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(79,302 posts)I'm glad to see you did.
After Prince Philip's death, this was quite expected.
Gonna miss this remarkable woman.
PCIntern
(25,591 posts)But she is one of the few constants through my nearly 70 years. It will be quite a transition for us all in interesting ways. Particularly for those of us who have reached our seventh and eighth decades. I will never forget how shocked I was when President Kennedy was assassinated President Hoover was still alive and thought to myself wow time does move quickly in a way, and then other ways it does not.
Not too profound but you get what I mean
CatWoman
(79,302 posts)most of her offspring, not so much.
I'm wondering if there will be a power struggle, even tho Charles is next in line?
There's something vulturish about him.
PCIntern
(25,591 posts)Buckeyeblue
(5,502 posts)Elizabeth stayed popular--and the monarchy was tolerated--because of her connection to WWII. Her father was quite popular, mainly I think because he was never supposed to be king and seemed as regular as anyone in that family could be. And she and her sister stayed in England during all of the air raids. I think the people who lived through that loved her because of their shared experience.
Charles and really William, as well, just come from a place of absurd privilege. I don't see millennial or GenZ UKers given two fucks about the monarchy. And at some point they will grow to resist spending money on them.
In the end Harry will be the most popular because he walked away from all of the nonsense.
CatWoman
(79,302 posts)Harry is my favorite royalty
Buckeyeblue
(5,502 posts)Harry had the guts to stand up for himself and his wife. But most importantly he embraced her standing up for herself. I'm glad he walked away. He'll have a better life.
I think his father and brother resent his stepping away because they don't feel like they ever have that choice.
I'll be surprised if William ever gets to be king. But his son George won't. It'll be all over by then.
DenaliDemocrat
(1,476 posts)Kinda makes the whole blood argument silly.
BuddhaGirl
(3,610 posts)The British monarch will decline in popularity after Liz's passing.
I wouldn't be surprised if the family is making contingency plans for the future. Monarch is anachronistic and really has no place in modern society.
Buckeyeblue
(5,502 posts)Apparently there was a voting initiative to separate from the monarchy that was voted down, mostly because of the popularity of the queen. The speaker thought there would be another one in the not to distant future that probably would pass.
Another commentator thought Charles would have to slim down the monarchy.
It will be interesting.
lindysalsagal
(20,733 posts)Otherwise, as politicians go, she was less embarrassing than most. She only came around to appreciate Diana until after she died, and saw the world's reaction.
Willie Geist just asked, "Is Charles prepared to reign?" I laughed out loud at the screen...Yeah. For only about 50 years.....
PCIntern
(25,591 posts)Lucky sperm club
RobinA
(9,894 posts)I am 64 and this woman has been unchangable on the world stage my entire life. Pretty much everything I grew up with is gone, but Queen Elizabeth has remained. No one involved with the monarchy has ever been without her.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)She is an icon that surrounds us all.
the only queen I've ever known.
livetohike
(22,165 posts)before I was born .
Bucky
(54,068 posts)By doing her job well and she's probably preserved the institution of monarchy for the rest of the 21st century
48656c6c6f20
(7,638 posts)Two or three weeks or so of all monarchy all the time on every TV, radio, theater, jumbotron, water cooler, social media, every person I meet?
Well that's very sad.
spinbaby
(15,090 posts)They seem to be assuming her imminent death. I know shes 96, but it seems premature to assume shes about to die.
CatWoman
(79,302 posts)ProudMNDemocrat
(16,794 posts)So she has been the Queen of England all my life.
I have no love for Charles. William and Kate are the future of the Monarchy.
God bless the Queen.
jimfields33
(15,974 posts)Skip Charles. I dont think he deserves it. Hes probably the happiest right now. Cad that he is.
Emile
(22,945 posts)Tracer
(2,769 posts)She was in Boston in 1976 for the 200th Anniversary of the USA.
There was a motorcade and at one point it went up Memorial Drive (which parallels the Charles River). There were very few people on MD that day.
I happened to be on my dad's boat as we were coming up the river to dock. We saw the queen standing up in here limo, waving daintily left and right to the very sparse crowd.
My dad leaned on the very loud boat horn, and the queen turned around sideways and gave us a big wave!
