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New Fetterman ad...it is hillarious! (Original Post) Demsrule86 Sep 2022 OP
Oh, Lordy. When Fetterman is in the Senate, can he still keep up these entertaining ads? LOL hlthe2b Sep 2022 #1
Whew underpants Sep 2022 #4
That's a Stephen Colbert production Brother Buzz Sep 2022 #6
Also posted on DU... 2naSalit Sep 2022 #83
Yes, and once in a Blue Moon I catch it on YouTube before Rhiannon12866 posts it Brother Buzz Sep 2022 #129
God I hope so. The GOP won't know what happened. He was a force to reckoned with in the Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #7
Would love to hear the sounds in the OZ campaign offices today! liberalla Sep 2022 #2
Between the puppy murder accusations and this...they are probably sobbing loudly and sticking Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #8
I hadn't heard of the puppy murders until your post, and went to liberalla Sep 2022 #25
I found what looks like an NIH document....but I don't know for sure. Although no one has denied Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #27
i saw that warning you posted and decided i didn't need to see whatever it was. orleans Sep 2022 #45
Of course, I am sorry I looked at it myself. It is triggering... I hate that guy. Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #56
I would add if it is true and Oz has to defend this sort of thing...he is finished. Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #28
I agree. He should be finished anyway... Let him run for office in Turkey! liberalla Sep 2022 #50
That is where he belongs for sure...not here. I bet he can do anything he wants in Turkey as he Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #57
It's Saturday they are all attending family reunions Aerator Sep 2022 #62
! liberalla Sep 2022 #65
I Want The Booze & Antacid Concession For Dr Oz HQ nt smb Sep 2022 #110
Like the same Grandma underpants Sep 2022 #3
I know right...it so awful and yet so damn funny. Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #11
Technically, OZ is talking 2nd cousins who share a Great Grandma, but still. TigressDem Sep 2022 #54
Beta tested by Rudy Ghouliani. SergeStorms Sep 2022 #113
This is even more... JoeOtterbein Sep 2022 #5
Whoever is doing the media for Fetterman...is a f'ing genius! Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #12
the video for ok cousin dating ap was a colbert pre-show video. orleans Sep 2022 #49
Yep. The best ever. brush Sep 2022 #55
What?-My cousin kisses as good as my uncle? Marthe48 Sep 2022 #9
It is so creepy...and notice age is never discussed...the cousin were underage at the time...one of Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #13
Well, Incest is wrong and OZ is stupid, but not completely wrong. TigressDem Sep 2022 #10
I come from...on my Mom's side a family that kept the money in the family in a small Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #14
Exactly the same story here, except they were from Pennsylvania... Mozeltov Cocktail Sep 2022 #85
Yes. and in the actual interview Oz was waxing scientific on the genetic issues diminishing further hlthe2b Sep 2022 #16
He has the best words.... I don't know why people cringe when he talks. TFG about OZ. TigressDem Sep 2022 #17
I am scientifically trained and found the bit about his daughters awful...I had a professor I worked Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #22
That certainly was a class to remember! catbyte Sep 2022 #26
It was...more than a few dropped the course. They were not science majors and just needed their Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #38
I love a rebel! catbyte Sep 2022 #44
It was pretty horrible ...the girl that worked with me took the rabbits home with her rather than Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #53
I remember back in high school, we had to do experiments for Biology class. I chose what the catbyte Sep 2022 #72
We had a marriage in our family that raised eyebrows Marthe48 Sep 2022 #24
It's good to see a Democrat turning the tables. yardwork Sep 2022 #58
That is not a real Dem ad. It is from the genius Colbert production amuse bouche Sep 2022 #63
Democrats badly need a new approach. This works! yardwork Sep 2022 #104
You are correct soldierant Sep 2022 #64
What about 1st cousins 1x removed? I have 78 of them living. LiberalFighter Sep 2022 #94
Better check with Ancestry.com, do a DNA or 23 and me TigressDem Sep 2022 #95
These are all living people. I filtered out anyone with a death date. LiberalFighter Sep 2022 #106
Well, you seem fairly committed... TigressDem Sep 2022 #108
Yes, TigressDem, genetically speaking, the odds of getting two copies of a recessive gene are far Martin68 Sep 2022 #112
Now wait a f---g minute. My family came from WV. doc03 Sep 2022 #15
Check out the other half, improve the gene pool. nt TigressDem Sep 2022 #18
Who is going to marry a Hatfield? doc03 Sep 2022 #20
Probably not a McCoy! Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #23
Then go shopping in another state, I guess. TigressDem Sep 2022 #30
Since you are into genealogy, you must know wnylib Sep 2022 #114
Yeah. That's where the term "kissing cousin" comes from. TigressDem Sep 2022 #115
Yes, that's what I meant when I said that wnylib Sep 2022 #117
hahah...My great-grandparents in a small town in Virginia were first cousins. My uncle told Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #19
No lie. My professor in College stopped doing human genetic studies when he taught at WVU. Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #21
If it is one thing a Republican ego hates it is being laughed at rurallib Sep 2022 #29
OZ's ego is having it's Humpty Dumpty moment. SPLAT!! TigressDem Sep 2022 #37
I love that....hahah Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #47
That is so true. I can imagine this ad will raise some cash too for the campaign... Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #48
Rofl Joinfortmill Sep 2022 #31
I watched it several times and I laugh everytime...the first time, I almost spit coffee on my Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #46
Brilliant!! chowder66 Sep 2022 #32
