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[Flashmann]

1. debunk this

The small lettering at the very bottom says all you need......

[OneGrassRoot]

2. BTW, freemay20 is new, definitely not a troll...

Just sayin', since there are so many these days.

[GentryDixon]

30. My sister has lurked for years, and joined last week.

She is afraid to post anything until after the election for fear of being beat up just for being new.

[OneGrassRoot]

39. LOL...I don't blame her (or anyone on DU for assuming someone's a troll!)

I just made a suggestion in Meta that there be some sort of "referred by" feature, so those who know people here who can vouch for them can post safely...lol.

It's easy to word things wrong and come across as a troll. I suggested to freemay20 that he always word things from the perspective of an uber skeptical long-time DUer who assumes a new person is a troll.

And when I say new, I mean less than 3000 posts!

[grantcart]

3. .

[OneGrassRoot]

5. No....he's not a troll...

I know him.

[grantcart]

11. So how come he's so in tune with Romney talking points?

[OneGrassRoot]

13. Oy... (edit to add something)

I didn't have time to try to find something short and sweet and to the point to respond to FB friends posting the Romney crap.

A fairly rational person posted that, which really upset me, and I wanted to reply.

I asked freemay20 if he had anything quick to respond with, and he instead posted here, knowing you guys are a wealth of information.

I don't blame people for assuming someone with a low post count is a troll. All I can tell you is that he is not a troll.

It would be great if we had a "referred by" feature, so we could rest assured when someone really isn't a troll.

[grantcart]

21. 'kay

I deleted my reply

I just don't understand why people are so involved with FB.

I find it almost impossible to discuss anyt political stuff outside of DU because its so hard to find people that have enough information to have a sensible conversation.

[OneGrassRoot]

26. I even have a hard time discussing political stuff on DU during these times...

Too much twitter-like posts going on for my taste, and indeed way too many trolls.

I hear you about FB. I have most right-wingers on ignore. But the person who posted the graphic in the OP really surprised me, as I thought she was reality based.

[Archaic]

4. Anyone have anything to prove this factually?

Romney's proven that facts are immaterial. So how would one debunk something that is probably made up in the first place?

[cynatnite]

6. Well, look at who they are crediting with those figures and you've got your answer...

Ernst & Young is a huge accounting firm. Baker Institute is of James Baker (repug) who was in the thick of the repuke economics.

That should be all you require.

on edit: Ernst & Young was an accounting firm for Lehman Brothers. That alone debunks anything that they say.

[lpbk2713]

22. Further ...

Baker worked with Katherine Harris to steal the Y2K selection.

[cynatnite]

27. Thanks. I was thinking he was in 2000 up to his neck. n/t

[lpbk2713]

38. You are certainly welcome.

I still get pissed when I think about that travesty.


Side note: If anyone hasn't seen the movie "Recount" you really ought to check it out.

[grantcart]

7. lol

[Progressive dog]

8. What? go to one of your own sites

If you pay any attention to this crap, which has been continuously debunked on reality based sites, you do not belong here.

[freemay20]

15. Really??

Hey PDOG,, are you the "who belongs here police"? Looking at your post count, you do not have much more experience on here than I do. If you can not be of help, then go play on the porch with the puppies. My question was to hope to get insight from the big dogs. Go yelp and piddle on your leg somewhere else.

[Warren Stupidity]

34. wait you need to slow down or you are not going to survive here.

You posted a romney campaign ad and demanded we prove it wrong. For many new posters here, that would be their last post.

[freemay20]

36. Warren

Thank you for explaining it to me in a civil manner. I was looking for ways to rebuke it. I have seen other things like this being asked by people on here. Once again, thank you for taking the proper approach and explaining it to me.

[Progressive dog]

40. so how come the romney campaign ad?

And the stupid question? BTW you sound like a fire hydrant to me.

[monmouth]

9. "Paid for by Romney for President, Inc."...I'm just sayin', that would debunk it right there..n/t

[tammywammy]

10. What exactly is Romney's tax plan? n/t

[pwb]

12. Just that tax cuts have not helped the economy in the past.

How is that for a fact?.

[freemay20]

18. Thanks PWB

[BlueState]

14. Well no I can't

But Bruce Bartlett was a economic advisor in the Reagan Administration does a good job of it.

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/10/16/1020461/reagan-advisor-taxes-job-growth/?mobile=nc


"Romney’s claim of seven million new jobs from his tax plan, and 12 million new jobs from his policies in total, is also less impressive than it sounds. Both Moody’s Analytics and Macroeconomic Advisors have predicted the economy will create roughly that amount by 2016 no matter who is president."

By the way. Sounds a little like troll bait to me.

[OneGrassRoot]

17. Actually, not troll bait (I know him), but that's a great respond w/ good info!

Thank you!

[freemay20]

20. Thank you very much BlueState

[BlueState]

31. OK If your not a troll

Then I apologize.

[Agnosticsherbet]

16. From Slate Romney's job pledge based on totally bogus math.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2012/10/16/romney_s_12_million_jobs_glenn_kessler_shows_gop_candidate_s_jobs_math_is.html

But, of course, since Romeny has calimed it, it is a lie.

[NMDemDist2]

19. ...

http://www.barackobama.com/truth-team/entry/fact-check-romneys-tax-plan-defense-doesnt-pass-the-arithmetic-test/

http://www.barackobama.com/truth-team/entry/report-romneys-plan-would-cost-nearly-2-million-jobs-in-2013/

[jpak]

23. Why don't take a stab at it

lol

[freemay20]

24. Thanks

Thank you to all the civil people that resonded with help. It is greatly appreciated.

[Warren Stupidity]

25. rmoney doesnt have a tax plan to evaluate.

He cannot specify one single deduction that he would eliminate to offset the enormous tax cut he is handing to billionaires.

He is a hand waving lying scoundrel.

[psychmommy]

28. we dont know romneys secret plan, he needs to prove how

he will create jobs. The jobs report is proving what Pres can do. Give us a plan to debunk.

[Angry Dragon]

29. Willard during the debates said that government does not create jobs

12 million jobs will be created if nothing changes whether Obama or Willard
there was a report that just came out that pointed out that lower taxes do not help but the republicans made them withdraw the findings

[littlemissmartypants]

32. There is a little box in the upper right of the screen that will do searches, OMG!!

Obama’s manufacturing jobs record is currently better than eight of the nine Republican presidential terms.

http://keystoneresearch.org/ManufacturingJobsScore

The Manufacturing Jobs Score: 1949-2012

http://keystoneresearch.org/ManufacturingJobsScore

[wishlist]

33. Over 5 million jobs created in past 24 months unlike 2008/2009

The chart in previous thread of job losses and job creation in Bush years vs Obama yrs should be all a person needs.

[AsahinaKimi]

35. Welcome to DU

DU e yokoso! DU へ よこそ

[ginnyinWI]

37. a supporting argument?

This is not about Romney but Scott Walker, Wisconsin's GOP governor. He has promised to add 250,000 jobs to Wisconsin by the end of 2015, the end of his term. So far his economy has added just a bit less than 10% of those. So goes the usual Republican ideology when actually played out.

http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/promises/walk-o-meter/promise/526/create-250000-new-jobs/