PCIntern
(25,591 posts)I love that stuff.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Native
(5,943 posts)It was the state opening of Parliament (totally unbeknownst to us), and she always rides to and from Parliament on that day by carriage. We saw her returning to the palace. It was quite the procession. And on our walk back, a car with Charles and Camilla slowed down right next to us as they were turning into one of the back entrances, somewhere near the stables I believe. It was so strange to see them up so close. If their window had been down, I would have been able to touch his shoulder. He was reading a paper.
samnsara
(17,640 posts)..she said at 5 am her phone started dinging from the family chat...
arlyellowdog
(866 posts)Dick Chaney is still alive. I have nothing against Queen Elizabeth, but rich people can live years after they have a medical condition. I dont think she will let Charles become king while she is still breathing. I do have to say, Covid is a bitch. A lot of my friends have long term health problems after Covid and Elizabeth had Covid.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)best care -- as developed and codified in standards of care for others. If it's better than most in her condition are getting, it'll be because she (presumably) has physicians with very good judgement.
But not necessarily. The biggest talent of some who rise to the top is for self aggrandizement, and that includes in medicine. History has plenty of stories about leaders and wealthy people who supposedly could have the best of everything but instead receive inadequate to even criminally bad medical care.
tishaLA
(14,176 posts)The Beeb in particular is doing yeoman's work with the story....there can't be very many Brits or others in the commonwealth who remember a time when she wasn't the monarch
Kaleva
(36,354 posts)My parents weren't in high school yet when she was crowned
dembotoz
(16,844 posts)mopinko
(70,238 posts)and that they're waiting for the whole fam to get there to announce it.
obamanut2012
(26,142 posts)They are teh last, except Catherine is with the kids for now.
Native
(5,943 posts)obamanut2012
(26,142 posts)JCMach1
(27,574 posts)Hekate
(90,829 posts)JCMach1
(27,574 posts)While they planned the state funeral and mourning...
I knew the family...
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Native
(5,943 posts)"The BBC already leaked it on their 'live news' section, they wrote Charles will become king, and then it was quickly removed and replaced with Heir to the throne..."
Mysterian
(4,595 posts)She seems like a nice person, but any person with a shred of dignity would throw down the trappings of royalty.
Meowmee
(5,164 posts)My neighbor and dear friend of 94 just passed in August, it was devastating . Very sad for her family if she is that ill which it sounds like.
Peacetrain
(22,879 posts)for the family. My Mother lived to be 93, and I still grieve for her..
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)She's reportedly "resting comfortably." I just noticed that last October, when she needed to spend a night in the hospital, the public was not informed until after. This is being handled very differently.
Aside from all the other feelings she might have, I'm guessing she probably wants to live to see her nation, and her family, come safely through this dangerous period, and to be available to do anything she can to help. I know I do.
MineralMan
(146,333 posts)I was 7 years old, and we had just gotten the family's first TV set. I'm an old geezer. Yes I am.
crazylikafox
(2,762 posts)My parents bought it so we could watch the coronation. I remember sitting on my fathers lap watching it on that brand new tv.
There's a whole bunch of old geezers on this thread
MineralMan
(146,333 posts)We're not gone yet!
Biophilic
(3,697 posts)if it before or after her coronation. My mother took us down to watch the motorcade. I can't really remember what she looked like but I remember the size and excitement of the crowd. It was a collage town and I don't think anything like this had happened before. I was was just 6. Still one of my true memories from childhood.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)crickets
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I admire her strength through WWII and the death of her father, then her calm presence on the throne through everything that has come after. She has quietly been there for my entire life. The one-two punch of Covid and the loss of Philip is a lot to ask anyone to bear, but I thought she'd be around for just a few years more.
My heart goes out to the UK right now. First Brexit and its painful fallout, then Boris Johnson, the equally rancid PM they've recently been stuck with, and now this. Damn. Hugs to them.
allegorical oracle
(2,357 posts)"The whole country will be deeply concerned by the news from Buckingham Palace this lunchtime."
https://abcnews.go.com/International/britains-queen-elizabeth-ii-medical-supervision/story?id=89517044
(the ABC story with Truss's tweet was posted about a half-hour ago.)
DFW
(54,445 posts)When I think of "been there, done that," she's the one living person who could really say that and mean it about pretty much anything.
frogmarch
(12,160 posts)a little round-screen TV at a family friend's house when I was 9 years old.
I'm not a fan of the concept of royalty, but I don't like what is happening to Queen Elizabeth.
Hekate
(90,829 posts)The British Queen has been around for all our lives as well.