The Fetterman media folks are geniuses...for sure. Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #43
Kicking for visibility SheltieLover Sep 2022 #33
Oz doesn't have a chance. BComplex Sep 2022 #34
I absolutely agree...it is insufferable and hilarious at the same time. Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #41
This message was approved by Dr. Oz, and .. Bo Zarts Sep 2022 #35
Oh God...funny Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #40
Genetically speaking, he was mostly right Warpy Sep 2022 #36
But the creepy factor is stronger than the science IMHO. Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #39
Oh my God. That is laughing out loud funny. brush Sep 2022 #42
He really does...I spit out my coffee laughing the firsts time. Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #60
wonder how many people would try to find that "app"?? AllaN01Bear Sep 2022 #51
You think that would happen? Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #61
That was hysterical Deminpenn Sep 2022 #52
So were my great-grandparents...first cousins on my Mom's side. Were they first or second Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #67
FDR and Eleanor were 5th cousins once removed wishstar Sep 2022 #92
For years, the local joke has been Deminpenn Sep 2022 #131
I am related to the Roosevelts. OneCrazyDiamond Sep 2022 #133
Well, Oz has sewn up the Whittakers' votes! Unfortunately for him, they're in West Virginia. SunSeeker Sep 2022 #59
hahah....funny! Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #68
Dr. Oz is much too stupid to know that he is stupid!! no text Stuart G Sep 2022 #66
He may be some sort of a savant or on the spectrum like Ben Carson. Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #69
Maybe an alien from the planet "Largo." Stuart G Sep 2022 #70
That could be... I hear aliens from 'Largo' are very concerning and may have nuclear secrets...hehe Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #73
Aliens from "Largo" prefer daddy/daughter rather than cousins. keithbvadu2 Sep 2022 #118
LOL!! peggysue2 Sep 2022 #71
Fetterman's team is amazing...they turn punching back into an art form. Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #77
Great ad! Emile Sep 2022 #74
My wife's maternal grandparents were 1st cousins. trof Sep 2022 #75
Not surprising given my family. My great-aunt Mary used to say she was born a 'Jones' and married a Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #81
I had a great aunt Mary too. trof Sep 2022 #139
Ok. This is funny but... Blue_playwright Sep 2022 #76
No, the question was about a cousin who called into Charlemanges show and asked how bad it was Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #78
Should have ended it with btw odious OZ..incest/rape is a fucking crime! RestoreAmerica2020 Sep 2022 #79
Yeah, we didn't even talk about that. In many states incest is illegal. He is a maroon. Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #82
Very cute, but for Oz's constituents, that's a feature, not a bug. malthaussen Sep 2022 #80
Don't feel bad as I said my great Grandparents on my mom's side were first cousins. Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #87
Ok, that got a chuckle... Wounded Bear Sep 2022 #84
I thought it was hilarious too... Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #88
This was Stephen Colbert's Opening on Thursday: Rhiannon12866 Sep 2022 #86
Thanks...that was funny! I hadn't had that channel for a while but got sling for the election... Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #89
He's terrific at keeping up with the news, not to mention the needed comedy Rhiannon12866 Sep 2022 #90
I used to like him a great deal. And Sling blue is 35 per month. Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #91
Well, I've been posting his monologue and opening for a few years now, and any political guests Rhiannon12866 Sep 2022 #93
I am going to look for your posts and watch too. Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #96
I am going to look for your posts and watch too. Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #97
He just came back this week (they all did) so he's really been on a roll, catching up on all the news Rhiannon12866 Sep 2022 #99
Thankyou. Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #101
The Openings are really good, too Rhiannon12866 Sep 2022 #103
Stay up and watch two ? DontBelieveEastisEas Sep 2022 #105
I wish Fetterman hadn't done that. LAS14 Sep 2022 #98
I think it is creepy as hell. Did you read about the daughter thing? Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #100
Yes, there is. TigressDem Sep 2022 #109
Yes it is...Oz is just weird and based on the puppy thing if true and 15 minute checkups Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #123
Fabulous malaise Sep 2022 #102
I think so. Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #124
Oz knows his MAGA voting base. LudwigPastorius Sep 2022 #107
That's wicked! Martin68 Sep 2022 #111
That is what I think Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #120
Pennsylvania family values, eh, Oz? keithbvadu2 Sep 2022 #116
Right! Oz family values. PA will kick this guy out. Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #119
Demsrule86............... Upthevibe Sep 2022 #121
Thank you! I laughed my butt off too...and ridiculing someone (who deserves it) works everytime Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #138
What a maroon yankee87 Sep 2022 #122
What's up doc? A maroon indeed. Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #137
LOL burrowowl Sep 2022 #125
Definitely in my top 10 of best campaign commercials ever. Vinca Sep 2022 #126
Yep - completely up to DATE malaise Sep 2022 #127
It sure was and done with humor. Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #136
Yep - completely up to DATE malaise Sep 2022 #128
This message was self-deleted by its author DontBelieveEastisEas Sep 2022 #130
I laughed my butt of and almost ruined my keyboard with a mouthful of coffee. Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #135
Rudy must have had the app's beta version n/t AdamGG Sep 2022 #132
for sure...didn't he marry his cousin? Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #134

