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kentuck

(115,406 posts)
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 08:24 AM Sep 2022

The "stolen documents" case is going to the Supreme Court eventually.

And I do not have a lot of confidence in our Justice system. There are Justices on the Court that are more loyal to the Trump cult than to the Constitution. It is a possibility they would vote with the Judge in Florida, putting our national security at risk and disregarding our Constitution.

I am not certain they would follow the rule of law and vote against the criminal mobster that stole our national secrets and attempted to overthrow our government. The Justice system has been corrupted. We just do not know how much?

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The "stolen documents" case is going to the Supreme Court eventually. (Original Post) kentuck Sep 2022 OP
I think it's headed there too underpants Sep 2022 #1
I think the strategy is to delay and to get it to the Supreme Court. kentuck Sep 2022 #2
It's never a good strategy, gab13by13 Sep 2022 #4
May as well allow Trump to keep the documents, gab13by13 Sep 2022 #3
In my opinion... kentuck Sep 2022 #5
The SC already ruled that it is the sitting president gab13by13 Sep 2022 #6
Yes, that is the present law... kentuck Sep 2022 #7
Agreed Arazi Sep 2022 #8
scotus may not be much help to tfg here.... getagrip_already Sep 2022 #9
I have no confidence in the courts. Not anymore. sinkingfeeling Sep 2022 #10
I have full confidence in the courts protecting a zygote... Hugin Sep 2022 #20
I know 100% that Alito and Thomas will vote to end our democracy. lark Sep 2022 #11
Huh. It took days to arrest Reality Winner. Scrivener7 Sep 2022 #12
I am sad to say that is my assessment as well... Hugin Sep 2022 #21
The fascists in black robes are salivating at the prospect dalton99a Sep 2022 #13
Honestly, at this point, I expect them to Bettie Sep 2022 #14
Call me crazy, but I think the recent blowback will affect them. tinrobot Sep 2022 #15
I see it the same way. Just A Box Of Rain Sep 2022 #16
If the election goes badly for the Republicans ThoughtCriminal Sep 2022 #17
Agree with you. And about "eventually", time is the enemy. PufPuf23 Sep 2022 #18
When court decisions are based on politics and not on the law Mr. Ected Sep 2022 #19

kentuck

(115,406 posts)
2. I think the strategy is to delay and to get it to the Supreme Court.
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 08:37 AM
Sep 2022

And "Trump's Justices" will save him and destroy American democracy.

gab13by13

(32,314 posts)
4. It's never a good strategy,
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 08:41 AM
Sep 2022

to wait to indict someone when the evidence is there. Trump's new lawyer is earning his 3 million.

gab13by13

(32,314 posts)
3. May as well allow Trump to keep the documents,
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 08:39 AM
Sep 2022

the FBI can't even do forensics on the documents to safeguard our national security.

kentuck

(115,406 posts)
5. In my opinion...
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 08:42 AM
Sep 2022

Joe Biden should declare that only he has "executive privilege" and take control of the classified documents, and let the Judges fight it out amongst themselves what to do about it. The law and the Constitution would be on his side, in my opinion.

gab13by13

(32,314 posts)
6. The SC already ruled that it is the sitting president
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 08:49 AM
Sep 2022

alone who decides executive privilege.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
9. scotus may not be much help to tfg here....
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 09:04 AM
Sep 2022

They have their own theories on unitary power and the powers of the potus.

I'm not sure they fit with permanent presidential powers or the right of private citizens to possess classified documents. And the thought tht a fpotus gets judicial preferance to the exclusion of all three branches of gov't probably won't sit well either.

Cannon is just stalling. I think she fully expects to get over ruled on appeal; in 2 years..

Hugin

(37,847 posts)
20. I have full confidence in the courts protecting a zygote...
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 06:00 AM
Sep 2022

Or certain members of a select group of privilege.

lark

(26,080 posts)
11. I know 100% that Alito and Thomas will vote to end our democracy.
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 10:15 AM
Sep 2022

Sadly, I think that Gorsuch, Kavarape and Handmaiden will assist in the destruction of democracy for their desired christofascist driven society while roberts dithers on the side.

Scrivener7

(59,513 posts)
12. Huh. It took days to arrest Reality Winner.
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 10:36 AM
Sep 2022

Looks like it'll be a lot longer than 2 years for tfg.

And each of these back-and-forths makes it less likely that anything will happen to him.

Hugin

(37,847 posts)
21. I am sad to say that is my assessment as well...
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 06:06 AM
Sep 2022

Despite the gadflies who keep popping in asserting they somehow have inside knowledge that we’re full of shit.

Bettie

(19,702 posts)
14. Honestly, at this point, I expect them to
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 10:40 AM
Sep 2022

start ruling that there are one set of laws for Republicans and another for Democrats, 6/3, of course.

Because for all his whining, Roberts really doesn't care about the rulings, as long as the money keeps rolling in for 'speaking engagements'. They are corrupt.

tinrobot

(12,061 posts)
15. Call me crazy, but I think the recent blowback will affect them.
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 10:46 AM
Sep 2022

After the Roe debacle, they've resorted to whining about trust in the court. They wouldn't whine if they didn't think it was true.

This case could be the perfect chance for them to regain a modicum of that trust. Or not.

I expect at least Roberts and Gorsuch to side with the DOJ.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
16. I see it the same way.
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 10:54 AM
Sep 2022

That is too narrow a "win" for the rule of law, but I think TFG will lose in the SC.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,721 posts)
17. If the election goes badly for the Republicans
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 10:40 PM
Sep 2022

They should really start to worry about an expanded court. Ruling for Trump will make the case much stronger.

PufPuf23

(9,852 posts)
18. Agree with you. And about "eventually", time is the enemy.
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 04:14 AM
Sep 2022

The USSC at present is flawed because of who is on the court and shenanigans by a rogue GOP to stack the USSC in their less than egalitarian style.

Looks to me that the answer to many problems is to get 4 or 5 of the current Justices off the court for cause. Stomp them because if they are not stomped now this mess will never end.

Mr. Ected

(9,714 posts)
19. When court decisions are based on politics and not on the law
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 04:20 AM
Sep 2022

You've already lost your democracy.

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