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"U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) will lead Senate Republicans in a push to pass a nationwide ban on abortion in a press conference Tuesday, less than two months before the November midterms, according to multiple reports.
Despite wording in an apparent press release calling it a "late-term" abortion ban, The Washington Post's Caroline Kitchener says it is expected to call for a ban on all abortions at or after 15 weeks.
"Tomorrow, Susan B. Anthony Pro-Life America President Marjorie Dannenfelser, and pro-life women leaders will join Senator Lindsey Graham(R-SC) at a press conference at the U.S. Capitol for the introduction of the Protecting Pain-Capable Unborn Children from Late-Term Abortions Act," the press release from Susan B. Anthony Pro-Life America reads.
The move to impose a nationwide abortion ban barely into the second trimester comes less than three months after the U.S. Supreme Court struck down Roe v. Wade, the nearly 50-year old landmark decision that said there is a constitutional right to abortion. Justices and Republicans insisted it was a states' rights issue, but with this push to ban abortion before some women even know they're pregnant it's clear the states' rights claim was a smokescreen.
Politico's Alice Miranda Ollstein also reported on the expected announcement by Sen. Graham.
The Supreme Court's decision in the Dobbs case, rescinding the civil right to abortion, and the Democrats' promise to make the right to abortion a federal law, along with President Biden's historic legislative successes, have moved projected control of the Senate back to the Democrats."
https://www.rawstory.com/nationwide-abortion-ban/
Hermit-The-Prog
(36,631 posts)
JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)crickets
(26,168 posts)Stuart G
(38,726 posts)Response to crickets (Reply #5)
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dalton99a
(92,846 posts)sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)SoCalDavidS
(10,599 posts)A. They obviously are clueless as to how the Senate works, and the chances of this bill going anywhere.
B. They obviously are clueless as to the fact this will actually decrease their chances of taking back the Senate, meaning at least 2 more years in the minority.
intheflow
(30,080 posts)They know it's incredibly unpopular, so much so that they may end up losing both houses. But it riles up the base and keeps the party line going: "See? We could live in paradise if it weren't for the libtards! (And women, and Black people, and Asian people, and brown people, and children post-birth, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.)"
czarjak
(13,515 posts)Wounded Bear
(63,986 posts)heckles65
(631 posts)"the Supreme Court just returned the issue to the States like the Founders intended?"
That's okay, I didn't believe them for a moment either. 😒
Volaris
(11,506 posts)Deuxcents
(26,044 posts)They dont have the votes and the voters wont approve of it w/ their votes. Meanwhile..no plans or ideas about our infrastructure, health issues, climate challenges.. you know, things that matter in the 21st century
qazplm135
(7,654 posts)this strikes me as a Hail Mary attempt to get their side fired up again.
Come out and vote for us and we will ban abortion everywhere!
PlanetBev
(4,403 posts)Just follow Graham the Lemming right over the cliff.
Nay
(12,051 posts)However, I do have a glimmer of hope that they have indeed committed suicide this time.
Hermit-The-Prog
(36,631 posts)
Roe, Roe, Roe your vote
against theocracy!
Republicans revoke your rights
and kill democracy!
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kysrsoze
(6,420 posts)AwakeAtLast
(14,315 posts)Takket
(23,558 posts)Why in the world would they unveil a WILDLY unpopular bill with no chance of passage in a blue congress?
All across the country their candidates are trying to run and hide from this issue which is bad enough for them and now congressional rethugs are taking away even the states should decide argument from them???
They are undermining their own candidates and it makes no sense to me! Wtf are they doing???
Nay
(12,051 posts)hope that Maya Angelou's statement ("When people show you who they are, believe them" ) finally will ring loudly in the heads of every woman in the country.
moose65
(3,445 posts)They are preaching to their crazy choir, but they are going to drive all the sane people straight to the Democrats.
Please proceed!
maxrandb
(17,285 posts)This is "catapulting the bullshit" and "flooding the zone with bullshit", well...BULLSHIT! That's all it is.
Believe it, or not, this is their attempt to appear "reasonable" or "moderate".
This will allow them to say; "see, we don't hate women, this gives them 15 weeks to make their 'choice'".
They can see the tea leaves. They were hoping their corruptly stacked court of Nazi, Christofascist fucksticks would wait until after the midterms to show their asses, but Alito and the other 5 asspickles jumped the shark.
This is their attempt to allow their candidates to run away from Dobbs by saying; "see, abortion would be allowed up to 15 weeks". Isn't that "reasonable".
Nevermind that this bill would never pass the House, probably wouldn't even get a hearing in the Senate, and sure as hell wouldn't satisfy their base.
It's BULLSHIT
and if you doubt that it's bullshit, you will truly know it's bullshit when you see the media hounding the Democrats about why they won't support this "very reasonable" proposal from the fascists.