hlthe2b

(113,968 posts)
1. Oh, Lordy. When Fetterman is in the Senate, can he still keep up these entertaining ads? LOL
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 04:28 PM
Sep 2022


BRILLIANT

underpants

(196,495 posts)
4. Whew
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 04:32 PM
Sep 2022

When he had his stroke and got the pacemaker I was like OH NO. He seems to have recovered well from a political standpoint. I’d guess PA is so split it’s a ham sammich type thing with suburban women deciding it.

Brother Buzz

(39,899 posts)
6. That's a Stephen Colbert production
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 04:35 PM
Sep 2022

You can continue to watch them with Fetterman in the Senate if you stay up late. That, or catch them the next day on his YouTube channel.

Brother Buzz

(39,899 posts)
129. Yes, and once in a Blue Moon I catch it on YouTube before Rhiannon12866 posts it
Sun Sep 11, 2022, 12:07 PM
Sep 2022

And Damnit, she's so good, it's posted on DU by the time I finish watching it.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
7. God I hope so. The GOP won't know what happened. He was a force to reckoned with in the
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 04:38 PM
Sep 2022

PA legislature.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
8. Between the puppy murder accusations and this...they are probably sobbing loudly and sticking
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 04:39 PM
Sep 2022

pins in an effigy of Donald Trump who recommended Oz.

liberalla

(11,089 posts)
25. I hadn't heard of the puppy murders until your post, and went to
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 05:05 PM
Sep 2022

look it up. OMG, this is just horrible if it's true.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
27. I found what looks like an NIH document....but I don't know for sure. Although no one has denied
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 05:09 PM
Sep 2022

it and there are witnesses. One poster who brought it up said it likely wasn't true for a variety of reasons but then deleted all his posts so I don't know. Twitter is saying it is true. And Oz has not denied it ...that is all I know and there are documents and witnesses. It is awful. I posted it here but put a warning on the OP. I wish I could unsee it.

orleans

(36,918 posts)
45. i saw that warning you posted and decided i didn't need to see whatever it was.
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 05:34 PM
Sep 2022

thank you for doing the warning. seriously.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
57. That is where he belongs for sure...not here. I bet he can do anything he wants in Turkey as he
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 05:44 PM
Sep 2022

is rich.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
11. I know right...it so awful and yet so damn funny.
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 04:41 PM
Sep 2022
The video was worse...really creepy and not funny at all. but this ad is hilarious.

