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TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 11:12 AM Sep 2022

Trump's interleaving stolen documents inside magazines and elsewhere is a sign of dementia.

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I had an in-law who was NSA upper level type, and when he got older, he would start to leave the house in his PJs at nght.

He would also take thousands of dollars and squirrel them around the house. Inside book and magazine pages, under the pull-out drawers and on top of the drawer opening so you couldn't see it. Money would be stuffed in trinkets and any nook that could be found. Everything had to be searched before disposing of it.


Chaotic condition of stolen files at Mar-a-Lago will come back to haunt Trump at trial: former prosecutor

According to one former federal prosecutor, Donald Trump's habit of intermixing stolen top secret files with magazine covers and personal items at his Mar-a-Lago resort will be presented as damning evidence at his trial should the DOJ indict him.

Speaking with CNN's Boris Sanchez, ex-federal prosecutor Renato Mariotti stated that the condition in which the files were found will help prosecutors make their case against the former president.

"So you mentioned the folders with the classified markings being among the things that were recovered," host Sanchez prompted. "What did you make of the fact that there were all sorts of random stuff in there, too, The magazines? The gifts? That was unexpected."

https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-mar-a-lago-stolen-files/



Not giving that criminal confidence man a pass, but that fucker has some screws loose somewhere.

Person, man, woman, camera, TV

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Trump's interleaving stolen documents inside magazines and elsewhere is a sign of dementia. (Original Post) TheBlackAdder Sep 2022 OP
Yeah, it's a sign of dementia Farmer-Rick Sep 2022 #1
Thanks. I stink at proofing what comes out and sometimes I'm like, "Where did that come from?" TheBlackAdder Sep 2022 #5
They are picture frames- the one visible contains a time magazine cover Blues Heron Sep 2022 #11
Ohhhhh, I thought it was full magazines Farmer-Rick Sep 2022 #24
Or that he was actively hiding the documents from discovery MerryHolidays Sep 2022 #2
The intermixture doesn't rule out the possibility that things were just throw into boxes Hugh_Lebowski Sep 2022 #9
My MIL has dementia. She lives in her Ilsa Sep 2022 #3
"Here Vlad, take this magazine central scrutinizer Sep 2022 #4
The word "cunning" comes to mind, but so does "deterioration". calimary Sep 2022 #6
To me, it looks like a deliberate attempt to conceal Qutzupalotl Sep 2022 #7
Perhaps, but someone wanting to hide stuff would have a secret drawer or something. TheBlackAdder Sep 2022 #10
A secret drawer, once disclosed, is the first place they'd look. Qutzupalotl Sep 2022 #13
Stealing documents to sell on the black market, no breaks for Donnie. sarcasmo Sep 2022 #8
Yep. I think that's where the missing went. I guess the idiot never heard of a copier or pictures. TheBlackAdder Sep 2022 #12
That's the part you can't dispute: Copies could have been made, rather than handing away originals. lindysalsagal Sep 2022 #23
Good point Farmer-Rick Sep 2022 #25
I wonder if the files would reveal his crimes, so he burnt them. lindysalsagal Sep 2022 #28
It's ALSO a sign of obstruction FakeNoose Sep 2022 #14
His appearance a few times might be a sign. He's let himself be photographed looking like hell. brewens Sep 2022 #15
Perhaps he's trying the Vincent Gigante defense, where he'll start walking around in bathrobes. TheBlackAdder Sep 2022 #17
Dyslexic, now dementia? Is there any mental malady this dipshit does not seem to have? empedocles Sep 2022 #16
He's a con & ignorance has always worked for him. His supporters & Faux excused AnotherMother4Peace Sep 2022 #18
TFG is not well LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2022 #19
That guy next to him ain't looking too good, either. GoCubsGo Sep 2022 #21
He looks like Jabba the Hutt StarryNite Sep 2022 #26
For this thread LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2022 #29
It's also a long-used tactic that lazy, stupid criminals use. GoCubsGo Sep 2022 #20
TFG stored top secrets with clothing. This is not a good sign LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2022 #22
Every day that passes... ultralite001 Sep 2022 #27
I was thinking more of "The Purloined Letter."... But yes, he is also several fries short of... Hekate Sep 2022 #30

Farmer-Rick

(12,786 posts)
1. Yeah, it's a sign of dementia
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 11:18 AM
Sep 2022

But here's the thing. Trump can't read, so why the magazines?

Does anyone else think (aside from that box of perfectly arranged Time magazines in the photo) the
other magazines are really porn?

TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
5. Thanks. I stink at proofing what comes out and sometimes I'm like, "Where did that come from?"
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 11:25 AM
Sep 2022

Blues Heron

(9,035 posts)
11. They are picture frames- the one visible contains a time magazine cover
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 11:34 AM
Sep 2022

It’s not clear what was in the other frames though.

