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*BREAKING*Former Attorney General William Barr Lambastes Judge Loose Cannon. Says DOJ Should Appeal (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2022 OP
What's he up to? herding cats Sep 2022 #1
He knows if trump isn't prosecuted that Beachnutt Sep 2022 #6
Wow. That's insightful. Hadn't occurred to me but I bet that is exactly right. Scrivener7 Sep 2022 #10
No. The legal reasoning is shit, no self respecting criminal lawyer would think otherwise. Alexander Of Assyria Sep 2022 #16
sounds entirely plausible Evolve Dammit Sep 2022 #22
No, I think it's quite straightforward.... he's just a standard Republican OnDoutside Sep 2022 #9
Nailed it n/t Doc Sportello Sep 2022 #19
Also bill bar has nothing to lose Heather MC Sep 2022 #24
Yep, while he has zero credibility with Dems, your ordinary non maga OnDoutside Sep 2022 #26
He thinks he can rehabilitate himself Novara Sep 2022 #39
I really don't think he cares, and anyway, his reputation within the Republican Establishment is OnDoutside Sep 2022 #41
as a republican he also doesn't want anything big to happen before the elections and from a few certainot Sep 2022 #43
Definitely, he doesn't want any delay in getting Trump out of the way. OnDoutside Sep 2022 #46
Odd how Cheney and now Barr are now on our side tinrobot Sep 2022 #2
Barr, the Cheneys, Kinsinger, Joe Walsh.. Norbert Sep 2022 #17
Hell, DENVERPOPS Sep 2022 #32
Good luck with that plan. maxsolomon Sep 2022 #42
Thx max DENVERPOPS Sep 2022 #51
most of them are still afraid of the talk radio chorus, though the dregs left on air after limbaugh certainot Sep 2022 #44
When even a guy like Barr is blasting you ... Hugh_Lebowski Sep 2022 #3
"Judge Qannon!" I like that! BComplex Sep 2022 #15
Aileen "where's my Mercedes?" Cannon peppertree Sep 2022 #28
With regard to William Barr's extremely accurate characterization Mme. Defarge Sep 2022 #29
Judge Qannon! LIKE this a LOT! calimary Sep 2022 #47
I don't trust him . .... Lovie777 Sep 2022 #4
yes, why trust him? Anyway, the appeal will go to the 11th Circuit, and C. Thomas decides to CharleyDog Sep 2022 #20
There may be yet clear pathways to impeach some jurists...Ahhh. Samrob Sep 2022 #36
Hey, billy boy, had you done your JOB as AG, instead of acting as that F'n, murdering, niyad Sep 2022 #5
EXACTLY! bluestarone Sep 2022 #7
⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️ spanone Sep 2022 #8
Indeed! MyOwnPeace Sep 2022 #11
Total madness. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2022 #13
Yessiree! Evolve Dammit Sep 2022 #23
K & R ..Well said niyad. I like the lap dog part. It shines a light on the "lap dog." Stuart G Sep 2022 #38
Maybe he's hoping to be named as the special master FBaggins Sep 2022 #12
Suddenly Barr has a moral compass. There must be no profit in lying for the Orange Anus. CentralMass Sep 2022 #14
I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2022 #18
Exactly...anybody that has a voice that is calling out the orange mass for the criminal he is PortTack Sep 2022 #21
When even Jabba-the-Barr sounds the institutional alarm, you KNOW you've got 3rd world-style abuses peppertree Sep 2022 #25
There's got to be another angle to this. Barr and the opulent dei folks are always angling. erronis Sep 2022 #27
I suspect once they got the Supreme Court they wanted, they no longer felt the need tanyev Sep 2022 #31
Have the handlers implanted the device in DeSatan's brain yet? Or was he bred already trained? erronis Sep 2022 #35
DO. NOT. TRUST. HIM BigmanPigman Sep 2022 #30
What is Barr up to? Does he really think he can magically paint over his stripes? msfiddlestix Sep 2022 #33
A lot of them did that. EndlessWire Sep 2022 #49
✔️ not in the mood either. msfiddlestix Sep 2022 #53
Barr is the official spokesperson for the GOP establishment Raven123 Sep 2022 #34
Fuck Bill Barr 867-5309. Sep 2022 #37
+1 Emile Sep 2022 #40
The doj has 30 days to appeal. Bets on if it will? getagrip_already Sep 2022 #45
If the 11th Circuit is bought they might be better off not appealing. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2022 #48
Wow, the choices are confusing. EndlessWire Sep 2022 #50
Eff him!! No praise from me. mucifer Sep 2022 #52