TigressDem

(5,126 posts)
54. Technically, OZ is talking 2nd cousins who share a Great Grandma, but still.
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 05:42 PM
Sep 2022
Doh!

Incest Good. NO NO

SergeStorms

(20,591 posts)
113. Beta tested by Rudy Ghouliani.
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 10:40 PM
Sep 2022

I can see Rudy doing promotional spots for Oz's app on late-nite TV, the same channels that ran the "Trumpy Bear" ads. 🤮

orleans

(36,918 posts)
49. the video for ok cousin dating ap was a colbert pre-show video.
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 05:37 PM
Sep 2022

i don't know if this made it to commercials on tv

Marthe48

(23,175 posts)
9. What?-My cousin kisses as good as my uncle?
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 04:39 PM
Sep 2022

oz giving his permission for all the rapists in a family. What a brass-plated loser.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
13. It is so creepy...and notice age is never discussed...the cousin were underage at the time...one of
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 04:43 PM
Sep 2022

them was certainly.

TigressDem

(5,126 posts)
10. Well, Incest is wrong and OZ is stupid, but not completely wrong.
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 04:40 PM
Sep 2022

"More than a first cousin away would be second cousins" is genetically not likely to cause problems and you won't have the same Grandma, same Great Grandma maybe.

BUT to equate relationships with second cousins in the same sentence with INCEST IS NOT A BIG PROBLEM is SO STUPID it should be tattooed on his forehead.


Incest is the crime of two members of the same family having sexual intercourse, for example a father and daughter, or a brother and sister.

“Why is incest a crime?” The main reasoning behind laws that make it a crime is that it causes harm to family relationships and that it can result in genetic defects in children.

ALSO typically "incest" is a RAPE because the offender is older and more powerful than the victim and the victim is often not given a choice.

Inbreeding among first cousins if adults and consensual is a stupid game of genetic roulette, but it isn't the same as a parent or older sibling raping a child without their consent.





https://www.ancestry.com/dna/lp/cousins-dna-match



Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
14. I come from...on my Mom's side a family that kept the money in the family in a small
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 04:45 PM
Sep 2022

Virginia town. My great-grandparents were first cousins...ewww. That generation was not lucky in terms of healthy offspring.

Mozeltov Cocktail

(200 posts)
85. Exactly the same story here, except they were from Pennsylvania...
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 06:59 PM
Sep 2022

With the death of Queen Elizabeth, I was reading how Queen Victoria literally destroyed monarchies with her arranged incestuous marriages.

On a different note, Democrats have the distinct possibility of 55 seats in the Senate...I believe we're going to do it, and hold the house.

There are less than 60 days till the election, season two of "Trump's Insurrection" is coming back on the air. The spinoff, "Trump's Espionage" doesn't look like it will be ready but the teasers will be out and the critics will be out in force.

hlthe2b

(113,968 posts)
16. Yes. and in the actual interview Oz was waxing scientific on the genetic issues diminishing further
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 04:47 PM
Sep 2022

down the family tree than first cousins, which is correct. HOWEVER, if you listen to the whole interview he also goes into the most cringe-worthy discussion of pheromones explaining why daughters (including his own) evolutionarily diminish attraction to their father's smell, unlike their mother. It was truly awful, though--even more so because he is so clueless as to how this comes across to the general public not indoctrinated in evolutionary biology, genetics or medicine.

So his cluelessness is what is nailing him, not so much the "technical facts."

