The Slobfather IS a CON MAN. He IS NOT unaware, forgetful, sloppy, have dementia, absentminded,

[AnotherMother4Peace]

careless, unfamiliar with procedures, inattentive, etc. etc. etc. HE IS A CON MAN. A Mobster. It has always worked for him. He more mistakes he made while in office because "he was an outsider", the more his cult loved him. They loved the fact that he was unaware of the ways of DC. They loved the fact that he didn't know how bureaucracy worked. The loved the fact that he was there to "shake things up".

Just yesterday, I actually heard a CNN host say "that the top secret documents were kept in a sloppy manner, kind of like my desk." So much bullshit being slung trying to excuse this CON.

[Irish_Dem]

1. YES. The idiot buffoon act is just an act.

He is a dangerous and ruthless sociopath.

[leftyladyfrommo]

2. I can't help but wonder how much of the stupid

Act was just put on.

[Irish_Dem]

21. Crime spree of the century with a good chance of walking free.

Not a stupid man.

[AnotherMother4Peace]

3. Oh hell yes - He's always innocently unaware & it fucking works(ed) for him.

[GoCubsGo]

7. No, he's an idiot and a buffoon, too.

He has just had people to bail him out all his life. The smart ones no longer want anything to do with him, and now he's left with people who are just as stupid, or more stupid than he is. He and his associates are con men, for sure. But, they're also The Gang Who Couldn't Shoot Straight.

[Irish_Dem]

22. He is not a stupid man, worst crimes in US history and he may walk away free.

That took some smarts.

[GoCubsGo]

35. The "smarts" came from the people with whom he surrounds himself.

The Stephen Millers, Michael Flynns, Bill Barrs, and Allen Weisselbergs. Smart people don't bankrupt casinos--where the house always wins. And, that's just one of multiple businesses he bankrupted. Smart people have no need for "fixers", like Michael Cohen. He had lots of help committing the worst crimes in US history, and as to him walking away "free," I wouldn't place any money on that bet.

[Irish_Dem]

27. Cunning, street smart, very manipulative, dangerous sociopath, successful criminal.

He is poorly educated, not intelligent in the traditional sense.
But a cult leader and successful criminal.

Who else has committed the worst crimes in US history and may walk away a free man?

[gab13by13]

32. Donald Trump may be history's greatest con man,

Donald Trump is not stupid, he is mentally ill.

[Celerity]

15. +10000000000000000

[Jilly_in_VA]

4. I do think

he's teetering on the edge of dementia. As someone in the medical field, I see too many signs. However, a lot of that could be exacerbated by his addiction to Adderall and Sudafed, which has pretty much been documented. It is possible to be all the things you mention and still have dementia. Those are not mutually exclusive. As my mother was fond of saying, "When people lose it, they just get more like themselves."

I'm glad to see others using my same nomenclature for the Slobfather. I don't know where I picked it up but it's so descriptive.

[delisen]

8. Does tethering on dementia matter if one can destroy country?

[AnotherMother4Peace]

10. I'm sure if it will keep him out of jail, he will have dementia. He seems like the same old

CON MAN Donald that he's always been. Yes - the slobfather is a good nomenclature for him, because he fancies himself as a Don in "The Godfather" - he fancies himself as Vito Corleone.

[Irish_Dem]

25. Yes dementia/ stimulant abuse is quite apparent. But we still see the the cunning and street smarts.

Not traditionally intelligent and very poorly educated.
But the cunning sociopathy is there.

[lindysalsagal]

5. The entire GQP knows, it, too. And they back him.

They've deliberately encouraged the GQP voters to be selfish, stupid, lying greedy babies. Now, the whole GQP lives at their mercy.

[Nanuke]

6. Slobfather moniker

I think I first saw this term used with postings from our wonderful Malaise. I also enjoy when Malaise shortens it to Slobby.

[AnotherMother4Peace]

13. Yeah, Slobby likes to throw ketchup on the wall - that's a slob.

[AnotherMother4Peace]

14. Slobby likes to walk into teen girls dressing rooms. Yes he's a slob & a disgusting pig. nt

[malaise]

46. I stole it from DUer Thucythucy

She said it was OK😀😀

[Jughead]

9. Sloppy

Trump apologists…..
A bank robber is caught red handed leaving a bank with a bag full of cash.
Trump apologist- Did you see how messy the bills were? I mean my God the 20s, 10s, 5s and 1s were all mixed together willy nilly.

[H2O Man]

11. Recommended.

I agree that he is the very definition of a con man. Indeed, he is a perfect example of a sub-group correctly known as sociopaths. My three 2020 interviews posted on DU with Dr. Bandy Lee evidenced that.

