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If he succeeded in stealing this country's most sensitive secrets, could he have stolen a bomb? (Original Post) duforsure Sep 2022 OP
If they know how to build it, they don't need to go to the trouble of stealing it. Scrivener7 Sep 2022 #1
Would TFG steal one to use as leverage against us , duforsure Sep 2022 #4
Oh... well, yes. I hadn't thought of that. Though in my defense, none of us can Scrivener7 Sep 2022 #7
I think there is no dirty deed that trump is not capable of Walleye Sep 2022 #2
agree 100% duforsure Sep 2022 #5
I put ***NOTHING*** ... zero, zilch past MAGA, they're a national threat to democracy uponit7771 Sep 2022 #3
No Abnredleg Sep 2022 #6
Conspiracy theories are getting a little ridiculous here. MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2022 #9
Who thought he would have stolen nuclear secrets when he left office? duforsure Sep 2022 #13
Stealing nuclear secrets and stealing a nuclear warhead MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2022 #14
How can we be sure, especially with how many have already been corrupted. duforsure Sep 2022 #17
You very obviously have no clue as to the safeguards involved MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2022 #18
Apples & Oranges ProfessorGAC Sep 2022 #32
I'm with you on this MissMillie Sep 2022 #27
How would he steal a bomb, and by bomb, I'm guessing you mean a nuclear warhead. MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2022 #8
He may be able to remove his depends gab13by13 Sep 2022 #10
LOL. MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2022 #11
Yes, thank you. GoCubsGo Sep 2022 #12
We underestimated his ability to get our most sensitive secrets , didn't we. duforsure Sep 2022 #15
So tell us just how Benedict Donald would steal a nuke warhead? MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2022 #16
Don't know, but look at what he has gotten already that we thought was safe. duforsure Sep 2022 #19
Again, stealing docs. is far, far different from stealing an actual warhead. nt MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2022 #20
That's true, but, duforsure Sep 2022 #21
Movies have given people the notion sarisataka Sep 2022 #25
Jack Bauer to the rescue! (n/t) MissMillie Sep 2022 #28
Reality I figure, idle stock is protected by the trifecta in range? Brainfodder Sep 2022 #30
Reality I figure, idle stock is protected by the trifecta in range? Brainfodder Sep 2022 #31
I wonder what he was really planning to do if his goons didn't succeed on Jan. 6th. Initech Sep 2022 #22
Yes, it is well known sarisataka Sep 2022 #23
Huh? A HERETIC I AM Sep 2022 #24
Democrats are supposed to be part of the "reality-based community." Just A Box Of Rain Sep 2022 #26
Could his Aunt have had balls? maxsolomon Sep 2022 #29
No need jmowreader Sep 2022 #33
I have to first ForgedCrank Sep 2022 #34

duforsure

(11,880 posts)
4. Would TFG steal one to use as leverage against us ,
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 07:26 AM
Sep 2022

As a threat, or allow an enemy to put one or more inside our country to threaten us with them.

Scrivener7

(50,263 posts)
7. Oh... well, yes. I hadn't thought of that. Though in my defense, none of us can
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 07:29 AM
Sep 2022

really keep up with his deviancy. That's why we have to band together. You think of one thing, I think of another.

Yep. If he could do that, he would.

Abnredleg

(655 posts)
6. No
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 07:29 AM
Sep 2022

Security is way too tight and far too many people would have to be involved. And even if one was stolen, each bomb is equipped with a Permissive Action Link, which is an access control security device that prevents unauthorized detonation.



MarineCombatEngineer

(11,973 posts)
18. You very obviously have no clue as to the safeguards involved
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 07:54 AM
Sep 2022

in the protection of the nation's nuclear arsenal, weil, I do and I can confidently say that Benedict Donald did not steal a warhead.

ProfessorGAC

(63,689 posts)
32. Apples & Oranges
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 10:55 AM
Sep 2022

A nuclear document weighs a couple ounces and can be hidden between the pages of a magazine.
A nuclear device, even a small one, weighs between 30 and 2,500kg.
Sneaking one out is much harder than you are surmising.