Suppose some bully in the playground stole your lunch. If the bully tried to give you back half of your sandwich, he'd claim he was being "reasonable".
This is nothing more than a bully trying to appear "moderate" by offering you half of your sandwich back.
Volaris
(11,506 posts)'Because it comes from FASCISTS.'
'Blank stare...crickets ....'
'No other questions? Thanks for having me on, have a great nite.'
That 5 word answer will INSTANTLY break the brains of the 'balanced media'.
It's what needs to be THE default answer for the next 6 weeks or so.
irisblue
(37,064 posts)HooBoy
Emile
(41,413 posts)for them to win. This is not a winning issue for them and they know it.
Kaleva
(40,284 posts)All? A few?
lark
(25,961 posts)Guess they have already decided that SCOTUS will make State Legislatures primary in determining who wins or loses is sewn up for the right wing so they have nothing to lose? Otherwise - this is a really stupid move on his part.
Texin
(2,838 posts)Last edited Tue Sep 13, 2022, 10:36 AM - Edit history (1)
why on Earth are they doubling down on this? What the actual chicken fried fuck are they thinking? What's is this in purpose of? Is this to please their fat, old white bread boys? I just don't get it. I mean, if women only represented about a quarter to a third of the US population, I might could wrap my head around this, but the last I looked women actually outnumber men in this country and most of us right now are in full beatdown outrage over this so-called decision that strips women and girls of their personal autonomy of our own bodies.
moose65
(3,445 posts)That is a great line: what the actual chicken fried fuck?? Love it.
Texin
(2,838 posts)his originally, or he he himself heard it somewhere else.
leftyladyfrommo
(19,965 posts)Elessar Zappa
(16,385 posts)You have no idea whats coming in November.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(133,945 posts)And quit sniffing each other's farts.
Oh fuck it. I'm having fun watching them self-destruct.
kimbutgar
(26,996 posts)November.
And why the F does a gay man care about a womans right to choose?
EgullIsCU
(14 posts)It is brazenly obvious that Repugs are terrified of women. Apparently, it is their belief that women will not continue to accept the male domination of of the fairer sex and will increasingly vote for democratic freedom in future elections. Thus, if Repugs can find a way to take away a woman's right to vote, they will always be in the majority. What better way to accomplish this goal than to take away this right than make abortion and any form of birth control crimes. Conviction to result in imprisonment and loss of the right to vote.
Anti-abortion was never about saving lives. It was always about power and money for right-wing religions and was eagerly adopted by right-wing politicians as a fool-proof way to dominate the female population and limit women's rights.
At the moment, women have their future and their lives in their own hands; hands that will record their vote against any Repug/right-wing candidate.
Use it or lose it!
There will always be traitors to any worthy cause. In this case it will be the women who believe they will be the exception to the coming purge. Those brainwashed by religion and their fathers, those who capitalize financially, those who are drunk with power over their sisters, those who are dominated by their male partners and those who are bitter against other women who live a happier, more fulfilled life, all come to mind. Most are now useful idiots to the Repugs and their christo-fasciest allies. When they are no longer useful they will still be idiots. Idiots without rights.
The Christo-fascists love the thought of keeping the old male heads of church in power. Think of all the money they can siphon into their own pockets. Think of the unlimited power over the population. Whatever religious fantasies they indulge in will become law. To them women have always been the temptation and cause of evil in the world. Perhaps this is the belief in the fairy tale of the Garden of Eden.
Remember that a human has always had his hand in the world's religious texts. The King James version of the bible is not named that without reason.
If right-wing politics and right-wing religion can prevail in the next election, think of all the atrocities that women will possibly suffer. Rape, honor killings, underage marriages, forced marriages, sexual abuse and physical abuse are but a few of the possibilities. Women will become property of the males in their lives.
Use it or lose it!
BTW, I am an old, white, Southern male. I have had my confrontations with women. Won some; lost some. In spite of that we are all different but equal human beings.
LetMyPeopleVote
(176,791 posts)Stuart G
(38,726 posts)but .........".NOT THAT STUPID."................................................................................................
ONLY SOMEONE TOTALLY NARCISSISTIC AND TOTALLY "STUPID WOULD PROPOSE THIS..
LINDSEY HAS BEEN THROUGH TOO MUCH TO BE THIS STUPID. But there is one other that
is this stupid and narcissistic .........(.and it ain't me).............................................................
Also: Lindsey Graham knows something about ..."Elections" and the "stupid one knows little..
about little............................................................................................................................
.......................................................(Lindsey has been in many "ELECTIONS) the stupid one very few,
.......................................................(and the stupid one thinks he can control "EVERYTHING"..........
..............................................(Lindsey knows better through experience).........................
