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Nevilledog

(55,078 posts)
Wed Sep 14, 2022, 04:04 PM Sep 2022

He Called 911 Because His Car Was Stuck. The Cops Killed Him.



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1/ Christian Glass, 22, called 911 to get help pushing his stuck SUV. But over the course of the next hour, officers threatened him, tased him, shot him with bean bags, and finally shot and killed him.

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He Called 911 Because His Car Was Stuck. The Cops Killed Him.
Police originally said that the 22-year-old man was shot and killed while attempting to stab officers. New body camera footage seems to show otherwise.
12:59 PM · Sep 14, 2022


https://www.vice.com/en/article/epzadj/christian-glass-shooting-clear-creek-county-colorado

Body-camera footage shows Colorado police shot and killed a young man who had called 911 for help after getting his car stuck on a dirt road, despite him never leaving his vehicle's driver seat.

Christian Glass, 22, was killed on June 1 by a Clear Creek County Sheriff’s Office deputy during a mental health crisis, his parents said. He had called 911 after getting his SUV stuck and was hoping for assistance getting it pushed out. But over the course of the next hour, the responding officers threatened him, tased him, shot him with beanbags, and finally shot and killed him.

Glass’ family has retained lawyers to help fight for justice for their son. The lawyers, Siddhartha Rathod and Qusair Mohamedbhai, provided VICE News with several angles of the body-camera footage showing the shooting and a statement saying, “from beginning to end, the officers escalated and proactively initiated force.”

“There was no need to threaten him with force; to draw guns; to break his car window; to fire beanbag rounds from a close distance; to tase him; to shoot him dead,” the lawyers wrote. “From beginning to end, the officers on the scene acted unconscionably and inhumanely.”

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He Called 911 Because His Car Was Stuck. The Cops Killed Him. (Original Post) Nevilledog Sep 2022 OP
Unreformable. Abolish it all. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2022 #1
He was trying to stab the officers jimfields33 Sep 2022 #17
Said the cops, who made every wrong decision from the moment they showed up. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2022 #18
and yet, the same paragraph ends "body-camera footage seems to show otherwise" muriel_volestrangler Sep 2022 #19
That Is not what the video shows whopis01 Sep 2022 #26
THUGS Hekate Sep 2022 #2
K&R for exposure Blue Owl Sep 2022 #3
It doesn't make sense until VMA131Marine Sep 2022 #4
And to protect themselves. Think Uvalde. Nevilledog Sep 2022 #7
Becsuse not all Cops in other countries are armed. They have to be in the US JI7 Sep 2022 #25
Not as many as you might think. Straw Man Sep 2022 #39
More details: gldstwmn Sep 2022 #5
And in the shooting of Chris Kaba in London, the officer involved has been suspended GoneOffShore Sep 2022 #40
it's what police do nt msongs Sep 2022 #6
Reminds me a lot of Elijah McClain exboyfil Sep 2022 #8
I counted inthewind21 Sep 2022 #9
This story makes me sick. SharonClark Sep 2022 #10
We need to get murderous thugs out of the blue gang, nationwide. Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2022 #11
Those that actually fired the deadly shots, deserve the same outcome as their victim. Deuce Sep 2022 #12
The police clearly provide no service to society. joshcryer Sep 2022 #13
He had a very small pen knife and he was locked in his car. Laffy Kat Sep 2022 #14
I've seen enough. Will not kacekwl Sep 2022 #15
... Faux pas Sep 2022 #16
A former DA told me... Xolodno Sep 2022 #20
cops were so 'brave'. pansypoo53219 Sep 2022 #21
We need mental ambulances Corgigal Sep 2022 #22
We Have This RobinA Sep 2022 #29
Shoot first, ask questions later. sakabatou Sep 2022 #23
Being someone with autism, I'm terrified the police will do the same to me. Oneironaut Sep 2022 #24
He'd still be alive if some tow truck driver... Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2022 #27
Chartered Crime Syndicate. Voltaire2 Sep 2022 #28
The cop who fired the killing shots... Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2022 #30
They no longer have qualified immunity gldstwmn Sep 2022 #31
Fantastic! Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2022 #32
He can tell it to the judge. He seems like a real Rhodes Scholar. gldstwmn Sep 2022 #35
I wrote my assemblyman (in CA) tishaLA Sep 2022 #34
The only solace I take tishaLA Sep 2022 #33
Well looky here: gldstwmn Sep 2022 #36
I'm not surprised either! Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2022 #37
Buen didn't get into policing so that he could serve the community. gldstwmn Sep 2022 #42
Mom's statement Nevilledog Sep 2022 #38
Truth! Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2022 #41
Her lawyers are the same ones representing Johnny Hurley's mother. gldstwmn Sep 2022 #43
That's good to know! Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2022 #44

