12,655 posts)
8. I think Jared is the one to watch
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 05:37 PM
Aug 2022

Trump is lazy and stupid. Jared is probably setting Trump up for the fall so he can take over the crime empire.

Irish_Dem

(82,312 posts)
17. Jared had top clearance, so he was privy to many secrets.
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 06:44 PM
Aug 2022

And his constant thought is how to monetize everything.

JohnnyLib2

(11,340 posts)
9. I hope we hear more from her.
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 05:39 PM
Aug 2022

Excellent interview and she has a broad, somewhat unique perspective.

allegorical oracle

(6,584 posts)
10. Listened raptly to her. She scared me. If I interpreted her correctly, she suggested info from
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 05:41 PM
Aug 2022

those purloined documents could be "out there" floating around. Nicolle, at that point reacted with, "You just made the hair on my neck stand up." Am thankful that Biden removed djt from getting ex-Presidential briefings.

Mr. Ected

(9,714 posts)
11. That horse galloped out of the barn in 2016
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 05:42 PM
Aug 2022

Hillary warned us. Anyone paying attention knew.

The right wing trolls didn't care. They wanted someone to "blow it all up". They should have been more specific, because it's granny and Aunt Fae in her stupid red hat that are as much at risk as the rest of us who tried to prevent it all from happening.

peppertree

(23,456 posts)
27. Right. They elected him, hoping something awful would happen to those they hated.
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 07:14 PM
Aug 2022

And it ended up happening to the country we all love (or should).

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
14. Very good interview indeed....
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 06:31 PM
Aug 2022

Hubby came in a bit after it started and when Nicolle would ask a question, he’d say, “She (meaning Sue Gordon) can’t answer that!” to which I’d invariably respond, “She already did — believe me, she did, you just have to read between the lines.”

The entire segment, including afterward with Figliuzzi and Litman, was exceedingly good. If I wasn’t already so informed from reading DU (and linked sources), I’d be swooning on the floor from the shock.

Irish_Dem

(82,312 posts)
18. As a superpower, the US is humiliated, distrusted and in great danger.
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 06:47 PM
Aug 2022

At home and across the world.

Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #18)

barbtries

(31,350 posts)
23. i think it's quite likely,
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 07:04 PM
Aug 2022

yet no one seems to be talking about that. he's got some here, some there, some in his personal desk...why? what would be the reason for that?

childfreebychoice

(476 posts)
24. T* isn't smart enough to know which docs to pick, other
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 07:09 PM
Aug 2022

Than salacious ones like the one he purports to have against macron...so my bet is that not only are we severely compromised, ppl have been killed, but that Flynn assisted in picking documents. Even with seasoned, rock steady pres Biden at the helm, who will trust us.
An aside, betcha intelligence sent some phony info his way, while in wh, just to see where it would end up, same with jared

Lonestarblue

(13,560 posts)
25. That horse left the barn ages ago, and Trump has no sense of responsibility to anyone.
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 07:09 PM
Aug 2022

I believe Trump was most likely leaking top secret information while he was in office. Payment could be made in hidden loans or money in offshore accounts. Trump is a crook at heart, and greedy. He will do anything for money, and having had access to some of the top secrets the US has for well over a year, there is no way he resisted the opportunity to monetize that access. Trump’s casinos were a high-speed laundromat for laundering Russian money. He has lots of contacts.

This will not only cost our intelligence service millions of dollars to change procedures and people because they will not know what Trump has compromised, it may also shut off some sharing of intelligence from other countries for awhile as they deal with their own potential damage—not to mention threatening the lives of people in the field and potentially for ing the dismantling of networks that took decades to build. I doubt we will ever learn the extent of the fallout from Trump’s crimes, but I think it will be very serious.

Katinfl

(884 posts)
28. Very scary
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 07:18 PM
Aug 2022

She said in no uncertain terms that there is absolutely no reason for him to have those documents. None, zero, nada, etc. No good will come from this…….that is certain.

 

ZonkerHarris

(25,577 posts)
29. He may have seen secrets but that small mind cannot remember secrets. Thats why he needed
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 07:20 PM
Aug 2022

to steal the documents

gab13by13

(32,761 posts)
31. Sorry, I missed your thread,
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 07:24 PM
Aug 2022

I double posted and I posted the interview right below your thread.

I encourage people who didn't see the interview to check it out.

JHB

(38,334 posts)
34. I'm going to balk at "knows". Had access to? Sure. Stole secret documents about? Boy Howdy, did he!
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 07:30 PM
Aug 2022

But "knows"? He may remember something something sorta like thatkindathing, but that howler monkey brain of his only retains details on things that highlight how awesome he is! (in his mind).

Solly Mack

(97,265 posts)
35. Anybody else would already be in a cell, incommunicado (pending a trial).
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 07:37 PM
Aug 2022

It makes no sense to allow that grave of a threat to national security to remain free to continue to run his mouth unencumbered, causing the danger he presents to grow.



crickets

(26,168 posts)
44. I know. It's bonkers, isn't it?
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 09:51 PM
Aug 2022

This is why the thought that he can't be touched until after the midterms is so frightening and frustrating. The sooner he's locked up, the better everyone will sleep at night.

Another problem is, there are too many loose ends, too many people involved who helped him steal the documents and who may have helped him stash some of them who knows where. How long will it take the FBI and DOJ to compile evidence for charges against them? Likely way too long to leave tfg free to run around and run his mouth. Can they even find them all?


samsingh

(18,469 posts)
36. voters might want to understand this before voting for imbeciles like trump and most of the
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 07:41 PM
Aug 2022

republican party in the future

dlk

(13,339 posts)
37. Why not build a special prison just for TFG?
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 07:46 PM
Aug 2022

We have the resources and considering the threat, it would be worth every penny!

trof

(54,274 posts)
38. The man who knew too much.
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 07:47 PM
Aug 2022

He is a very dangerous loose cannon.
He needs to be 'sequestered' ASAP.

BumRushDaShow

(172,207 posts)
39. She was excellent with how she diplomatically discussed her role there
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 07:51 PM
Aug 2022

I can't even imagine what those folks had to deal with. You did have people like Bolton who eventually made a public fuss and was "resigned" ( "fired" ) as the NSA.

colorado_ufo

(6,262 posts)
41. Kudos to Nicole Wallace for letting Sue Gordon speak
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 08:06 PM
Aug 2022

without interruption; she also asked terrific questions. It was truly a superb interview, and I was so glad that I had the TV tuned to MSNBC.

Ms. Gordon was extremely professional and guarded in her answers, but even so painted a rather bleak picture.

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