[AnotherMother4Peace]

23. Thank you H20 Man - your interviews are enlightening, as well as frightening to know

that there are such people (monsters) that walk amongst us.

I read and watch documentaries about cults frequently. trump is very much like Charlie Manson, Jim Jones, Marshall Applewhite, Sun Myung Moon, etc. - And they had people murdering for them, committing crimes, going bankrupt, and committing suicide for their cult leaders.

I hope you don't mind that I post links to your interviews. I didn't see a link for the 3rd interview.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213009498

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213364513

[H2O Man]

31. I'm honored

that you did!

[NJCher]

34. I never saw these!

This is an area in which I'm very interested (criminal psychology); I'm so glad you posted them!

Fun reading for me this afternoon!

[delisen]

12. Downfall of Democrats is Intellectual Pride

Some conmen believe the smarter a person thinks they are, the easier they are to con.

I agree with your statement.

[RockRaven]

16. He violates rules/laws/norms on principle. Doing so is an assertion of dominance.

He has a long track record of behaving thusly, going back decades. He lies to you even when he knows that you know he's lying. Especially then. He gets off on it.

[AnotherMother4Peace]

17. OMG Is "slobfather" going to be his new defense? "Everyone knows I'm lazy w/low standards".

[maxsolomon]

18. He's a Sociopath AND an Ignoramus.

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He's also cunning, but to a degree. It's a defining trait of Authoritarian personalities.

We just watched a 2020 Prime doc on his psychology. It was made pre-election. Near the end, a doc who looks like Wilford Brimley says "Donald Trump can't THINK. He reacts; he attacks. That's why he's unfit".

It makes you think we really dodged a bullet in 2022. If he'd been smart he'd have had a better plan.

[Trueblue Texan]

38. The bullet(s) are still richochetting wildly about...

TFG is the bullet, but I think Putin pulled the trigger.

[dalton99a]

19. Commingling stolen property is an old trick

[AnotherMother4Peace]

24. Yes - dump knows that, Russian spies know that, Saudi spies know that, Chinese spies know that. nt

[PJMcK]

20. In re: the CNN host's comment

Hey, talking head at CNN!

If you don't know the difference between a former president and yourself, your'e an idiot.

If you don't know the difference between the Top Secret documents squirreled away at Mar-a-Lago and the old newspapers, coffee cups and memos on your desk, you're an idiot.

If you don't understand that you are insignificant compared to a former (and possibly future) president, you're an idiot.

How in the world did you get your job?

[AnotherMother4Peace]

26. The "host" was a woman subbing for Kate Bolduan, & I didn't get her name. It was an idiotic

statement on her part.

[Cozmo]

28. What did you expect from cnn? This network has declared themselves the enemy, just like fox news

[AnotherMother4Peace]

30. I expect a more from CNN. Faux news is a propaganda station. I hope CNN is not a declared enemy. nt

[Maggiemayhem]

40. CNN has been taken over by a new management.

Just Google. They are losing viewers as fast as they are firing anchors.

[AnotherMother4Peace]

44. No, they're not "losing viewers as fast as they are firing anchors". Do you have a link for this?

CNN has fired someone I respected very much: John Harwood. He was a truth teller and very intelligent and professional. He was fired, it seemed suddenly, after truth telling about donald. CNN also fired Brian Stelter. I doubt the coincidence of these firings, considering CNN Chairman & CEO Chris Licht & CNN Board Member right wing billionaire John Malone are making no secrets about changes they would like to make.

CNN & MSNBC are still my go-to TV news sources. It does frighten me that powerful/rich people may be worming their way into another news source.

[GuppyGal]

43. People like to cherry pick one segment out of a 24hr day to illustrate their 'point' or

rather their attack on CNN. I watch CNN a lot and I see no 'hard turn to the right' .......yet. But if I do I'll be the first one to strike out against them.

[AnotherMother4Peace]

47. I totally agree with you. CNN & MSNBC are my go-to news source. (See my post right above

this one.) While that statement by the guest host did irk me, I feel that I opened the door to CNN slammers, and I feel a little like a "fake news" trumpster. Sometimes it doesn't take much to open the door for the "fake news" crowd.

[GuppyGal]

51. I also don't think

folks are really being objective....which I do try to do.

[AnotherMother4Peace]

52. You're my kind of (Guppy)Gal. I like your attitude. Sometimes it's difficult to stay objective, but

I try.