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,953 posts)
18. Said the cops, who made every wrong decision from the moment they showed up.
Wed Sep 14, 2022, 05:19 PM
Sep 2022

And we all know cops NEVER lie.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,201 posts)
19. and yet, the same paragraph ends "body-camera footage seems to show otherwise"
Wed Sep 14, 2022, 05:43 PM
Sep 2022
Just over an hour into the situation, the officers on the scene decided to breach the vehicle, and one of the commanding officers there told Glass it “was time for the night to move on.” The officers smashed the glass on the passenger-side window. Glass picked up one of his knives as the police upped their aggression and several officers, including one standing on the hood of the car, trained their weapons on him. Through the passenger-side window, Glass was shot with a beanbag gun several times and began to flail in the SUV.

“Someone tase his ass,” an officer is heard saying in the video. “Someone tase him!” An officer shoots Glass with a taser through the passenger window and the young man begins to scream and shake while holding the knife. One officer tells Glass he “can still save himself” if he drops the knife. Glass begins to yell “Lord, hear me.” As he flails around in the seat once more, an officer fires his handgun five times.

He was clearly mentally disturbed, but presented a threat to no-one else, and probably not to himself. The police escalated the violence, and expected him to be able to think "oh, they've hurt me enough now, I better drop the knife" when they could see he was unable to think straight. Gross incompetence at the very least.

whopis01

(3,919 posts)
26. That Is not what the video shows
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 05:30 AM
Sep 2022

He is in his car in the driver’s seat, flailing around while being tased when he is shot. No officer is within reach of him.

You can hear the distinctive clicking of the taser start for the second time as he begins to move erratically when they shoot him.

VMA131Marine

(5,269 posts)
4. It doesn't make sense until
Wed Sep 14, 2022, 04:16 PM
Sep 2022

you realise the purpose of police in this society is to protect the wealthy and people with power. In no other country on earth do police kill as many people as in the US and it’s not even close.

JI7

(93,615 posts)
25. Becsuse not all Cops in other countries are armed. They have to be in the US
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 12:25 AM
Sep 2022

becsuse of lack of gun restrictions.

Straw Man

(6,946 posts)
39. Not as many as you might think.
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 02:43 AM
Sep 2022
Becsuse not all Cops in other countries are armed. They have to be in the US

becsuse of lack of gun restrictions.

Four in Europe, eighteen worldwide:
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-where-police-do-not-carry-guns.html

Japan has one of the lowest rates of civilian gun ownership in the world, yet their police carry guns.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
5. More details:
Wed Sep 14, 2022, 04:20 PM
Sep 2022

An autopsy showed that Glass “died as the result of multiple gunshot wounds,” including five in his torso. “The manner of death, in my opinion, is homicide,” the pathologist wrote.

Glass’ mother, Sally Glass, said her son was “petrified” and “paralyzed” by fear the night he was killed.

“I have a hole in my heart, and it will be there until the day I die,” she said.

The family’s attorney, Siddhartha Rathod of the Denver-based Rathod Mohamedbhi, said that Glass was clearly in a crisis.

Christian was experiencing a crisis, and he called 911 for help,” said Rathod, “and yet these officers busted out Christian’s window, shot him six times with beanbag rounds, tased him multiple times from two Tasers, and then shot him five times.”

https://nypost.com/2022/09/14/video-shows-colorado-man-shot-dead-by-cops-after-car-crash/

GoneOffShore

(18,020 posts)
40. And in the shooting of Chris Kaba in London, the officer involved has been suspended
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 03:13 AM
Sep 2022

and possible homicide charges could be in his future.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/sep/12/met-officer-who-shot-chris-kaba-suspended-from-frontline-duties

Hundreds marched on parliament on Saturday demanding justice for Kaba, who was a drill rapper from south London.

Deborah Coles, executive director at the charity Inquest, which has been working alongside Kaba’s family and legal team, called on the new Met commissioner to act quickly, saying: “One of Mark Rowley’s first priorities should be to ensure that the officer who shot Chris Kaba has no contact with the public until the criminal investigation into his or her behaviour has concluded.”

She added: “The new commissioner should be in no doubt about the strength of feeling about this shooting. This is not an isolated case, but one of a shamefully long pattern of deaths of black men who have died following the use of lethal force. There is an endemic culture of delay, denial and defensiveness after state-related deaths.”

The mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, welcomed Monday’s decision. “My thoughts remain with Chris Kaba’s loved ones at this intensely difficult time as the IOPC continue their independent homicide investigation,” he said.

exboyfil

(18,359 posts)
8. Reminds me a lot of Elijah McClain
Wed Sep 14, 2022, 04:36 PM
Sep 2022

Colorado cops again.

Why didn't they take him up on the offer to throw out the "weapons". Wait I think I know the answer to that.