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
22. I am scientifically trained and found the bit about his daughters awful...I had a professor I worked
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 04:58 PM
Sep 2022

for one semester who was teaching non-science majors and he obtained a human uterus from his doctor-wife. He was very excited to show the class. I tried to dissuade him to no avail. He had it in formalin (large sink) and reached in at the beginning of class and hauled it out...two students fainted and one vomited. We had to call an ambulance.

catbyte

(39,152 posts)
26. That certainly was a class to remember!
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 05:07 PM
Sep 2022

Yikes. I know I shouldn't be laughing, but dang. What a knucklehead. Nobody not in pre-med wants to see something like that.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
38. It was...more than a few dropped the course. They were not science majors and just needed their
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 05:24 PM
Sep 2022

science credit...he had them doing labs and lab notebooks...it was like a survey of Biology course...pretty damn hard in the summer too. But the professor simply could not understand why his students were not grateful to learn this wonderful subject...I also worked in the animal labs which is why I did not go into research in the end. And one holiday the custodians turned of the lights in the mice/rat room. This is bad because rats turn feral in the darkness. Anyway one had escaped he was a pet that I had raised myself...Charlie brown. He bit the hell out of my hand and required like 10 stitches and a tetanus shot.

The same professor ordered me to euthanize the rat. I refused the thing had chased me around the room before attacking me and was now captured in a special cage and hissed at anyone who came near him. I refused to do it. Dr. X gave me a stern talking to and announced he himself would do it. He then went to the lab. I refused to even observe. He came back about 30 minutes later and announced that perhaps Dr. U might want the rat to feed his snakes and wanted me to check with Dr. U. The good Doctor said no, he thought the rat might hurt his snakes. So Charlie Brown was still going strong when I graduated. He was in a cage where it could be cleaned without removing him and he could be fed the same way. He lived to a ripe old age and became famous among students and faculty.

catbyte

(39,152 posts)
44. I love a rebel!
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 05:34 PM
Sep 2022

Poor little guy. I wouldn't be able to work in an animal lab -- I'd be sobbing all of the time. Kudos to you for sticking up for him.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
53. It was pretty horrible ...the girl that worked with me took the rabbits home with her rather than
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 05:42 PM
Sep 2022

Euthanize them...she worked for a different professor...the experiment was over and the animals were not used but were supposed to be euthanized. They ended up as pets which is strictly illegal by the way. I decided not to go into research as I could not endure animals in the lab. I understand that it is necessary and all, but I just can't do it.

catbyte

(39,152 posts)
72. I remember back in high school, we had to do experiments for Biology class. I chose what the
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 06:29 PM
Sep 2022

effects nicotine would have on hamsters. The teacher gave me two hamsters and a small bottle of liquid nicotine. Well, I couldn't do it. I folded like a lasagna noodle in boiling water. Turned out the hamsters were male and female. So shortly thereafter, I discovered 6 tiny baby hamsters in the cage, so I modified my experiment to document the growth cycle of hamsters. I got an A- and my friends each got a hamster. End of Biology career.

Marthe48

(23,175 posts)
24. We had a marriage in our family that raised eyebrows
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 05:05 PM
Sep 2022

My Dad's father's youngest half-brother married my Dad's maternal aunt's older daughter. My generation knew about the marriage and noticed that while the people were beloved, the adults acted funny about their marriage and family ties, didn't talk much about it. When I got into geneaology, I realized that even though a half-uncle had married his niece, they weren't related by blood. They were close in age, and adults when they got married. I can see why the generations involved didn't have much to say, and I felt relief when I understood the genetic relationship. Their daughter, my 3rd cousin, told me her parents when she was 14 and told his parents on the way home that he was going to marry her.

I guess it was good to know about their relationship. It made it easier for our parents to discuss incest and why we couldn't marry our cousins or siblings. My pre-teen grands just brought the subject of marriages up, which was interesting, to say the least.




yardwork

(69,364 posts)
58. It's good to see a Democrat turning the tables.
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 05:47 PM
Sep 2022

The Republicans have gotten elected for decades using ads that were far, far more unfair than this. Good for Fetterman. He saw his opponent's weakness and went there.

amuse bouche

(3,672 posts)
63. That is not a real Dem ad. It is from the genius Colbert production
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 06:02 PM
Sep 2022

Dems should hire Colbert writers though. They are amazing

soldierant

(9,354 posts)
64. You are correct
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 06:07 PM
Sep 2022

but this is something not taught in school. A lot of people think that a relationship which is actually first cousin once removed is a second cousin - and haveno idea what "removed" even means in family history. In one of E. Nesbit's books the children met anothe child who claimed to be a fifth cousin of Queen Victoria 17 times removed, and after mich thought came to the conclusion that this cousin must have loved the Queen very much to have tried to see her (and been removed) so many times.

Besides, Franklin and Eleanor's kids turned out just fime.