Beachnutt

(8,936 posts)
6. He knows if trump isn't prosecuted that
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 04:28 PM
Sep 2022

there is a possibility of trump running and winning and trump will pull revenge on him for finally telling some truths.
He must go all in on getting trump prosecuted to save his own ass.

OnDoutside

(20,868 posts)
9. No, I think it's quite straightforward.... he's just a standard Republican
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 04:30 PM
Sep 2022

shithead establishment figure who no longer sees a use for this buffoon, and further, sees the inherent danger to the GOP if they don't get him off the stage. So he's doing the work the elected cowards are afraid to do.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
24. Also bill bar has nothing to lose
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 05:11 PM
Sep 2022

He doesn't run for office, all the jobs hes ever received hes been appointed to nobody ever elects him.

He can say whatever he wants and he does have credibility in the Republican party so some republicans may listen

OnDoutside

(20,868 posts)
26. Yep, while he has zero credibility with Dems, your ordinary non maga
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 05:16 PM
Sep 2022

republican voter would probably listen.

Novara

(6,115 posts)
39. He thinks he can rehabilitate himself
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 06:14 PM
Sep 2022

Sorry, he will forever be known as the orange fuck's corrupt lapdog.

OnDoutside

(20,868 posts)
41. I really don't think he cares, and anyway, his reputation within the Republican Establishment is
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 06:23 PM
Sep 2022

pretty safe.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
43. as a republican he also doesn't want anything big to happen before the elections and from a few
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 06:33 PM
Sep 2022

opinions i've heard an appeal could delay things considerably more than going ahead with a special master

OnDoutside

(20,868 posts)
46. Definitely, he doesn't want any delay in getting Trump out of the way.
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 06:55 PM
Sep 2022

He's certainly signalling that to the republican loyalists within the DOJ.

tinrobot

(12,104 posts)
2. Odd how Cheney and now Barr are now on our side
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 04:23 PM
Sep 2022

Well, at least on our side when it comes to TFG's criminality.

Hopefully, more will follow.

Norbert

(7,830 posts)
17. Barr, the Cheneys, Kinsinger, Joe Walsh..
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 04:48 PM
Sep 2022

The more on the right that turn, the more like-minded people like them will follow.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
32. Hell,
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 05:50 PM
Sep 2022

Maybe we can get Colin Powell to sway everyone like he did in 2001 with his fake antique weed killer spreader. He certainly convinced many that it was a WMD.........

There would be a very long list of Republican's that have sold the nation out for their own enrichment. Financially or Politically...

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
44. most of them are still afraid of the talk radio chorus, though the dregs left on air after limbaugh
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 06:37 PM
Sep 2022

croaked are no where near as intimidating

calimary

(90,538 posts)
47. Judge Qannon! LIKE this a LOT!
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 07:00 PM
Sep 2022

Gonna have to mind my spelling so her name is always spelled accurately.

PROVE YOU'RE NOT, Judge Qannon. What else are you gonna give him if he comes around again?

CharleyDog

(823 posts)
20. yes, why trust him? Anyway, the appeal will go to the 11th Circuit, and C. Thomas decides to
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 04:55 PM
Sep 2022

bring their cases to SC, so this would go to the SC and take a year or more? Guess how the SC will decide?

They will probably use some 16th century law and cite some other monarch-backing law to support the dotard in his treason. Also giving the Presidency more powers.

If they didn't appear immediately this morning, I doubt they will, and perhaps see trying to comply as the lesser of two evils.