Unfortunately cops have an absolute right to order you out of your vehicle for any reason. Refusal gives them the opportunity to go hands on. You have the Republican Supreme Court to thank for that decision.

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
9. I counted
Wed Sep 14, 2022, 04:37 PM
Sep 2022

At least 5 cops. They all completely freaked out over a guy LOCKED INSIDE OF A CAR. W.T.A.F!

SharonClark

(10,497 posts)
10. This story makes me sick.
Wed Sep 14, 2022, 04:37 PM
Sep 2022

There are no excuses that could justify the cops’ actions. I hope the cops are prosecuted and put away for life and the family sues and wins millions of dollars.

joshcryer

(62,536 posts)
13. The police clearly provide no service to society.
Wed Sep 14, 2022, 04:47 PM
Sep 2022

Get rid of them in their entirety.

This entire situation is resolved simply and easily by pushing him back on to the road. It would take a matter of two minutes and he would be on his way.

Instead they created a deadly situation from out of thin air.

Laffy Kat

(16,951 posts)
14. He had a very small pen knife and he was locked in his car.
Wed Sep 14, 2022, 04:59 PM
Sep 2022

Yet somehow the cops thought it wisest to kill him. It's just one effing murder after another and for what?

kacekwl

(9,144 posts)
15. I've seen enough. Will not
Wed Sep 14, 2022, 05:03 PM
Sep 2022

watch them kill this kid. Not one person there proficient in their job. The state police were correct but obviously these criminal police knew it would be better to escalate the situation so they could kill him in cold blood. Anyone there who participated in this should be in jail for 1st degree murder.

Xolodno

(7,349 posts)
20. A former DA told me...
Wed Sep 14, 2022, 07:26 PM
Sep 2022

...the police have one primary job. Arrest you, that's it. You don't comply, they shoot you. They get a grand total of two weeks training on law, which is nowhere near enough.

Corgigal

(9,298 posts)
22. We need mental ambulances
Wed Sep 14, 2022, 10:45 PM
Sep 2022

teams throughout this country.

Might cost everyone some money, doubt the rich will want to pay. This way untrained cops can call the trained meds in the field, driving their own ambulance to the scene. I have no idea why we’re not doing this. We did it for awhile in Tampa Florida in the 1990s, but I’m unsure they have this response anymore. Worked for us,

Would save life, and taxpayers money. It’s not like we’re not aware what works, I guess most areas just don’t care.

RobinA

(10,478 posts)
29. We Have This
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 08:55 AM
Sep 2022

in my county in PA. Manned by mental health workers, not law enforcement. In addition, as I worked in mental health in the community I ran into police who were quite well trained in handling mental health incidents. AND, many who were not. It is possible, but deescalating in mental health is pretty much the complete opposite of the way police are trained to deal with the average criminal, so they have to want to learn and it takes a bit of maturity.

Oneironaut

(6,299 posts)
24. Being someone with autism, I'm terrified the police will do the same to me.
Wed Sep 14, 2022, 10:58 PM
Sep 2022

I cannot guarantee rational behavior in a stressful situation.

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,526 posts)
27. He'd still be alive if some tow truck driver...
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 05:51 AM
Sep 2022

... had showed up instead.

The "weapons" (geology tools) wouldn't have even scared the tow truck driver, most likely. He might say something rude like, "Boy, you done messed up your suspension but good!", but the young man would still be alive today.

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,526 posts)
30. The cop who fired the killing shots...
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 07:44 PM
Sep 2022

... was the same officer who was the first to point his gun at the young man after a knife was seen in his lap, repeatedly mentioned "cross fire" concerns to other officers (indicating that shooting the young man was also in his thoughts repeatedly) even early in the encounter, busted out the front passenger window, fired the beanbags, fired the taser... and ultimately fired several bullets into the murder victim.

Then he tried to justify the shooting by claiming that the victim lunged at police officer "Williams" with a knife. Williams was the older officer on the driver's side of the car, who had previously tried to keep the victim calm, and both windows on the driver's side were still rolled up when the killer-cop tried to excuse his deadly actions in regard to the knife. The victim never left the driver's seat or opened the vehicle at all!

70+ minutes of body cam video from the murderer himself:

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
31. They no longer have qualified immunity
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 08:23 PM
Sep 2022

here in CO thanks to our progressive, Democratic governor and legislature. You can bet there will be charges.
If only Clear Creek County had mental health responders like my local police department does. This is an absolute tragedy.

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,526 posts)
32. Fantastic!
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 09:04 PM
Sep 2022


Among all of them, it was the cop who fired the shots who needs to spend time in prison!