LiberalFighter

(53,544 posts)
94. What about 1st cousins 1x removed? I have 78 of them living.
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 07:41 PM
Sep 2022

I also have 1st cousins all the way to 10x removed.

Or Half 1st cousins?

TigressDem

(5,126 posts)
95. Better check with Ancestry.com, do a DNA or 23 and me
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 07:55 PM
Sep 2022

1st cousin 1x removed is your cousin's child. Now depending on how old your cousin is, there could be a cradle robbing situation there.

10 times removed are probably corpses, since it goes back generations past your 3rd great grand parent.

Now necrophilia is gross, but probably no genetic issues as no reproduction, but there could be residual STDs so I probably would advise against it any way.


LiberalFighter

(53,544 posts)
106. These are all living people. I filtered out anyone with a death date.
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 09:34 PM
Sep 2022

I did respond I had 78 living 1st cousins 1x removed. The same goes for 1st cousins 10x removed.

They are descendants of at least 8th great grandparents from the early 1600's.

TigressDem

(5,126 posts)
108. Well, you seem fairly committed...
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 10:12 PM
Sep 2022

I guess just stay away from the 2 columns on the left. Same grandparent, too much DNA in common.

Good luck.

Invite us to the wedding.

Martin68

(27,749 posts)
112. Yes, TigressDem, genetically speaking, the odds of getting two copies of a recessive gene are far
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 10:33 PM
Sep 2022

lower between first cousins or siblings. But I think this was probably satire and a political hit job.

doc03

(39,086 posts)
15. Now wait a f---g minute. My family came from WV.
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 04:45 PM
Sep 2022

My great grand parents were 1st cousins. What do you do if half the county is related, you go to the family reunion to meet girls. I found this out from ansestry .com.

TigressDem

(5,126 posts)
30. Then go shopping in another state, I guess.
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 05:16 PM
Sep 2022
Howdy Mamm. I'm from West Virginia.


You're pretty.



wnylib

(26,012 posts)
114. Since you are into genealogy, you must know
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 11:12 PM
Sep 2022

that first cousin marriages were pretty common in the past, and second cousins even more so.

I was able to trace several ancestral lines on one side of one grandmother's family back to colonial New England and from there, to Medieval England. There were yeoman farmers on England who increased their land holdings by marrying into other, local yeoman farmers' families and then kept the lands in the family by marrying cousins. The first time I saw it on a chart and realized what it was, I nearly wretched.

But then, in America, a couple of their descendants married into colonial families who descended from the Plantagenet dynasty in which cousins (descendants of Edward III's large family) routinely married each other and fought wars with each other over the lines of succession.

I am grateful that more recent lines did not marry any cousins. Many descendants of colonial Puritans have a few cousin marriages in their family trees from Britain and even in America in the early colonial generations.

Cousin marriages happened in other countries, too, and not just among nobles and royals. People in small villages who did not travel far beyond maybe the next village ended up being related to each other after a few generations.

BTW, inbreeding does not create genetic defects if there aren't any in the family to begin with. Inbreeding allows existing defects, especially ones that are genetically recessive, to increase and flourish within a family.

Personally, cousin marriages are repulsive to me, and it's creepy to know that they were in my family tree several generations ago, but it seems that they exist in quite a few family trees if you go back far enough.


TigressDem

(5,126 posts)
115. Yeah. That's where the term "kissing cousin" comes from.
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 11:23 PM
Sep 2022

The thing is, ALL human DNA has little defects or just less desirable traits here and there.

BUT when your DNA and another person's DNA is different enough, there is a more likely result of selecting the strongest traits of each.

The more similar the DNA, the less of a choice available and lesser traits or even defects are what is available.

Think of dog breeding and how eventually how certain breeds started having hip issues or breathing problems being passed down.



wnylib

(26,012 posts)
117. Yes, that's what I meant when I said that
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 11:53 PM
Sep 2022

inbreeding allows existing defects to flourish within a family. There is less genetic diversity so the same genes keep reproducing.

Some defects are recessive, so if only one parent has the defective gene, the children will either not get it, or get only one copy of it so the defect will not manifest. But, people who are related might each have one copy of the recessive defective gene. Their children could have one recessive defective gene and one dominant "normal" gene, or two dominant genes, or two recessive genes. The chances of having at least one recessive defective gene are greater when both parents have it. The chances of getting two recessive defective genes are also increased when both parents have one. The child who inherits both recessive genes will have the defect.