MerryHolidays

(7,715 posts)
2. Or that he was actively hiding the documents from discovery
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 11:20 AM
Sep 2022

That demonstrates intent, not just negligence as he claims (e.g., the stuff was just thrown in boxes at the last minute before he left the White House on January 20, 2021.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
9. The intermixture doesn't rule out the possibility that things were just throw into boxes
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 11:33 AM
Sep 2022

haphazardly at the last minute in Jan. 2021.

You'd need a way to prove that co-mingling happened afterward, or perhaps during the moving out process (like, purposefully putting all the stolen docs under a pile of innocuous stuff like mags so a casual glance into the boxes would make it look copacetic)

Ilsa

(64,577 posts)
3. My MIL has dementia. She lives in her
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 11:23 AM
Sep 2022

basement apartment that I try to keep cleaned up. But she's constantly leaving things where they don't belong. She puts dirty dishes in her closet, drags clean clothes out of drawers and wipes her dirty (even poopy) hands on them, takes photos and documents and leaves then out on tables, by the toilet, etc. It's a real struggle keeping her life together.

calimary

(90,816 posts)
6. The word "cunning" comes to mind, but so does "deterioration".
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 11:28 AM
Sep 2022

I think we have a mixture of both.

TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
10. Perhaps, but someone wanting to hide stuff would have a secret drawer or something.
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 11:34 AM
Sep 2022

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Scattering stuff around increases the probability that someone else would stumble upon it. And once someone sees something in one magazine, they'd know stuff is being hidden all about and that kind of gives up the game.

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Qutzupalotl

(15,857 posts)
13. A secret drawer, once disclosed, is the first place they'd look.
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 11:43 AM
Sep 2022

Hiding within personal effects seems like an attempt to dissuade from further search. At any rate, Trump is not the sharpest tack.

TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
12. Yep. I think that's where the missing went. I guess the idiot never heard of a copier or pictures.
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 11:36 AM
Sep 2022

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If he kept the originals, it wouldn't look like foreign agents took them.

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lindysalsagal

(22,998 posts)
23. That's the part you can't dispute: Copies could have been made, rather than handing away originals.
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 12:56 PM
Sep 2022

He could have made copies and then returned the originals to the archive and avoided all of this nonsense.

That's what makes the senility argument stick around: A sane, but evil gangster would have done a better job of all of it.

Farmer-Rick

(12,786 posts)
25. Good point
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 02:35 PM
Sep 2022

Why didn't he just photograph them in the White House?

This taking them implies he wants to keep the info away from someone too. He doesn't just want to sell the Top Secret info, he doesn't want others to have it or see it in the normal course of the US government business.

It also implies he wanted souvenirs and he felt hard documents may have been more valuable as souvenirs or historical documents for others too.

It wasn't just about selling off America's Top Secrets.

FakeNoose

(42,426 posts)
14. It's ALSO a sign of obstruction
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 11:54 AM
Sep 2022

When we're talking about Chump - what does everyone believe? Dementia or Obstruction?

Hmmm ...

 

brewens

(15,359 posts)
15. His appearance a few times might be a sign. He's let himself be photographed looking like hell.
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 11:57 AM
Sep 2022

We never have seen that from him before except for obvious screwups. Wind incidents with the hair and the bad spray tan lines.

If he does his hair and makeup himself, that is quite a process, I'm sure. He might not be up to it every day now.

TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
17. Perhaps he's trying the Vincent Gigante defense, where he'll start walking around in bathrobes.
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 12:09 PM
Sep 2022

AnotherMother4Peace

(5,192 posts)
18. He's a con & ignorance has always worked for him. His supporters & Faux excused
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 12:11 PM
Sep 2022

his mistakes in office as him being an outsider. He didn't know how the "bureaucracy" worked. That made the fascists love him all the more. He did the same here - leave top secret documents in such a way that he can try to say "Oops - simple mistake, could happen to anyone".

GoCubsGo

(35,000 posts)
21. That guy next to him ain't looking too good, either.
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 12:27 PM
Sep 2022

He looks like Alex Jones, shaved and with a bad, bad toupee.

GoCubsGo

(35,000 posts)
20. It's also a long-used tactic that lazy, stupid criminals use.
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 12:23 PM
Sep 2022

Idiots do this kind of thing when they think they'll pulling something over on someone else. It's becoming more and more obvious that Trump is one of the most stupid criminals in history.

ultralite001

(2,684 posts)
27. Every day that passes...
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 03:15 PM
Sep 2022

is one day further from the truth...

The sooner the RTumpster is held to account, the better...

That is all...

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
30. I was thinking more of "The Purloined Letter."... But yes, he is also several fries short of...
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 03:32 AM
Sep 2022

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