His name is Deputy Andrew Benjamin Buen, from Arvada CO. 29 years old, received his law enforcement academy certificate (without honors) in Fall 2020 from Red Rocks Community College: https://www.rrcc.edu/sites/default/files/Commencement_2021.pdf

Pictures of him posted at UK's Daily Mail:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11212681/Colorado-sheriffs-deputy-29-whos-accused-shooting-man-22-dead-called-911-help.html

His Twitter page showed him retweeting in 2013: "Never trust anybody because anybody can fuck you over."
https://twitter.com/andrew_buen8/with_replies

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
35. He can tell it to the judge. He seems like a real Rhodes Scholar.
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 02:20 PM
Sep 2022

On edit, according to the Daily Mail this guy is still on patrol. WTH?

tishaLA

(14,775 posts)
34. I wrote my assemblyman (in CA)
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 09:43 PM
Sep 2022

Immediately after that happened in CO and said "repeat this here, please." My assemblyman is a good progressive so I assume they've been working on some similar reforms, but cops and sheriff's wield way too much power in CA and sentiment against progressive DAs in SF and LA might have made them skittish.

tishaLA

(14,775 posts)
33. The only solace I take
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 09:38 PM
Sep 2022

Is that CO passed aggressive laws regarding inept policing a couple years ago and the cops might pay an actual penalty for this.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
36. Well looky here:
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 10:38 PM
Sep 2022

?s=20&t=niY_WJLGDcRbN3jPypimig

I knew I was getting a never should have had a badge and gun vibe from Officer Buen.

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,526 posts)
37. I'm not surprised either!
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 01:16 AM
Sep 2022

If you watch Buen's 70+ minute body cam video of the encounter with Glass, which I shared earlier in this thread, I think he was involved in every threatening action or decision that was made that night!

I believe he's the same guy who suggested another cop stand on the vehicle's hood too.

Why they often seemed to defer to Buen, who completed community college police training less than two years ago, is beyond me! Even the older gray-haired cop that they called "Chief", who was very calm and comforting with Glass, seemed too prone to Buen's suggestion to break the passenger-side window. The older cop seemed hesitant, like he wanted to think about it some more, but then Deputy Buen volunteered to break the glass himself! Of course!

Someone like Buen should NEVER be a police officer anywhere, and he deserves prison-time!

If Glass had EVER exited the vehicle with the knife, I'd still be saddened if he was shot to death, but I'd probably also think he posed a danger at that point. Even if he ran away from the cops with the knife, the shooting might still be justified because he could possibly stab a stranger in his disturbed mental state. But for crying out loud, he never left the driver's seat! Of a completely immobilized vehicle that was apparently out of gas too! (Per the words of the "Chief" as he was talking to Glass.)

The dispatcher seemed like a sweetheart, but it also would've helped if she had explained to the cops that Glass was terrified of "skin walkers" in that area and he didn't want to leave the vehicle for that reason.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
42. Buen didn't get into policing so that he could serve the community.
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 04:11 PM
Sep 2022

He earned the gentleman's C's so he could tell people what to do. Christian Glass's mother was right. He's a bully.
It's not enough to just get rid of the qualified immunity. These killer cops need to be prosecuted.
Now today I'm reading that Denver Police mismanaged taxpayer money meant for mental health support. I don't know. Maybe we should just burn the whole thing to the ground and start over again at this point.

Denver Police mismanaged taxpayer money meant for mental health support
According to city audit report, DPD and the Department of Public Safety paid a nonprofit late, misspent some of the money and failed to spend the rest in time. The Department of Public Safety says the report doesn’t take into account challenges brought by the pandemic and understaffing.

https://denverite.com/2022/09/15/denver-police-mismanaged-taxpayer-money-meant-for-mental-health-support/

Nevilledog

(55,078 posts)
38. Mom's statement
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 01:27 AM
Sep 2022


Tweet text:

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This is Sally Glass whose 22-year-old son Christian Glass was executed by police in Colorado after his car got stuck on a dirt road and he called 911 for their help.

Take 3 minutes and listen to her words.


Watch on Twitter
7:48 PM · Sep 16, 2022

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
43. Her lawyers are the same ones representing Johnny Hurley's mother.
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 04:18 PM
Sep 2022

She finally decided to sue them after finding out they withheld information from her. She initially asked for calm after his murder. I wonder if she regrets that now. In that case it took them almost a year to even release the cop's name. By then he was securely ensconced elsewhere in another job and location. The DA investigated the cops and decided not to bring charges.
I think they are in good hands. I'm sure both of them would rather have their kids alive.

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,526 posts)
44. That's good to know!
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 05:24 PM
Sep 2022

I HOPE the lawyers keep it simple. Pursue Buen primarily. If they get a criminal conviction of him, which SHOULD happen because that guy committed murder without any real justification at all, then they can spread the net even wider if they want.

Don't go to trial with this kind of attitude toward their entire police force:

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