Samrob

(4,298 posts)
36. There may be yet clear pathways to impeach some jurists...Ahhh.
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 06:00 PM
Sep 2022

The behavior and rulings of some of these "lightweight" judges ought to blight the influence of the Federalist Society. They have backed an embarrassingly lot of bad judges and attorneys.

niyad

(133,609 posts)
5. Hey, billy boy, had you done your JOB as AG, instead of acting as that F'n, murdering,
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 04:27 PM
Sep 2022

orange TRAITOR**'s lap dog, we might not be in this current nightmare.

MyOwnPeace

(17,603 posts)
11. Indeed!
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 04:33 PM
Sep 2022

Just like when Liz Cheney told Gym Jordan that this was all his fault - Barr-Barr-Hut is equally responsible - and no matter what he does that could possibly speed up the indictment of IQ45, he too needs to pay a price for his failures as our "NATIONAL ATTORNEY!"

Stuart G

(38,726 posts)
38. K & R ..Well said niyad. I like the lap dog part. It shines a light on the "lap dog."
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 06:12 PM
Sep 2022

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,975 posts)
18. I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth.
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 04:49 PM
Sep 2022

Like Liz Cheney is Ms. Republican, he is Mr. Republican.

PortTack

(35,824 posts)
21. Exactly...anybody that has a voice that is calling out the orange mass for the criminal he is
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 04:59 PM
Sep 2022

Please do so.

peppertree

(23,430 posts)
25. When even Jabba-the-Barr sounds the institutional alarm, you KNOW you've got 3rd world-style abuses
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 05:15 PM
Sep 2022

Aileen's trying to import Latin American-style kangaroo courts - and that suits Repugs just fine.

Especially Traitor Trump.

erronis

(24,320 posts)
27. There's got to be another angle to this. Barr and the opulent dei folks are always angling.
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 05:17 PM
Sep 2022

Throw in the libertarians and fedsocs - they all have their game plans. And none of them are good for the common people.

tanyev

(49,510 posts)
31. I suspect once they got the Supreme Court they wanted, they no longer felt the need
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 05:49 PM
Sep 2022

to keep Donald Trump around. Fully comprehend, in fact, Donny’s liabilities and how much damage he could intentionally or unintentionally do to their cause. I bet they’d much rather have DeSantis in the White House.

erronis

(24,320 posts)
35. Have the handlers implanted the device in DeSatan's brain yet? Or was he bred already trained?
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 05:56 PM
Sep 2022

I'm sure on one of the Moscow trips a little electronic stimulation unit was planted next to tfg's amygdala. A simple plus or minus stimulus would train the orange ape to follow orders.

EndlessWire

(8,103 posts)
49. A lot of them did that.
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 09:18 PM
Sep 2022

They did their thing supporting or working for Trump, and then when they realized their reputations were shot because of it, they turned around and pretended to be Superpatriots. They can shout all they want; we will remember them as what they were. Not in the mood lately for second chances.

Raven123

(7,871 posts)
34. Barr is the official spokesperson for the GOP establishment
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 05:54 PM
Sep 2022

The perfect guy. Doesn’t run for elections, already on the outs with TFG. Has nothing to lose.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
45. The doj has 30 days to appeal. Bets on if it will?
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 06:55 PM
Sep 2022

I saw on a legal review site that it isn't straightforward that the doj will appeal all or part of the ruling.

Their options are on the appeal side to try to get a change of venue based on jurisdiction claims, appeal a narrow segment, or attack it all. But they run the risk the appeals court will side with judge qudy. Then it could become precedent rather than one judge one court.

Or they could just let it go and try to get trump with what they have. If the master or judge qudy tries to return govt docs to him, they can appeal that. But they could still prosecute.

A normal doj would challenge it aggressively. This doj?

EndlessWire

(8,103 posts)
50. Wow, the choices are confusing.
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 09:26 PM
Sep 2022

Don't appeal, take your chances.
Appeal to 11th Circuit, take your chances.

I think they have no choice but to appeal. The decision is atrocious at all levels of understanding. She ignored most of the standing law, and allowing her to affect the concept of Executive Privilege in this context just can't be accepted. As much as it is painful to us, they should appeal. Then we can put off selecting a SM for her to pick from. I don't think that will go so well.

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