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doc03

(39,089 posts) Mon Sep 12, 2022, 04:02 PM Sep 2022

Does a president, vice president or even a Congressman

have to pass NSA investigation to get a security clearance? I have never heard of anyone not being able to get one. I can't believe that Trump could have been able to get one on his own.

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Does a president, vice president or even a Congressman (Original Post) doc03 Sep 2022 OP

IIRC Jared couldn't get clearance initially AZSkiffyGeek Sep 2022 #1

Yes that is what got me thinking does Trump even have one. doc03 Sep 2022 #2

I think Biden cancelled his complimentary daily briefings. Karadeniz Sep 2022 #3

If a president can give just anyone a clearance they doc03 Sep 2022 #4

The President, Vice President and Members of the House and Senate bottomofthehill Sep 2022 #5

A Russian spy could be elected as president, vice president or congress. A president doc03 Sep 2022 #6

With Trump as president, do you think any democrat would be cleared to run bottomofthehill Sep 2022 #7

POTUS is master of all classification... why would he/she need clearance? WarGamer Sep 2022 #8

How can someone be a master of all classification if they wouldn't be unable to doc03 Sep 2022 #9

It's just the structure of the thing... WarGamer Sep 2022 #10

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,744 posts)

1. IIRC Jared couldn't get clearance initially

Reply to doc03 (Original post)

Mon Sep 12, 2022, 04:09 PM

Sep 2022

TFG had to override it.

doc03

(39,089 posts)

2. Yes that is what got me thinking does Trump even have one.

Reply to AZSkiffyGeek (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 12, 2022, 04:14 PM

Sep 2022

If not how can he just override it for anyone? Obama even warned him about traitor Flynn but he still managed to get a national security advisor position!

Karadeniz

(24,746 posts)

3. I think Biden cancelled his complimentary daily briefings.

Reply to doc03 (Reply #2)

Mon Sep 12, 2022, 04:16 PM

Sep 2022

doc03

(39,089 posts)

4. If a president can give just anyone a clearance they

Reply to Karadeniz (Reply #3)

Mon Sep 12, 2022, 04:19 PM

Sep 2022

should also be able to take it away.

bottomofthehill

(9,392 posts)

5. The President, Vice President and Members of the House and Senate

Reply to doc03 (Original post)

Mon Sep 12, 2022, 07:05 PM

Sep 2022

Do not have security clearances. They have access to classified programs by virtue of their election. When they are no longer in office, they no longer have access.

doc03

(39,089 posts)

6. A Russian spy could be elected as president, vice president or congress. A president

Reply to bottomofthehill (Reply #5)

Mon Sep 12, 2022, 10:09 PM

Sep 2022

could be a Russian spy and himself clear anyone he wants to have access to Top Secret documents. That is f---g
insane. I had to get a clearance to work at the phone company 50 years ago.

bottomofthehill

(9,392 posts)

7. With Trump as president, do you think any democrat would be cleared to run

Reply to doc03 (Original post)

Mon Sep 12, 2022, 10:22 PM

Sep 2022

WarGamer

(18,620 posts)

8. POTUS is master of all classification... why would he/she need clearance?

Reply to doc03 (Original post)

Mon Sep 12, 2022, 10:23 PM

Sep 2022

doc03

(39,089 posts)

9. How can someone be a master of all classification if they wouldn't be unable to

Reply to WarGamer (Reply #8)

Mon Sep 12, 2022, 10:33 PM

Sep 2022

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get a clearance them self. I doubt Trump could have passed an NSA security check, his SIL couldn't.
We could elect Manafort that worked for Putin president he was a convicted criminal but Trump pardoned him.

WarGamer

(18,620 posts)

10. It's just the structure of the thing...

Reply to doc03 (Reply #9)

Mon Sep 12, 2022, 11:14 PM

Sep 2022

Presidential powers are... awesome.

And the extent and reach of those powers have never been defined by the Courts.

I think that will soon change.

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