So inbreeding increases the continuance of an undesirable gene and the chances of manifesting the defect if a child gets two of those genes. The defect will flourish in families that are inbred.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
19. hahah...My great-grandparents in a small town in Virginia were first cousins. My uncle told
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 04:50 PM
Sep 2022

me that he never went to family reunions as a young man as he didn't want to be tempted. And the town was so small that everyone was likely related one way or the other...been there for about 300 years. My mom joined the Navy and met a guy from Illinois also in the Navy. Thank God. Seriously, a couple of my cousins have epilepsy.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
21. No lie. My professor in College stopped doing human genetic studies when he taught at WVU.
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 04:54 PM
Sep 2022

The results were very disturbing to the students. He was at UCONN, western campus when I had him one summer and told us this.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
46. I watched it several times and I laugh everytime...the first time, I almost spit coffee on my
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 05:34 PM
Sep 2022

keyboard...

Bo Zarts

(26,361 posts)
35. This message was approved by Dr. Oz, and ..
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 05:22 PM
Sep 2022

.. Sen. Lindsey Graham R-SC (near the Chattooga River, Deliverance, Banjo Music).

Warpy

(114,615 posts)
36. Genetically speaking, he was mostly right
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 05:22 PM
Sep 2022

although I'd suggest genetic counseling to make sure there were no ticking time bombs.

But ew.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
42. Oh my God. That is laughing out loud funny.
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 05:32 PM
Sep 2022

Fetterman's got the best social media people ever.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
67. So were my great-grandparents...first cousins on my Mom's side. Were they first or second
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 06:11 PM
Sep 2022

cousins?

OneCrazyDiamond

(2,068 posts)
133. I am related to the Roosevelts.
Sun Sep 11, 2022, 03:29 PM
Sep 2022

Ive been known to crack jokes about imbreeders in the Fam... Mom hates the jokes.

SunSeeker

(58,283 posts)
59. Well, Oz has sewn up the Whittakers' votes! Unfortunately for him, they're in West Virginia.
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 05:47 PM
Sep 2022

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
73. That could be... I hear aliens from 'Largo' are very concerning and may have nuclear secrets...hehe
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 06:31 PM
Sep 2022

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
118. Aliens from "Largo" prefer daddy/daughter rather than cousins.
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 11:55 PM
Sep 2022

Aliens from "Largo" prefer daddy/daughter rather than cousins.

peggysue2

(12,533 posts)
71. LOL!!
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 06:21 PM
Sep 2022

Fetterman's team knows how to punch back yet still not get nasty. The humor factor is a powerful, effective tool.

The recent story about the dog (puppy) experimentation lab is downright sickening. Romney caught all manner of hell for the vacation story about lashing the family dog to the top of his station wagon.

This, however, is 1000x worse by underscoring a core cruelty factor, a lack of sensitivity regarding other living creatures in a mad pursuit of product and profit.

That is really going to turn voters off bc if we have one thing in common? Americans love their pets.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
77. Fetterman's team is amazing...they turn punching back into an art form.
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 06:36 PM
Sep 2022

The puppy story is horrific...nothing funny about that and I expect Fetterman ET AL will treat it seriously.

trof

(54,274 posts)
75. My wife's maternal grandparents were 1st cousins.
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 06:32 PM
Sep 2022

Cajuns in the hinterlands of Louisiana.
Late 1800s.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
81. Not surprising given my family. My great-aunt Mary used to say she was born a 'Jones' and married a
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 06:49 PM
Sep 2022

a 'Jones' (not real name in case relatives may be here!). I have no idea what the relationship was. She also took pics of family members in their coffins and asked you if they looked life-like. Her parents were also first cousins. The offspring were all healthy though.

trof

(54,274 posts)
139. I had a great aunt Mary too.
Tue Sep 13, 2022, 06:22 PM
Sep 2022

Her husband's name was Pleasant Argalius Hickman.
He would fire his 'horse pistol' on Christmas mornings in celebration.

It was said that he was 'a drinkin' man' who sometimes got the DTs (Delirium Tremens) and 'saw' red, white, and blue turkeys running in the house.
This would have been in the early 1900s.