[PJMcK]

42. Thanks for the info

Nonetheless, the gender of the talking head isn't important and I don't think my post recognized any gender. That she made the statement broadcasts her stupidity.

I don't care about ones gender identification. Call yourself anything you want because it doesn't affect me except that now I know how you want to be addressed; it's not that hard to do! But I truly hate ignorance and stupidity.

[AnotherMother4Peace]

48. What!?!?

[PJMcK]

56. Goodness. What do you mean?

I had no ides that the talking head was a woman and my post didn't reflect any gender consciousness.

What are you confused about?

[Evolve Dammit]

29. Like overdue library books?? He is making a mockery of our justice system and s far, it has worked.

His whole life actually. Kushner's Dad did some time. I doubt Donny will ever see the inside of a cell.

[AnotherMother4Peace]

33. That leaves me speechless. "Like overdue library books!?!!" Outraged & speechless - LOCK HIM UP!

[Evolve Dammit]

53. That was his attorney that stated that

[AnotherMother4Peace]

54. Yes, I know. I'm sure this is his sentiment - I still say LOCK HIM UP. nt

[Evolve Dammit]

55. Classified docs in a desk with his passports. Hmmm. And the empty folders. Sold? Door prizes?

[Trueblue Texan]

36. I saw that too...

But I believe I saw it on Alex Wagner Tonight show. I thought it was interesting she introduced him as "pretty much an expert on..." I thought that was unprofessional of her, but maybe she had a good reason for introducing him that way.

[cksmithy]

37. I have always

thought he knows/knew what he is doing. That is why he tweaks his story in a day or two, always changing his story, so you can't have straight fact based conversation with him. Whenever I first heard of him many years ago, I thought he was a jerk. He keeps doing the same thing, lie and obfuscate, and it gets him out of trouble. God, I hope his technique does not work this time and he finally pays.

[AnotherMother4Peace]

39. Exactly. If he gets questioned or called out on his BS, he'll repeat what he said but will change a

word/phrase, add or delete a word/phrase. Sounds just like what he said but totally different. He's a slimy little psychopath. He's also expert at changing/manipulating the narrative towards who he says is the "real enemy", and what the "real enemy" is doing. Oh, he is a bullshit artist at its finest (or worst).

AND welcome to DU

[electric_blue68]

57. Thanks to both of you for this! ...

I've never paid such strict attention to this not so little detail! 😮


I don't remember whether he's a sociopath (made through circumstances) or, a psychopath (biological).

Maybe he's both!

The sociopath boosting the psychopathy?



Maybe a mix of some smarts (ie as pointed out) cunning plus a lot of helpers, and enablers.
😔

Like (early on) Roy Cohen! 😧🤬

[Martin68]

41. Yes, Dump is an accomplished con man. But he also suffers from some fairly severe

learning disabilities (dyslexia?), difficulty in concentrating on things he is not interested in, and just plain ignorance of the law. His success is based on his perfection of a few well-chosen and rehearsed strategies that don't depend on memory, such as extreme hyperbole, seemingly bottomless self-confidence, issuing commands to subordinates in veiled terms and seldom leaving a paper trail, surrounding himself with unquestioning flunkies (which can be both a blessing and a curse), and aggressive attacks in the media and in court. Some of his success is duet to smart crooks who support him and use him towards their own ends.

[cksmithy]

45. A friend, who was

a Dr. of Psychology, once told me you don't' have to be smart to be a manipulator. Yes, he demonstrates learning disabilities, but he has learned how to get around them. His flunkies help by enabling him, but I think it has always been his desire for money and power that motivates his every move. He has no empathy.

[Martin68]

58. Right on the money. A psychopathic narcissist can overcome any potential disability by virtue of

their total lack of empathy, conscience...even fear. They see through people, particularly phonies like them, so easily they can mold them like putty in their hands.

[LAS14]

49. Do you think he endorsed idiots like Hershel Walker, etc., so he could keep the...

... lie of stolen elections alive? It would sort of collapse if the Repugs won critical races, right?

[hunter]

50. He can be all those things. Ronald Reagan was always a nasty incurious tool.

Dementia didn't make him any less dangerous.

The great mistake of the Republican Party Masters was their belief that they could control Trump, just as they controlled Reagan, Bush I, and Bush II.

Trump is clearly a dangerous sociopath who needs to be locked away somewhere. That doesn't exclude other issues.

[Rhiannon12866]

59. The relevant classified documents were found in boxes, closets and drawers.

The photo that's being discussed had the documents and folders arranged that way to show what was found. There are certainly photos of where they were all found as well. TFG has conveniently forgotten that.