MissMillie

(38,340 posts)
27. I'm with you on this
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 10:35 AM
Sep 2022

My very first thought was that we should leave the conspiracies to the Q-heads.

I do think, that due to the nature of the materials found in TFGs possession, there is a lot we will never know about those materials. Such is the nature of national security.

MarineCombatEngineer

(11,973 posts)
8. How would he steal a bomb, and by bomb, I'm guessing you mean a nuclear warhead.
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 07:34 AM
Sep 2022

It's not like he could just put one in his briefcase and walk out with it, like he did with those docs. he stole.

He would have to have a multitude of people in cahoots with him, he would have to have the arming codes, he would have to have........well, you get the picture.

No, Benedict Donald didn't steal a bomb, but as far as allowing a hostile country to bring in a bomb, who knows, but I highly doubt it.

GoCubsGo

(32,030 posts)
12. Yes, thank you.
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 07:44 AM
Sep 2022

The only thing I could see him finding a way to steal would be if it was if it was a small tactical weapon. But, as you point out, he'd still need to be in cahoots with multiple people. The entire system would have to be run by burrowed Trumpsters for him to pull off something like that. It is not.

But, yes. Letting a hostile country smuggle a dirty bomb is not out of the realm of possibility. However, we have been preparing for that sort of thing for the past two decades. I agree it's not likely he can pull off something like that.

MarineCombatEngineer

(11,973 posts)
16. So tell us just how Benedict Donald would steal a nuke warhead?
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 07:49 AM
Sep 2022

Do you have any idea how well guarded our nuclear weapons are?
I do.

duforsure

(11,880 posts)
21. That's true, but,
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 08:16 AM
Sep 2022

I never would have dreamed how high up in our government has been corrupted. General Flynn and his brother and likely more. Anything could be possible with enough corrupt people involved.

sarisataka

(17,996 posts)
25. Movies have given people the notion
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 10:19 AM
Sep 2022

Nuclear weapons are just kept in cages secured with padlocks. You can just drive up in your pickup with a bolt cutter and take one.

Then activation is simply a matter of setting the digital timer on the side and pushing the conveniently located red button to start the countdown...

Brainfodder

(6,411 posts)
30. Reality I figure, idle stock is protected by the trifecta in range?
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 10:53 AM
Sep 2022

That is all I require to sleep well.

Brainfodder

(6,411 posts)
31. Reality I figure, idle stock is protected by the trifecta in range?
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 10:53 AM
Sep 2022

That is all I require to sleep well.

sarisataka

(17,996 posts)
23. Yes, it is well known
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 10:05 AM
Sep 2022

There is a nuclear closet in the White House where they keep half a dozen bombs for the President to use. He could have put one in an old pillow case. Hopefully the cleaning staff has counted to be sure they are all there.

He could also easily have helped enemies. As President he could have ordered customs to stand down for 24 hours and not inspect any shipments arriving in the US. With no inspectors on duty our enemies could smuggle hundreds of weapons into the country and no one would be the least bit suspicious.

Also he might have accepted a gift of a large wooden rabbit, given under curious circumstances.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
26. Democrats are supposed to be part of the "reality-based community."
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 10:29 AM
Sep 2022

Please stop spreading unfounded conspiracy theories.

maxsolomon

(32,723 posts)
29. Could his Aunt have had balls?
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 10:43 AM
Sep 2022

Would she be his uncle?

The reality is bad enough; no need for implausible speculation.

jmowreader

(50,328 posts)
33. No need
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 10:56 AM
Sep 2022

You know the old phrase “the pen is mightier than the sword.”

Some of the information he stole will - not “could” but WILL - fuck up our foreign relations for decades. It’s going to take a very long time to regain the world’s trust after the President of the United States, the most trusted job there is, stole information about other countries and shopped it to adversaries of those countries.

That’s worse damage than even a Tsar Bomba could do. You can rebuild buildings pretty easily. Trust is a different story.

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