Blue_playwright

(1,620 posts)
76. Ok. This is funny but...
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 06:35 PM
Sep 2022

Isn’t it out of context and he was talking about birth defects between distant family members marrying?

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
78. No, the question was about a cousin who called into Charlemanges show and asked how bad it was
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 06:45 PM
Sep 2022

keep having sex with another cousin...it was extremely creepy and when you add in the part about his daughter, it is awful. This was a radio show...a comedy.

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,471 posts)
79. Should have ended it with btw odious OZ..incest/rape is a fucking crime!
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 06:46 PM
Sep 2022
and he's an educated professional, a "doctor?" Honestly has someone vetted his credentials bc he's a fucking moron!

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
82. Yeah, we didn't even talk about that. In many states incest is illegal. He is a maroon.
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 06:51 PM
Sep 2022

He was not vetted well clearly.

malthaussen

(18,567 posts)
80. Very cute, but for Oz's constituents, that's a feature, not a bug.
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 06:48 PM
Sep 2022

I suppose I should be offended, two of my ancestors were first cousins.

-- Mal

Rhiannon12866

(255,525 posts)
86. This was Stephen Colbert's Opening on Thursday:
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 07:07 PM
Sep 2022
OKCousin: Dr. Oz's New Family Dating App



Find true love closer than you ever imagined it.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
89. Thanks...that was funny! I hadn't had that channel for a while but got sling for the election...
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 07:12 PM
Sep 2022

so I will put the show in my DVR...

Rhiannon12866

(255,525 posts)
90. He's terrific at keeping up with the news, not to mention the needed comedy
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 07:17 PM
Sep 2022

And his Openings are usually spot on!

Rhiannon12866

(255,525 posts)
93. Well, I've been posting his monologue and opening for a few years now, and any political guests
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 07:24 PM
Sep 2022

Since I know that many DUers don't stay up as late as I do - and many don't have cable, or even TV...

Rhiannon12866

(255,525 posts)
99. He just came back this week (they all did) so he's really been on a roll, catching up on all the news
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 08:27 PM
Sep 2022



Stephen Colbert - Monologue and Opening - 9/6/22 - Season Premiere
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017765142


Stephen Colbert - Monologue and Opening - 9/7/22
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017765434


Stephen Colbert - Monologue and Opening - 9/8/22
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017765723

LAS14

(15,506 posts)
98. I wish Fetterman hadn't done that.
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 08:17 PM
Sep 2022

There's nothing wrong with Oz's statement, as it stands, out of context. He has made LOTS of statements that are totally wrong. But this is just

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
100. I think it is creepy as hell. Did you read about the daughter thing?
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 08:45 PM
Sep 2022

Also, it is illegal in a number of states.

TigressDem

(5,126 posts)
109. Yes, there is.
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 10:17 PM
Sep 2022

Because it's ONLY incest if it is on the closer side of 2nd cousin.

AND usually that means an older person taking advantage of a younger relative, so yes, there is an issue with incest.


IF he said, legally and genetically you need to go to second cousin territory to avoid incest complications.

AND if he'd clarified AGE and CONSENT as factors.

BUT just saying "incest isn't bad...." is 100% stupid and wrong.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
123. Yes it is...Oz is just weird and based on the puppy thing if true and 15 minute checkups
Sun Sep 11, 2022, 12:11 AM
Sep 2022

For the undeserving uninsured ( OZ' s words), he is a monster.

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
116. Pennsylvania family values, eh, Oz?
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 11:37 PM
Sep 2022

Pennsylvania family values, eh, Oz?

------
Quick glance looks like Pillow Guy.

Upthevibe

(10,180 posts)
121. Demsrule86...............
Sun Sep 11, 2022, 12:08 AM
Sep 2022

I'm D Y I N'''''' with laughter!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for posting.....

OMG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Too, too funny.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
138. Thank you! I laughed my butt off too...and ridiculing someone (who deserves it) works everytime
Sun Sep 11, 2022, 03:39 PM
Sep 2022

in an election!

yankee87

(2,825 posts)
122. What a maroon
Sun Sep 11, 2022, 12:09 AM
Sep 2022

Can you imagine having to try to justify what he said, if you’re his spokesperson?

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